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[#HBC | Acrostic]

@ #HBC | ZoZo

It's the flagrant blind eye and the presence of a system that doesn't care for actual justice. When I was young I was 'investigated' by an officer/principal who promoted the use of vocabulary words outside of fifth/sixth grade knowledge in order to implicate me because 1. I was a minor and the incident wouldn't have me go to a juvenile detention facility, 2. the worst is that I would be suspended, and 3. he would get to go back to work instead of being stuck in an elementary school having to 'investigate' a child-with-a-knife case that was 'clear-cut' to him. This woman looked for help outside of the school's ruling board by turning to the cops and they also had a similar attitude supporting the side of the institution. Stories like this point out an already obvious truth that unfortunately the cops aren't there for the people, but to protect themselves through behavior patterns like the blue code of silence and play to institutions in order to get promoted up the ranks. I don't think that this case deserves special attention because she's a women who was *****, I think it should be showcased as an example of rampant injustice to showcase an institution and a New York hub-culture that doesn't promote fair representation which is an ideology that is heavily endorsed by many New Yorkers.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I mean yeah priority nr1 for that school is to save their name why openly admit that their prime students would do something like that

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

I mean yeah priority nr1 for that school is to save their name why openly admit that their prime students would do something like that

Doesn't matter, schools have a need to work out sexual cases as objectively as possible.

School's holistic integrity > couple of players.

i.e. Penn State scandal, Duke Lacrosse scandal. In both these cases there was a fundamental interest to pursue the truth of the matter which exposed wrong-doing on the part of the accused (PSS 2011) and the legal body doing the accusing (DLS 2006). However this case differs greatly from the prior two cases as there is little to not attempt to actually dig further into the truth of the matter and papers were relied upon to 'break the story' which I doubt would make an impact given that the cops already sided with the institution.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Doesn't matter, schools have a need to work out sexual cases as objectively as possible.

School's holistic integrity > couple of players.

except it does matter. If you acknowledge the fact that it happened and it gets out, then your name will be tarnished. "Wow, the elite of that school is a buncha rapists? I don't wanna go there."

i mean, in terms of social justice, hell yeah, find all rapists and get them help/lock them away.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

except it does matter. If you acknowledge the fact that it happened and it gets out, then your name will be tarnished. "Wow, the elite of that school is a buncha rapists? I don't wanna go there." i mean, in terms of social justice, hell yeah, find all rapists and get them help/lock them away.

Depends on a case by case basis. Schools have a lot of interest in their reputation so they don't want to be known as the school that tried to defend a group of rapists as an institution. People usually blame the team for the **** violation and not the school as a whole because the school usually just abstracts itself from the matter and turns it into a sole issue between the coach/players v. whomever the victim may be. I don't think that any school is ridiculous enough to try to intentionally skew the results because journalism is a big thing in this country. Which makes this case morbid since there were stated testimonial contradictions and a bad ruling (according to the source we've got on the matter). However, I wouldn't be surprised if the story also had holes/flaws in it since the Times is known to rush big pieces without fact checking every detail leading to some incorrect articles. But it is one of the most, if not the most reputable paper we have at the moment in New York.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

In all other respects, it's at turns funny, touching, etc., but I don't know that it's any more so than any of the movies in Disney's most recent golden age.

It is though.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Depends on a case by case basis. Schools have a lot of interest in their reputation so they don't want to be known as the school that tried to defend a group of rapists as an institution. People usually blame the team for the **** violation and not the school as a whole because the school usually just abstracts itself from the matter and turns it into a sole issue between the coach/players v. whomever the victim may be. I don't think that any school is ridiculous enough to try to intentionally skew the results because journalism is a big thing in this country. Which makes this case morbid since there were stated testimonial contradictions and a bad ruling (according to the source we've got on the matter). However, I wouldn't be surprised if the story also had holes/flaws in it since the Times is known to rush big pieces without fact checking every detail leading to some incorrect articles. But it is one of the most, if not the most reputable paper we have at the moment in New York.

Except **** victims are known to not come out with it. What logical reason is there for the school to defend those rapists outside of their reputation?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

What about Brave, RR

I liked it, wish the lead did more physical stuff but still liked it.

 

[BSL]

But that also had the "I'm not marrying a guy I don't know" thing. And it was better than frozen.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

But that also had the "I'm not marrying a guy I don't know" thing. And it was better than frozen.

Can't agree with that, at times the film has editting or more dull that didn't happen frozen.

Frozen feels more complete writing wise, Brave also tackled something different and it did that well.

 

[Circus]

It is though.

Eh. I would disagree. Depends on exactly which elements you value most. I would say Lion King is more touching (Simba losing Mufasa might hit harder than any fictional parent's death in any other movie I've seen, animated or otherwise). I would say that at least Beauty and The Beast and Aladdin have better music (Frozen is certainly no slouch but Let It Go is overrated while Tale As Old As Time and A Whole New World are perfect). I would say both Lion King and Beauty and The Beast have a better overall cast of characters, possibly by virtue of simply having more of them.

The one thing I think I can wholly give Frozen is that it has great messages that, unlike just about every other Disney movie, don't come with immediately apparent hangups (sell your soul to the devil for a man you've never met, beauty actually is only skin deep, you can change your abusive partner with the power of love, etc.).

But that also had the "I'm not marrying a guy I don't know" thing. And it was better than frozen.

I was actually really disappointed with Brave. I like its ideas in abstract ("fight for your own hand," and the general exploration of the mother-daughter dynamic), but it insanely falls into hokey, bear shenanigans-based slapstick after the first act, seemingly just to appease its perceived young audience. Just about everything that occurs after the curse is a mess. Plus, they don't set up the Big Bad properly to be knocked down at the end. Poor execution on that one, in my opinion.

 

[Circus]

And in fact, I would actually argue that, while they're exploring different angles on the topic, Tangled's exploration of mother-daughter relations is more well realized than Brave's (although Tangled does kind of inadvertently fall into a "biological family is better than other types of family" message)

 

[adumbrodeus]

i didnt even read the thread but hey **** being ignored is damn bad

You ****lord. With that attitude, everybody is going to be ****** everbody! It's going to be a rapefest! Get on the bus, and BAM - *****. Clock in at work, boss ***** you. Go home, dog ***** you. Look in the mirror, **** yourself.
You clearly haven't been paying attention to the tumblr macros. **** is caused by people not hating men enough! Next, you are going to say it's not a good idea for my 15 year old daughter to swill tequila on the beach in Mexico with frat boys while wearing nothing but a thong! Teenage girls should be free to act as irresponsible as humanely possible without repercussion.
And if something does happen, you'd better believe that it's the fault of posts like yours, buddy. And TV. TV doesn't show enough "enthusiastic consent", so our boys think that donkey punching a girl and humping her unconscious body is the norm!
**** is a product of our culture not being mad enough at men, period! Magazines make girls anorexic, and Game of Thrones turned my 17 year old cousin into a **** monster. He ***** daily by looking at women (yes, looking at women can be ****) when they walk by in neon yoga pants (jeez, we just want to be comfortable, we're not here for you to sexualize against our will!). He ***** through the internet when he watches porn, because objectification ****.
He even has a little girlfriend, who told him she wanted to suck his ****, and so he let her. But she's 17 also - which means that he ***** her by allowing her to voluntarily give him a bj, because she was underage. It doesn't matter that he is too, because she is just a poor innocent girl and he is an all powerful male.
His father is exactly the same! He and his wife had a couple of glasses of wine with dinner and then had sex. Which is clearly **** because if a female has had any amount of alcohol she cannot give consent. It doesn't matter that he had drank just as much, because men cannot be ***** and sex is something taken from a woman by a man.
I'm a **** victim myself, how do you feel now, mr. Redpill? I made a post on Craigslist that said "I want to have 5 big black men use me as a cumdumpster", and so 5 big black men came over and I sucked all of their ****s while the others were ****ing me. But right before the last one came in me, I thought to myself "hmmm, my husband is going to be home soon, I should stop," and yet he did not telepathically read my mind and know to stop, hence ****.
I also got ***** when I went to a bar and went home with some guy. I invited myself back to his place, and tore off his pants and blew him. But the next day, he didn't ask me to be his girlfriend, and I started thinking how ****ty that seems and decided that I regretted it - so clearly he was ****** me when I sucked his **** on purpose.
Get your **** together, and check your privilege. You could never understand, because no men have ever had to worry about anything bad ever happening to them. 1,000 women were ***** tonight because your post doesn't put enough blame on men, the media, society, and anyone else who is not a woman!

Well then you're the king of bad timing.



What position are you trying to parody exactly? A reaction parody is in general in pretty poor taste, which was why I objected to the original item.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

What position are you trying to parody exactly?

uhhhh?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Eh. I would disagree. Depends on exactly which elements you value most. I would say Lion King is more touching (Simba losing Mufasa might hit harder than any fictional parent's death in any other movie I've seen, animated or otherwise). I would say that at least Beauty and The Beast and Aladdin have better music (Frozen is certainly no slouch but Let It Go is overrated while Tale As Old As Time and A Whole New World are perfect). I would say both Lion King and Beauty and The Beast have a better overall cast of characters, possibly by virtue of simply having more of them.

The one thing I think I can wholly give Frozen is that it has great messages that, unlike just about every other Disney movie, don't come with immediately apparent hangups (sell your soul to the devil for a man you've never met, beauty actually is only skin deep, you can change your abusive partner with the power of love, etc.).



I was actually really disappointed with Brave. I like its ideas in abstract ("fight for your own hand," and the general exploration of the mother-daughter dynamic), but it insanely falls into hokey, bear shenanigans-based slapstick after the first act, seemingly just to appease its perceived young audience. Just about everything that occurs after the curse is a mess. Plus, they don't set up the Big Bad properly to be knocked down at the end. Poor execution on that one, in my opinion.

I don't see the beast as making stock home syndrome. For one, she only opens up because he stops being a ****. Second he lets he go and she might have cone back if not for that angry mob.

If I made a top ten that movie would be my #3 of Disney movies. Well maybe, it competes with Lion King/Tarzan/Lilo and Stich for that spot but yeah that movie is solid.

Edit: Actually add Alice in wonderland to the potential #3.

 

[adumbrodeus]

uhhhh?

Come on I've seen that same kind of spiel used in both sides of the discussion about exactly the same content, you trying to parody SJW people or what other people tend to think of SJW people? I don't know you (unless you changed your name since I left and returned) and those two points of information are insufficient.

One reaction is just in poor taste and one is monumentally in poor taste.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Come on I've seen that same kind of spiel used in both sides of the discussion about exactly the same content, you trying to parody SJW people or what other people tend to think of SJW people? I don't know you (unless you changed your name since I left and returned) and those two points of information are insufficient.

One reaction is just in poor taste and one is monumentally in poor taste.

That's Xonar

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I'm parodying radical feminists and tumblr culture.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Ok xonar, that was in monumentally poor taste.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Check your priv, cis white male.

@Juushichi hmu

 

[Dooms]

i didnt even read the thread but hey **** being ignored is damn bad

You ****lord. With that attitude, everybody is going to be ****** everbody! It's going to be a rapefest! Get on the bus, and BAM - *****. Clock in at work, boss ***** you. Go home, dog ***** you. Look in the mirror, **** yourself.
You clearly haven't been paying attention to the tumblr macros. **** is caused by people not hating men enough! Next, you are going to say it's not a good idea for my 15 year old daughter to swill tequila on the beach in Mexico with frat boys while wearing nothing but a thong! Teenage girls should be free to act as irresponsible as humanely possible without repercussion.
And if something does happen, you'd better believe that it's the fault of posts like yours, buddy. And TV. TV doesn't show enough "enthusiastic consent", so our boys think that donkey punching a girl and humping her unconscious body is the norm!
**** is a product of our culture not being mad enough at men, period! Magazines make girls anorexic, and Game of Thrones turned my 17 year old cousin into a **** monster. He ***** daily by looking at women (yes, looking at women can be ****) when they walk by in neon yoga pants (jeez, we just want to be comfortable, we're not here for you to sexualize against our will!). He ***** through the internet when he watches porn, because objectification ****.
He even has a little girlfriend, who told him she wanted to suck his ****, and so he let her. But she's 17 also - which means that he ***** her by allowing her to voluntarily give him a bj, because she was underage. It doesn't matter that he is too, because she is just a poor innocent girl and he is an all powerful male.
His father is exactly the same! He and his wife had a couple of glasses of wine with dinner and then had sex. Which is clearly **** because if a female has had any amount of alcohol she cannot give consent. It doesn't matter that he had drank just as much, because men cannot be ***** and sex is something taken from a woman by a man.
I'm a **** victim myself, how do you feel now, mr. Redpill? I made a post on Craigslist that said "I want to have 5 big black men use me as a cumdumpster", and so 5 big black men came over and I sucked all of their ****s while the others were ****ing me. But right before the last one came in me, I thought to myself "hmmm, my husband is going to be home soon, I should stop," and yet he did not telepathically read my mind and know to stop, hence ****.
I also got ***** when I went to a bar and went home with some guy. I invited myself back to his place, and tore off his pants and blew him. But the next day, he didn't ask me to be his girlfriend, and I started thinking how ****ty that seems and decided that I regretted it - so clearly he was ****** me when I sucked his **** on purpose.
Get your **** together, and check your privilege. You could never understand, because no men have ever had to worry about anything bad ever happening to them. 1,000 women were ***** tonight because your post doesn't put enough blame on men, the media, society, and anyone else who is not a woman!

Did you post this on skype? I'm literally dying lmao.

**** is horrible, but accusing men as a whole of being rapists is just as stupid as saying that a **** victim deserved it imo. Can't believe there are people out there on either spectrum. It's not that hard to not be a dumbass like this. :|

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Did you post this on skype? I'm literally dying lmao.

**** is horrible, but accusing men as a whole of being rapists is just as stupid as saying that a **** victim deserved it imo. Can't believe there are people out there on either spectrum. It's not that hard to not be a ******* like this. :|

i did

 

[Circus]

Did you post this on skype? I'm literally dying lmao.

**** is horrible, but accusing men as a whole of being rapists is just as stupid as saying that a **** victim deserved it imo. Can't believe there are people out there on either spectrum. It's not that hard to not be a ******* like this. :|

I can't even begin to unpack this (but I guess I'll try anyway).

No one is accusing all men of being rapists, and the fact that this is where the conversation always seems to go is why it's so hard to fix the problem. The issue is that men **** and get away with it, but for some reason people are often more worried about the potential to be falsely accused of **** (which seriously makes up a fraction of a fraction of cases; it is infinitesimally small) than the victims of ****. It is a grotesque inversion of priorities.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I can't even begin to unpack this (but I guess I'll try anyway).

No one is accusing all men of being rapists, and the fact that this is where the conversation always seems to go is why it's so hard to fix the problem. The issue is that men **** and get away with it, but for some reason people are often more worried about the potential to be falsely accused of **** (which seriously makes up a fraction of a fraction of cases; it is infinitesimally small) than the victims of ****. It is a grotesque inversion of priorities.

stop ****** joey with your arguments circus
geez check your priv

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Can we all not react to obvious hyperbole? No one was inviting you to unpack it, Circus.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

And if they were inviting you, can we ignore troll bait?

 

[Player-3]

im gonna **** you if you don't shut up ryker

 

[Circus]

And if they were inviting you, can we ignore troll bait?

"I think this attitude, or at least its prevalence online, started with internet trolls. And that’s a shame, because trolling used to be pretty funny and almost entirely harmless. Trolling, despite the modern usage, does not mean “the act of pissing somebody off and laughing about their anger.” It is “the act of pissing somebody off BASED ON SOMETHING COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS and laughing about their MISPLACED anger.” It isn’t considered trolling to leave a comment full of racial epithets and laugh when people “don’t get it.” It is trolling if you leave a comment insisting on the wrong information about something irrelevant – how many runes are on a Stargate, for example (everybody knows its 12) – and wait for the ONE guy that just can’t let the transgression pass. If you start a fake fight with Prof. Stargate, dragging him deeper and deeper until hopefully, finally, even he has to stop and think “wait a minute, this is ridiculous,” that is trolling. That’s the difference: No actual harm is caused, and even the victim can eventually get in on the joke. “Trolling” isn’t referring to hiding behind a fortification and trying to hurt people like the mythical creature. It’s referring to the style of fishing – you drag bait across the bottom hoping to get a rare bite. It’s not ‘bait’ if you’re earnestly spouting your misogynistic beliefs and somebody gets upset. There’s nothing funny about entirely justified anger."

http://www.robertbrockway.net/2013/07/18/its-not-a-game-if-you-cant-lose/

 

[Circus]

[redacted]

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Can we all not react to obvious hyperbole? No one was inviting you to unpack it, Circus.

No. Let's look at this tho

No one is accusing all men of being rapists, and the fact that this is where the conversation always seems to go is why it's so hard to fix the problem.

Except some people DO. Hey, ever hear a story about the guys hanging with their kids in a place with a lot of other kids? Better call the cops.

The issue is that men **** and get away with it, but for some reason people are often more worried about the potential to be falsely accused of **** (which seriously makes up a fraction of a fraction of cases; it is infinitesimally small) than the victims of ****. It is a grotesque inversion of priorities.

The issue is that men and woman **** and get away with it. See, you're part of the problem. Gender equality where? Women **** plenty. Doesn't get in the news, because with our culture men aren't expected to show emotion. Men can't be *****, btw, because they always enjoy it (actual opinion of americans).
And yeah, of course people care more about being occused for false ****, that's a personal threat. Someone getting ***** is in most cases not personally relate to you at all. People's priorities? Themselves. Don't need to be Holmes or have a Watson to get that one.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I am seriously ****ing done with people acting like *******s, and then acting all attacked when people react to them accordingly. If you don't want me to bug out on you, then don't act like a vat of human waste.

Oh? Joey didn't do this above in case you're referring to that, but hey, of course its your job to crack down on "vats of human waste".

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Circus, do you believe I am stupid enough that this is going to color my opinion? Who here do you believe is that unintelligent? Please, I am quite honestly sick of watching you get jerked every which way by some of our more shameless posters. If it is going to make me not have to put up with long conversations watching an intelligent person that I like get made to look a fool, then I will block you. Please do not make me do that.

 

[Xivii]

 

[Circus]

Circus, do you believe I am stupid enough that this is going to color my opinion? Who here do you believe is that unintelligent? Please, I am quite honestly sick of watching you get jerked every which way by some of our more shameless posters. If it is going to make me not have to put up with long conversations watching an intelligent person that I like get made to look a fool, then I will block you. Please do not make me do that.

I've already blocked Xonar for his last post.

Frankly, I don't care if you block me, nor do I care if you like me or hate me or think I'm intelligent or a fool or anything like that. I'm sick of seeing people acting like assholes, then whining about it when people react to them accordingly. If I'm the problem in your eyes, then you would do best to go ahead and block me.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

arguments are 2 hard for me

- circus 2014

 

[Raziek]

Circus, you reeeeeeally need to stop getting baited.

I can see the wrinkles forming from here.

 

[Circus]

You should actually read my #45269, and the accompanying link.

Maybe you're so intelligent, like Ryker, that it won't sway your opinion (because that's how you measure intelligence, right? How unable you are to reconsider preconceived ideas?). But I posted it a for a reason.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

That's why I'm gonna draw up a "Sex Contract", a legally binding contract that consenting young ladies would sign in advance of receiving any sweet loving from my loin, agreeing that they are consenting to having my manhood in and or around them.

 

[Raziek]

Why are you mad at ME? Calm down dude.

I don't care about how you want to define trolling.

Ramses said what he did to get a reaction (regardless of if you want to call it trolling or not), and you are giving him exactly the inflamed reaction he seeks.

You KNOW you would be better off ignoring him, so you should not be surprised when Ryker and I are telling you to ignore him.

Nobody is going to run to your side and internet-crusader it up in this scenario because we know Ramses is being a ********, and it is thus unnecessary.