Did Nintendo make bad choices for newcomers?

[fogbadge]

No I'm not saying they were bad because they were obvious. I'm saying they were obviously going to include them, but they were still bad choices.

I don't see how you could have confused that, the word "but" is pretty self explanatory.

now now no need to be patronizing, you did put in the point about them being obvious with your reasons for thinking they were bad choices

but remember who's a bad choice and who's a good choice is down to personal opinion

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Keep things civil guys and the thread stays open.

But yeah, I'm cool with all of the newcomers. Rosalina was a bit of an eh to me but I grew to quickly like here. Pac-Man is really the one character I didn't want but I enjoyed his inclusion and understand as to why he was included. Greninja was a complete surprise to me but I'm very excited to see him included. The Mii Fighters are a neat idea that could have been easily ruined.

So I guess I actually like all of the newcomers this far. I have nothing bad to say about any of them as each one is unique which is important in my book.

Though despite being hyped for the Paletuna, her model just irks me. I was hoping for a more anime-esque model. This one makes her look plastic :/

 

[Capybara Gaming]

I love 'em all but Greninja and WFT. I'm pretty indifferent on those two.

 

[Aguki90]

Good, OK or Meh Choice:

Good Choice
Pac-Man- I was against the idea of Pac-Man, But Holy Waka is the most awesome Third-Party ever. Soo nostalgic, is gonna be one of my MAINS.
Megaman- Our biggest dream come true. And is very unique range fighter. Is the most range fighter of the series on my opinion.
Little Mac- He kinda deserved since the begin but Somehow Sakurai Team manage to make a really proper and unique moveset for him even being terrible in the air.
Villager- He literally is not a fighter. But Somehow is very unique moveset for him. And Im really like is silly moves

Ok Choice
Wii Fit Trainer(WTF)- Is just soo weird... Are animation are akward, are moveset is weird as Mr. Game and Watch. But This Smash Bros, I like this weird choices and that make her unique.
Palutena- But somehow the trailer don't take too much hype. But the rest is Cool with her. She in reality very very strong, she a goddess but anyway we got Mewtwo, we get Palutena. Her moveset a lot of potential.

Meh Choice:
Rosalina- Mrs.everywhere is here. I never like her addition but the only thing that save her, Is the her moveset with the Luma
Greninja- I like greninja but the Choice being a fighter is was very Random, almost as WFT. Still have uncloned Special Moves.
Mii fighters- I never like the Mii but somehow Sakurai still do a amazing jobs making a moveset fot them, in my opinion I think there gonna be worse but hey, they did it Right.

SalRomano leak characters: Shulk and Chorus kid are probably Good choice. but Chrom is MEH.

Sakurai really make a really good choice. In reality, every single character play very very unique (especially pac-man and MEH rosalina) Im impress by each one and there really not that high popular. There even retro Characters like Pac-Man, Mega Man, Little Mac and even Palutena. Is like sakurai trying to tell us "There good characters that need some attention" I really like that.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

I'm waiting for the Fire Emblem newcomer before making that call.

 

[LF2K]

Little Mac. 'nough said.

 

[Speculator]

Pity people are calling Chrom a bad choice before even seeing him in action. The stigma attached to simply holding a sword lives on, it seems.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

"Did Nintendo make bad choices for newcomers?"

 

[Zwzchow]

The thing is Sakurai puts in things that we think we don't want in the game. And then he turns it into something fantastic
like Pacman mii and WFT

He chose the pac land design AND he can go back to classic pizza shaped pacman

that guy does wonders man

 

[Zzuxon]

Rosalina was the only bad choice. She makes no sense as a Mario newcomer, and now deserving mario characters like Toad or Paper Mario will likely be passed up.
Luckily, the bitter pill of her inclusion was given the candy coating of an extremely cool moveset, making her inclusion tolerable.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Pac-Man is awesome, though.

 

[Ryan.]

No, I think they are all great choices.

 

[Oatmeal.]

Most of the characters were excellent choices. Greninja is sort of random, WFT doesn't quite fit in as well, and Pac-Man is a sin.

 

[Jerry Applesauce]

They are all excellent choices. They haven't gotten me as emotionally hyped as the newcomers announced for Brawl years ago did, but I am content with their inclusion in the game.

 

[Banjodorf]

Pity people are calling Chrom a bad choice before even seeing him in action. The stigma attached to simply holding a sword lives on, it seems.

I agree about a thousand times if not more. It's worse yet to hear people say that about Shulk, but I still pity Chrom for it. It's like people think of swords as a one-way hack and slash weapon based on it's size.

 

[Jerry Applesauce]

Chrom ain't anything Ike and Chrom already are, not to mention Marth already has Chrom's blade, the Falchion. Albeit, Chrom has the cooler-looking version, so maybe that could possibly count for something...or not.

Shulk's sword, the Monado, is at least something special and "unique."

 

[Mega Bidoof]

You realize that literally every newcomer announced is very popular, right?

Mega Man, Little Mac, Palutena, and Pac-Man were some of the most wanted characters for Smash 4 (with really only K. Rool and Ridley competing in popularity).

Villager would have been a popular choice if Sakurai didn't make that "AC is too peaceful" statement.

Rosalina and Greninja are newer, popular characters that the fans love.

Miis are an icon to Nintendo nowadays, and were a decently popular Smash 4 choice. The only issue people had with them is moveset possibilities, which Sakurai seemed to get down pretty well.

And the only questionable choice is Wii Fit Trainer, who when you think about it makes sense.
She is from a very well selling Nintendo game, and offers a really unique fighting style.


Who the hell is a bad choice out of these guys?

 

[BirthNote]

What do you guys think about these newcomers?
I think that some of them were great, but I feel like they started randomly selecting after awhile. Like they gave up or something. For instance, adding Palutena was awesome, anddd so was Rosalina and Luma (in my opinion) I'm sure a lot of people were waiting for Palutena,but then wii fit trainer? Pac man? Out of all the amazing characters they could've chosen... what about Daisy?.

This is where I started laughing. Daisy's far from amazing and in a worse position than Waluigi; if you read Sakurai's PoTD caption when he got deconfirmed you get an idea of how bad her chances are. She barely has anything to work with aside from sports games (which you can give any Mario character) and isn't even remotely important to the main Mario games; her debut game didn't make waves like the Galaxy games have either. Daisy making the roster would be very disappointing when there's at least 5 other characters who could really offer something worthwhile from this series.

Pac Man was a phenomenon back in the '80s; even my parents were playing the arcade game in their late teens, and to this day they love it and they are by no means gamers. Wii Fit Trainer is in some aspects Sakurai's troll card as he KNEW nobody even thought she'd be in, but her inclusion like the Miis embodies the Wii series games which are no doubt popular.

As the SSB series has grown its become more than a crossover fight between popular Nintendo characters. Its expanded to showcase Nintendo's history. It's not just the characters we want, it's a showcase of the franchises Nintendo has created that helped make the company what it is today in the form of a fighting/party game with special appearances from outsiders. That's why some characters are unexpected by us; he's looking at the big picture, and while I'm not too crazy about all the characters, I don't think they're disappointing.

 

[Keeshu]

Let's take a look:
Wii Fit Trainer - Nintendo kept banging on about the Wii Fit, and many people do like to use the Wii Fit. It's either Wii Fit Trainer, or the Wii Fit board. Wii Fit Trainer practicly had a moveset all set for her already, and the Wii Fit Board is basicly Assist Trophy material anyways. So I'm not too surprised about this. I just love the troll factor her character has.
Mii Fighters - Similar to the Wii Fit Trainer in the fact that Nintendo keeps banging on about them. They also have a bunch of fun games that many people love (even if the hardcore crowd can be snobbish and dismisses them). Mii Fighters also let's everyone put whoever they want into the game, and have more customization which is always a bonus. Surprised they had 3 types of Mii Fighters, but I'm glad they did, since the 3 types they chose are the common methods for characters to attack in anything.
Villager - Animal Crossing is one of the more popular Nintendo titles, so not too much of a surprise here. I haven't played Animal Crossing yet though.
Megaman - Once I heard that they will have a Capcom character, my mind went immediately to Megaman. When you think of the other popular Capcom characters, then look at Megaman, he has no competition since Megaman started out on the NES, and helped the video game industry a ton.
Pac Man - Not sure if it's the case anymore, but when I was younger, even if you've never played a video game in your life, you knew who Pac Man was. He was practicly one of the main icons of video games. He had to be in. Especially with the knowledge of the company that is helping make Pac Man.

Palutena - Kid Icarus has been getting rather popular, and it is something Sakurai is working on so not too much of a surprise here. I was only a little surprised because I wasn't sure if the new Kid Icarus was popular enough to get Palutena in the game. Even if it wasn't, it still makes it so people are even more aware of the new Kid Icarus. Besides, she's a fun trolly character.

Greninja - Off and on I would consider a X+Y pokemon, just because of how drasticly different it is compared to previous pokemon games. Also, consider that X+Y is what drew me and many other people back into the Pokemon games, and it shouldn't really be a surprise that a X+Y pokemon came in. Greninja's only real competition was Fennekin, as I never hear people talk about anything else when it comes to starters. There weren't any other pokemon that had huge star power, some got close though, like Hawlucha (though personally I don't see why people love hawlucha so much). So the fact that Greninja got in shouldnt be a surprise.

Punch Out - He was incredibly popular back in the day, it was not uncommon to hear people talking to each other about it from time to time. I'm not sure how popular his new games are but they seem to be decently popular. I'm not sure what other contenders there are for a new game series in smash are, but Punch Out definently deserved Little Mac. Though personally I loved the game, not Little Mac himself, but whatevs. He can be the cool underdog like Rocky or something.



Rosalina - Out of the whole list, Rosalina leaves me scratching my head more than anything. Sort of how Ice Climbers left my head scratching in Melee. The Ice Climbers never seemed popular, at least in the USA, as I felt like I was the only person in the world who played the game. The only major thing going for Rosalina I can think of, is that Nintendo wants to show that the Mario games really are changing and aren't the same thing all the time. However, Nintendo seems to be shoehorning her into many other Mario games now. Which makes me wonder if she's going to stick around for other major Mario titles, or if she'll only be a huge deal in the galaxy games. I am really surprised that she was added instead of Bowser Jr. as Bowser Jr. has been somewhat important, and he also represents Bowser's past fights, and the Koopalings as he's practicly a half-leader to them, while being his own special thing while representing that Nintendo has done some newer things.
I think Nintendo is toying around with Toad's identity right now (with Blue Toad and Captain Toad), so I'm not too surprised he's not in now.



Even the characters I think deserve to be in the most should not have been put in above the others. Sakurai just keeps surprising me with characters I don't usually think of.
Ridley - A.K.A. the Meta Knight for Samus, but also has story behind his rivalry.
King K Rool - I dislike K Rool and the Donkey Kong franchise but people talk about him a bunch (more than anything else in the DK games) and he was the final boss for multiple games, sadly DK's newer games seems to want to forget K Rool which does hurt his chances quite a lot. There's kremlings in Smash Run though, we'll just have to see.

Mewtwo - Personally I'm on the fence whether or not Mewtwo should be in over Greninja, but really they should be in for two different reasons and it's hard to compare. Being the focus of the first movie, and being the first big bad legendary, along with his title of being the "strongest" pokemon, along with being the final boss of several spin off games, he definently deserves a spot in the roster.




Remember, even if the character feels like it will have a boring gameplay style, a little imagination can go a long way to make that character fun. Don't judge a book by it's cover.
Example: While I figured Miis would be added, especially after hearing the customization announcement, I still figured they'd be boring. It looks like they are going to be one of the most interesting characters to play now.

 

[Dragomire]

Greninja was the only one I really liked.

 

[Bravetriforcer]

6/9 I'm fine with or really like.

Miis, Palutena, and Wii FIt Trainer leave a poor taste in my mouth for various reasons.

Myyyyeeeehhh.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

What do you guys think about these newcomers?
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I think that some of them were great, but I feel like they started randomly selecting after awhile. Like they gave up or something. For instance, adding Palutena was awesome, anddd so was Rosalina and Luma (in my opinion) I'm sure a lot of people were waiting for Palutena,but then wii fit trainer? Pac man? Out of all the amazing characters they could've chosen... what about Daisy? Has everyone forgotten about Daisy? She doesn't get enough credit. I believe they unnecessarily eliminated some good characters, like falcon. They could have kept everybody in. I want to hear everyone's opinion.

Ummm...this whole thread is just personal taste and whether or not the person is satisfied with it, not if Nintendo made the best educated and well thought out decisions on each Newcomer and what they would bring to Smash. Well, that is my theory anyway.

 

[Jerry Applesauce]

Despite me being content with the newcomer choices, there's still a part of me that doesn't want Greninja in the game. Now that I've played as him in the demo I'm not so stoked for him. The trailer was sick, but playing as him wasn't as cool. I love how he jumps up after his down aerial, but overall I wasn't too impressed with him.

 

[UltimateWario]

- Good Choices -
Massively requested, most famous for his games on the NES.
Blah blah blah Namco, importance, something, I dunno. He's Pac-Man.
Important character from an extremely popular and successful "new" franchise.
Highly popular in the West, from a fun, beloved franchise with a recent and successful reboot.

- Meh Choices -
At least he's a cool Pokemon, though the fact that he may be taking Mewtwo's spot is ********.
Secondary character from small, recently-revived franchise, her inclusion was inevitable the second Sakurai stated he was working on a new Kid Icarus. She's popular, though, which, I suppose, makes it okay. At least people wanted her. Though I hate her with a passion.
A sort of "thank you" to Wii Fit. However, nobody wanted her or cared until she was revealed, then "SAKURAI IS GOD" took over and everyone thinks she's the best thing since sliced bread now.
Certainly came out better than I expected. Honestly surprised these fellas weren't in Brawl, since that was "their time".
Chrom - His inclusion was inevitable and his game did well. From a skin-deep perspective, he's a good choice. Better choices from Awakening, though.
Shulk - Popular request from a game that few people (in the US) have played. Yet another boring anime swordsman.

-****-tier Choices-
No. Mario Galaxy wasn't so good that it deserved its own character. Mario has enough characters as-is.
Choir Men - Brought to you by "Characters Nobody Wanted". "Characters Nobody Wanted" is a trademarked property of Masahiro Sakurai and Sora LTD.

-Why the **** Would You Even Leave These Guys Out Everyone Wants Them You Piece of ****-
Ridley - Why? Seriously?
King K. Rool - No, really, tell me why, now.

 

[Sun & Moon]

- Good Choices -
Massively requested, most famous for his games on the NES.
Blah blah blah Namco, importance, something, I dunno. He's Pac-Man.
Important character from an extremely popular and successful "new" franchise.
Highly popular in the West, from a fun, beloved franchise with a recent and successful reboot.

- Meh Choices -
At least he's a cool Pokemon, though the fact that he may be taking Mewtwo's spot is ********.
Secondary character from small, recently-revived franchise, her inclusion was inevitable the second Sakurai stated he was working on a new Kid Icarus. She's popular, though, which, I suppose, makes it okay. At least people wanted her. Though I hate her with a passion.
A sort of "thank you" to Wii Fit. However, nobody wanted her or cared until she was revealed, then "SAKURAI IS GOD" took over and everyone thinks she's the best thing since sliced bread now.
Certainly came out better than I expected. Honestly surprised these fellas weren't in Brawl, since that was "their time".
Chrom - His inclusion was inevitable and his game did well. From a skin-deep perspective, he's a good choice. Better choices from Awakening, though.
Shulk - Popular request from a game that few people (in the US) have played. Yet another boring anime swordsman.

-****-tier Choices-
No. Mario Galaxy wasn't so good that it deserved its own character. Mario has enough characters as-is.
Choir Men - Brought to you by "Characters Nobody Wanted". "Characters Nobody Wanted" is a trademarked property of Masahiro Sakurai and Sora LTD.

-Why the **** Would You Even Leave These Guys Out Everyone Wants Them You Piece of ****-
Ridley - Why? Seriously?
King K. Rool - No, really, tell me why, now.

Edit: Sorry, my mistake.

 

[Yoshi-Thomas]

When did he say that?

Kid Icarus : Uprising. When he said he made this game, a new Kid Icarus character was an obligation.
He chose the characters in 2012, with some receiving no names (pokemon from X and Y).

 

[SuperBrawler]

I love all of them! I love the fact that the characters aren't going to turn out boring like everyone predicts it. Yeah, I'll say it. I don't care about Ridley, or even K. Rool that much. Plz don't kill me.

I don't believe the Gematsu leak either.

 

[ihskeyp]

- Good Choices -
Massively requested, most famous for his games on the NES.
Blah blah blah Namco, importance, something, I dunno. He's Pac-Man.
Important character from an extremely popular and successful "new" franchise.
Highly popular in the West, from a fun, beloved franchise with a recent and successful reboot.

- Meh Choices -
At least he's a cool Pokemon, though the fact that he may be taking Mewtwo's spot is ********.
Secondary character from small, recently-revived franchise, her inclusion was inevitable the second Sakurai stated he was working on a new Kid Icarus. She's popular, though, which, I suppose, makes it okay. At least people wanted her. Though I hate her with a passion.
A sort of "thank you" to Wii Fit. However, nobody wanted her or cared until she was revealed, then "SAKURAI IS GOD" took over and everyone thinks she's the best thing since sliced bread now.
Certainly came out better than I expected. Honestly surprised these fellas weren't in Brawl, since that was "their time".
Chrom - His inclusion was inevitable and his game did well. From a skin-deep perspective, he's a good choice. Better choices from Awakening, though.
Shulk - Popular request from a game that few people (in the US) have played. Yet another boring anime swordsman.

-****-tier Choices-
No. Mario Galaxy wasn't so good that it deserved its own character. Mario has enough characters as-is.
Choir Men - Brought to you by "Characters Nobody Wanted". "Characters Nobody Wanted" is a trademarked property of Masahiro Sakurai and Sora LTD.

-Why the **** Would You Even Leave These Guys Out Everyone Wants Them You Piece of ****-
Ridley - Why? Seriously?
King K. Rool - No, really, tell me why, now.

Don't call sakurai a piece of s***. Without him, we wouldn't have smash bros And while I agree that Ridley should be added just because of relevance and popularity, king k Rool makes sense not being in, seeing as he isn't the main DK villain anymore.

 

[HugoBoss]

Haven't seen all of them yet

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

I agree about a thousand times if not more. It's worse yet to hear people say that about Shulk, but I still pity Chrom for it. It's like people think of swords as a one-way hack and slash weapon based on it's size.

Its the same battle little mac had to deal with during brawls era, all he can do is punch and all that crap. Many without imagination cant seem to get past certain things, either that or their bias against a character adds to that too.

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As for the thread and newcomers, i actually think this is the best set of newcomers weve had yet. Many are from new series, that broaden the smash bros universe, and also bring in much needed new potential in more then the characters themselves even. If we just kept adding from existing series we would be missing the opportunity for new potential. And for the most part, aside from a small number of characters that could fit the bill, we have most of the biggest stars in already. Popularity isnt everything, and even obscure choices will become bigger with the help of this game, just like every smash bros did for those characters in the past.

 

[Makaronileo]

Those newcomers tho, none of them is not Great.

 

[fogbadge]

get over it you bunch of cry babies there is nothing you can do about sakurai's choices and complaining about will get you no where

 

[Ganonthegreat]

8/10: The idea was very silly to start off with, but the concept has now really grown on me. I can't wait to try my hand at her.
8/10: Very heavily requested, and he looks very unique, the only reason he doesn't get a 9/10 is because I'm not a fan of projectile based characters.
6.5/10: I'm pretty meh on the Villager, I feel like Animal Crossing would have been better represented by somebody like Nook. Regardless he's pretty well designed.
7.5/10: In terms of character alone Rosalina would get a low score from me, like a 4/10. However the Luma metagame is amazing, and it's enough to make me want to play as her.
9/10: This was one of the big three I most wanted (Other than Mewtwo and Ridley), I love his design and his gameplay. He's going to be the first newcomer I try out.
8.5/10: I love Greninja, and I had him on my wishlist long before his announcement. He looks like he plays well but I'm a little dubious on some of his specials (Namely Side and Down).
7.5/10: Mii's are long overdue IMO. I wasn't a huge supporter of them but I had nothing against them, and the way they've been handled is perfect. The range of customization is insane (3 styles, with 12 specials and modifications based on size and height) and that's a lot better than having one generic Mii using generic sports weapons.
7/10: I like Palutena, and I wanted to see her make it into the game. However I'm not a big fan her design (I wanted it to better fit the anime style) and I would have wanted her to have a single fleshed out moveset rather than 12 completely different specials.
8/10: Pac-Man himself would have got a 9/10 from me, but I don't think then implemented him right. I feel they should have spent more time representing him as a character rather then Namco as a whole. Maybe I'm just biased because I was the designer for Super Smash Bros. Crusade's Pac-Man, IDK. I just feel it could be better.

And assuming the Gematsu leak is correct.
Shulk 7.5/10: I don't know jack about Xenoblade so I can't really say much. He's wanted and that's all that really matters.
Chrom 7.5/10: Fire Emblem deserves a third representative and I agree Chrom fits the bill. I just hope they can distance him from the gameplay of Marth and Ike.
Chorus Men: 4/10: Maybe Sakurai has a great concept for the Chorus Men based on rhythm, but honestly I don't care. The Chorus Men are a horrible choice for Smash because not many people know who they are, and even then they literally do nothing. If Chorus Men take a roster slot from K.Rool, Ridley or Mewtwo, there will be riots.

 

[Marakatu]

get over it you bunch of cry babies there is nothing you can do about sakurai's choices and complaining about will get you no where

Well, Sonic got in Brawl due to sheer demand.

 

[DraginHikari]

I'm pretty much fine with all the additions at this point, I haven't really found myself disappointed by anything I've seen the worst reaction I've so far was laughing hard at both WFT and Greninja which is debatable if it's a negative reaction. Though to be fair who makes it into the game wasn't ever going to be a major factor in whether I purchased the game or not. I've never found myself disappointed with the roster in any game and whether I use a newcomer in the long run or not doesn't make me mad they were there.

Honestly, even though I have my want list I definitely do not get attached enough to get upset if even not one of my characters ever got. That's where disappointment actually comes in is when attachment to an idea gets a bit too much.

 

[Trigger123]

I didn't want wii fit or miis, and after seeing them I still wish they weren't in the game. The movesets I agree are unique but they themselves have no appeal to me.
Pacman I was iffy about but I think he looks great the way they made him. Also greninja I believed should have been part of 3 Pokemon with a trainer.
I just really want someone like ridley, k rool, zant or ghirahim, and even bowser jr. A strong new villain

 

[fogbadge]

Well, Sonic got in Brawl due to sheer demand.

yeah but that wasnt complaining

you cant expect all characters to get in for the same reasons especially not 3rd party ones

 

[TP8bitPyro]

yeah but that wasnt complaining

you cant expect all characters to get in for the same reasons especially not 3rd party ones

ya just like geno sakurai hates it when people request him lol

 

[FancysaurusRex]

In my opinion, this game seems more about introducing new franchises than adding to existing ones, seeing as how only 3 of our newcomers thus far have been from returning series. That being said, here are my thoughts:

: Excellent choice, and reading through this thread, it doesn't look like his inclusion needs justification. In fact, I feel like he is one of the only characters we are mostly in agreement on.
: I did NOT want Pac-Man at first, because I was certain it would be one Ghostly Adventures Pac-Man *shudder* Sakurai has done a fantastic job with him, however, so I am hyped. Also he is the most recognizable video game character ever, so, y'know...There ya go.
: This was the most OUT THERE character possible. Nonetheless, she looks awesome, and is from Nintendo's 3rd best-selling franchise (4th if you count Mario and Super Mario as separate franchises) I won't say she makes sense, because she is just so bizarre, but she's certainly justified in being here.
: While I don't think he was the best representation for Animal Crossing, the franchise still deserved a character. Besides, the Villager's moveset is more indicative of his series than Tom Nook or K.K. Slider would be.
: I am surprised she is such a contentious character, honestly. As far as new Mario characters go, she has an incredible moveset, and very few characters can match the kind of potential she had to be interesting (Namely Bowser Jr, who I actually don't have much of an opinion on)
: Now we're at one of my only gripes. Kid Icarus, in my opinion, was fine with just Pit. I think the series has far too much representation as-is. Plus, her moveset looks so bland. I respect the character, but if it hadn't been for Sakurai having worked on Uprising, I doubt she would have been included.
: This is one of my favorite choices. Pokemon is a massive franchise, so being one of the only returning franchises with a newcomer makes sense. Plus, there are so many characters in the series that we need surprise picks like this. Honestly, I feel that Sakurai should be more willing to make cuts in Pokemon and Fire Emblem, because there are so many interesting characters we'll never get to if we keep bringing the same ones back (Looking at you, Jigglypuff) Besides, we have so much Gen 1 representation already. There's two entire generations we have never even touched, so I am hoping for even more surprises like Greninja over "obvious" picks like Mewtwo (I love you Mewtwo, but you're not my top choice)
: Seems like another character most people agree on, so there is very little to be said here.
: My only other gripe, not because Miis are bad, but because they can't be used online. There is no reason they shouldn't be allowed to, seeing as how past Nintendo games have allowed them online! It's kind of ridiculous.

If the Gematsu Leak is true, then here are my last three thoughts:

Shulk: Great choice from a new franchise that desperately needs more accessibility ($90 for a used Wii game??) I say he is an excellent pick.
Chrom: He will be my third gripe. He is a great character, but Smash makes Fire Emblem look like such a boring series. Smash has done well making Ike and Marth different, and I'm sure Chrom would also play uniquely, but Smash makes the series look like it's nothing blue-haired swordsmen, as far as the eye can see. Let's get some variety up in here, eh?
Chorus Kids/Men: Huge surprise for America, sure, but not so much for Japan. Rhythm Tengoku is a very popular series over there, I am lead to believe, although that could be BS. Nonetheless, they have crazy amounts of potential, and are from a series that could do well with a newcomer. These guys would make me really happy.

 

[fogbadge]

: While I don't think he was the best representation for Animal Crossing, the franchise still deserved a character. Besides, the Villager's moveset is more indicative of his series than Tom Nook or K.K. Slider would be.

as he's the character you play as surely he is the natural choice no matter what people say about tom