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[ranmaru]

Apex? No way. School project.

 

[Evil Eye]

Lol yeah. Just lie. Less is more. The less they know the better they will feel.

LOL

Ran that is straight up legit the most clever thing you have ever said, and great advice too

I love it

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Ranmaru you are evil, but brilliant at the same time.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

The only thing I'm legit scared about is that my parents find out, and I really hate lying to them. My stepdad is doesn't tolerate lying and he's honest, but perhaps too honest for his own good. He'll tell you how he feels straight up to you disregarding your feelings.

 

[ranmaru]

Better you try and risk it then just sitting in your room wishing they could trust you even tho they won't at all.

Think of a good lie and prepare yourself for the consequences if it fails. At least have some fun in your life man. You do deserve it.

 

[Evil Eye]

I mean you have a pretty good counter

"I'm 19 years old and you won't let me have my own bank account"

You are pretty much undeniably in the right here unless you're a recovering drug addict or something

 

[Evil Eye]

Can't even think of an "or something" here.

I was going to say "unless you are incapable of managing your money", but even that tends to lead to harsh realizations that force you to get better at managing money and learn from the exp, so... yeah.

 

[ranmaru]

Its simple. You just have to make the choice. Or find a way to persuade them. keep in mind that if they say yes, it isnt confirmed cuz they can change their mind last minute and that suxxxxx.

Still think its better you lie tho. It is up to you

 

[Evil Eye]

Don't even look at it as lying imo

just do it and don't tell them. I mean I can't know if that's actually the best case for your situation, but it sure as hell sounds like it

 

[ranmaru]

Yeah what EE said. Think of it as a 'oh i just went out' kinda thing.

You wont regret it unless they try to pull you from the school project half way.

 

[Evil Eye]

ran you're on fire

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

My parents have gotten me counseling because of my depression and anxiety when I was a pre-teen. I was always depressed, I couldn't make friends, and my grades were awful. My mom babied me and told me it wasn't my fault, and my stepdad belittled me and called me a failure every day. It eventually got to my own sub conscience where I truly believed I was just dirt and meant absolutely nothing. It's amazing, I've only really recovered in recent years. All the counselors, anyone I've talked to about my personal problems, tell me I'm not in the wrong. My parents don't stop arguing about me and what direction to take with me, they think I'm just some lost child. Excuse me getting a bit serious here but these thoughts only recall what I've been through.

When you feel get things together, and you feel like you're going down the right path, the only people stopping you are your own parents. I don't know if they'll ever accept me being a full adult, or accept me as who I am right now, they both need serious counseling and there has been long nights of arguing and fighting over the stupidest ****. I've thought about moving out for the longest time, and I'm going to make it a reality sooner or later.

 

[BSL]

Soup, I have name changes from when I got my premium, and I'll never use them. I'm pretty sure I can share.

Go get your own bank account. Then get a Debit Card. It's the best.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Man BSL, that would be great.

 

[ranmaru]

Your parents just don't understand, and they won't. The only way you can show them they are wrong is by example. Words can't do that.

Sometimes our parents want what is best for us and may be wrong. You don't have time to wait for them to get it, you have to act now.

Your parents aren't the only judge of you. To me you are cool in my book, and for people to understand you, you can't stay in your room and not hang with people. So take that risk of doing that extra curricular program. You won't regret it man.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I've been great at making friends now, I don't have depression issues and I don't find myself being scared of my Stepdad like I used to, he hates it when I stand up for myself. I completely understand what you mean, but I just don't got anywhere else to go and I suppose i'm 'safe' with the status I'm at right now. If I do something irrational, I could lose my internet, I could lose my funding, and yes, they will go so far as to try and spend the money I put into that bank account if I piss them off enough. The fact remains is that, right now, I'm dependent on them. They want that, and I don't.

 

[ranmaru]

I say this from experience. My parents don't understand no matter how many times i try to make them understand. They already have that initial image of me and will always expect that.

Lets say i am going to apex. I say i am goingg to new york. Easier that way really.

I go to the lounge in my community college, and say imma study.

 

[ranmaru]

I got you. Will you tell him 'too bad, tough love dad'.

Big risks i know. But losing your internet is better than losing that one in a lifetime chance to have fun the way you want to. Yolo

 

[ranmaru]

More like once a year chance but you naw meen

 

[ranmaru]

I know it is a hard choice for you because you want to be honest and clear with your parents, but you are 18. Do something with your life. If you are doing plenty, do some more.

You have plenty of time to mull this over man.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

man **** money for soups premmie

xonar for apex 2013

jk i looked it up doesnt work with my schedule
would be totes awesome tho

 

[ranmaru]

Xonie do you have a bank account

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

yes

I tried going to merica this summer but it didn't work out

cough everything was planned then i got blocked by my mom who didnt even pay anything for it cough
cough

maybe this summer though.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

shoutouts to some great people who wanted to donate to support me btw :3

like Joshywoshy (seph)

 

[Evil Eye]

man is there anyone in DGames that doesn't/didn't at one point have overbearing parents?

medi and mashad are literally the only people I can think of that fit the bill

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

well honestly, my mom has always been really close with her 3 children. me being the first to kind of rebel to that has been a major (sometimes minor) friction point for a good 2-3 years of my life

I don't blame her for it tbh. Single moms etc

 

[adumbrodeus]

Seriously soup, they're outright STEALING from you at that point, get your money direct deposited into your own account (don't tell them the hours you're working only give them a portion of what you made) when you have enough saved up to hold your own place simultaneously move out and tell them if they don't give you the money you'll sue for it.

They refuse, take them to small claims court.

Bring documentation of your earnings, and records of the emotional abuse, that'll help.

 

[Vinylic.]

I don't think I'll ever go for credit cards. Gonna stick with debit more.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

you dont really want to threaten your guardians with legal actions lol

you **** on relationships forevermore

I've sort of been there :v

 

[BarDulL]

I was going to say that Xonar but then I was thinking that if Soup never does it, then he'll never have a healthy relationship with his family and they'll always treat him in a way he doesn't appreciate.

 

[Evil Eye]

Credit cards build up your credit rating, which gets you more borrowing power and lower interest rates and whatnot. That's if you're not ********. If you are ********, they become a black hole into which all of your money retreats.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I was going to say that Xonar but then I was thinking that if Soup never does it, then he'll never have a healthy relationship with his family and they'll always treat him in a way he doesn't appreciate.

Communicate. Just ****ing communicate. Do it right, and approach the right person. I understand if he doesn't mind losing his step dad, but his mother is totally different. It'd make both parties inevitably bitter.

Talk with her alone.

then again, I'm not 100% informed about the situation

 

[BSL]

My parents aren't overbearing.

 

[adumbrodeus]

you dont really want to threaten your guardians with legal actions lol

you **** on relationships forevermore

I've sort of been there :v

This relationship isn't healthy, they either accept him as an adult capable of making his own choices or he has to walk out.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

No that's not how it works.

BREAKING an unhealthy relationship doesn't fix it.
Putting people before blocks doesn't fix it either.

 

[ranmaru]

Communicate. Just ****ing communicate. Do it right, and approach the right person. I understand if he doesn't mind losing his step dad, but his mother is totally different. It'd make both parties inevitably bitter.

Talk with her alone.

then again, I'm not 100% informed about the situation

To accomplish what exactly?

Hey mom can I get this? "No, ask your father". Sadly it's more of a mom/dad combo than a mom being there for you and understanding. Unless Soup knows his mom would understand by herself.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

My mom is more considerate, and I've had her go with my way, but the fact is that she's basically scared of my Stepdad and it's a vicious circle.

Allow me to play this out for you.

I'll ask my mom for 5 dollars.
My stepdad will intrude, and ask me why I need 5 dollars.
I will explain the situation.
My stepdad scoffs, and makes a fit.
My mother now either chooses not to give me the five dollars, or goes against my stepdad's will.
If she chooses to give me the money, she gets an earful from my Stepdad, if she doesn't, my stepdad is happy and gets to live in ignorance once more.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Talk about what you feel about the situation.

Obviously there's something lost because both parties are pulling in polar opposite directions and I doubt that his moms intention is to hurt Soup.

Have a heart to heart with mom-chan.

 

[BarDulL]

Breaking a relationship down completely is the best way to start over and figure out what you really want from another person.

I'm not saying he HAS to go to small claims court yet, but it's like the very last option he should take.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

mom-chan.

****ing Xonar