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Asdioh

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boots and 3 potions? why wouldn't you start that in the current jungle?
nocturne's supposedly good in season 3 jungle btw
 

ranmaru

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Really, why is that? (Instead of using bands or like a pull up bar etc)
 

vanderzant

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Really, why is that? (Instead of using bands or like a pull up bar etc)
Oh I'm not saying that it's "better" or anything, just that I've gotten good strength/fitness from using free weights and traditional strength training exercises. The main thing to take out of any exercise programs is that if it works, keep doing it! So if you like using bands then I say stick with it :cool:. Pull ups are legit though, probably my favourite exercise :b:.
 

Swiss

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Don't get mad - get Swiss
...boots 3?

Why Swiss? Why?

:phone:
Yeah start with boots of swiftness...I run Noc with 21 in the Utility tree for extra starting gold.

When I'm on Lee I prefer the Meki Pendant with blue pots, though.

Everyone is saying WW will be godlike in the new jungle..he takes so long to clear a camp already I just waltz into his jungle and take his ****.
 

ranmaru

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Hmm. Any good tops/junglers I should be on the lookout (sale wise)

I think I got enough AD carries (although I won't play them for a while, trying to get a job/improve myself etc > to get better internet) and supports.

I'm not really considering AP carries. Would like your thoughts on the roles varying importance, like most important to least important and why. (Like AD carry > something > something etc)
 

Shun Goku Satsu Rake

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Level Q first, take E at 2 and W at 4. Max E second for damage/fear duration.

Noct, depressingly, has to build pretty tanky most of the time, because he cannot afford to be a really squishy melee shadow.
Yep, that's how my masteries are set up right now:

specking 9 into offence and 8 into the defence, at 30 it'll prolly be 9 in offence and 21 defence

I always start Q, then go E, Q, W,Q,R, maxing Q first then E second , getting ultimate when i can and W last

Boots 3 - Vamp -> Wriggle - Brutalizer -> Mercs - Phage -> BT/Mallet -> Mallet/BT - Frozen Heart/Banshee/GA

If you're getting behind HoG not Brutalizer.

Not for long, though :3

In the jungle I skill Q,W,E,Q,Q.

The fear duration on red isn't as useful as the AS which helps your passive. If you go for a lvl2 gank then sure E, I prefer lvl 3 gank with E and red.

Currently being a nub i go cloth and pots five and usually only head back once i have enough for boots / vampiric scepter so i can get my wriggles sooner
 

Evil Eye

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@Ran: Free weights give you a little more flexibility in the kind of workout you design than bands I think, unless your bands are adjustable. Even if they are, though, you can't really crunch the math to determine your progress or increments or anything. With free weights you get the main advantage of bands and stuff (works the stabilizer muscles as well; gym machines suck because they do that for you) while also having it be really easy to make improvements and really know how much you're improving and so on. Feelin' stronger than usual? Slap another 5 lb plate on either end. Or even just a 2.5. Free weights are awesome flexible in that way.

Just last week I was hitting my free weights for the first time since getting ******** sick a while ago and I just kept taking a plate off either side everytime I hit muscular failure and then continuing on. It was amazing

Pullup bars are different because that's a bodyweight exercise. Pullups are definitely mad legit, if you've got a bar, do 'em
 

Swiss

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Currently being a nub i go cloth and pots five and usually only head back once i have enough for boots / vampiric scepter so i can get my wriggles sooner
Noc doesn't really need cloth unless you're against a shaco imo.

He's always healthy enough to sustain in the jungle with passive/health from camp deaths and the boots help you get far stronger early ganks. Getting you and your team more gold. You play him 9/21/0?
 

Evil Eye

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there were four reese peanut butter cups in that package, and yet there are five of those paper things that hold them

why the hell does that always happen
 

Evil Eye

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yeah I just haven't had a chance to reply, been hella busy with school. It was full of some good stuff, though, gave me a few ideas. I might hop on skype in a bit, wanna grab a nap before school.
 

Shun Goku Satsu Rake

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Noc doesn't really need cloth unless you're against a shaco imo.

He's always healthy enough to sustain in the jungle with passive/health from camp deaths and the boots help you get far stronger early ganks. Getting you and your team more gold. You play him 9/21/0?
plan to yeah, i might move some into offence though on life steal right now only being 17 , i'm more offensive, ideally i'd like to get executioner / lethality and deadliness on him, then the rest can be defense / point in making smite / flash shorter cdr.
 

Swiss

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Don't get mad - get Swiss
IIRC you can't shorten the smite CD. You get 10 extra gold per smite.

Didn't realise you're not lvl 30, you likely don't have a full runepage for him either. Cloth is K.
 

ranmaru

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Thanks ee + vandy on the freeweight thing. I will keep that in mind.

Also happy thanksgivinggggg!

:phone:
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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Yeah start with boots of swiftness...I run Noc with 21 in the Utility tree for extra starting gold.

When I'm on Lee I prefer the Meki Pendant with blue pots, though.

Everyone is saying WW will be godlike in the new jungle..he takes so long to clear a camp already I just waltz into his jungle and take his ****.
Things like this are why I invested in Fidds E more last night in a ranked, improves his clear time far more than his W will.

Also happy thanksgiving.

:phone:
 

BSL

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Thanks, man. I appreciate the care to spell things Murrican.

:phone:
 

ranmaru

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Already in turkey coma.

Can't wait till Turkey leftover breakfast.
 

ranmaru

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GUYS, HUDDLE: Apex Room stuff

If you are eating turkey, come back to this later. I'll quote it to make sure everyone sees this.
 
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