Dexter Mafia ~ ...?

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

For town Tandora, it is better that I die and flip at this point.

I'm doing what is best for town, not what is best so I can live, I'm not an independent survivor I'm a town cop someone CC'd me and I'm calling BS, so since I am the scummier I'm giving town the info they need to prove he is lying.

People forget, town winning is not always about living to the end, it's about ensuring the faction wins by getting as much info out their to town as possible without scum hunting everyone down.

This is best for town, trust me.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I'm here and reading. Gimme some time to make a post. One thing I'd like to get out of the way though: I am not "kind of" coasting ... I simply had a busy weekend [smashfest @ saturday, spend sunday with GF and went out most of monday]. From what I've skimmed I'm pretty sure we should lynch J though.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

EBWOP: Inactive lynch is legit too ... maybe even our best option 2 days before the deadline. Really don't think we should lynch the claimed cops. They should check their sanity first, give us some results and then we figure out who's cop and if somebody's lying.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

My biggest concern right now is this mentality:

We lynch Red Ruy and if he flips town, we lynch Glyph. It really is that simple. Are you guys dumb?

I was in favor of the counter claim but not because we can lynch one and then lynch the other if he flips town ... but because it'd help us find scum in the long run. People are for some reason assuming that there can't be two cops in the game. Why? Are you guys dumb?

FoS Ryker for supporting this idea the most. Pretty sure Laundry also did it.

RedRyu, why are you supporting this nonsense? You realize that you flipping scum doesn't confirm Glyphscum at all?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Gheb is scum.

Vote Red Ruy

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Lynch J / Gordo / JTB, ignore Ryker

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Gheb is spouting nonsense. Ruy trying to hammer himself is about the scummiest thing I've ever seen. You don't let counter claimants live when the other flips town, especially when one is scummy and one is inactive.

Gheb, get vigged.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

No, I legit think Ryu is dumb enough to believe he's outing Glyph as scum that way and he's forgetting both could simply be cop variations. It's true that Ryu is scummy though but J is worse and he should die asap

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Allow me to repeat myself,

get vigged Gheb.

 

[Xivii]

Just let me know if you need a hammer

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I didn't allow you to repeat yourself.

*****.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Oh god what i re-read and what monstrosity is this good lord

oh well glyph cc'ed he either damned himself or got us scum.

hey guys, guess who was right about Glyph and RR not being the same faction.

he's at L-2, right?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Where does the idea come from that RR and Glyph are confirmed to be not from the same faction? It's still perfectly possible.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Yeah sure, but one of them is scum and one of them might be scum. It's unlikely though. Get out of here.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I'm done with this phase.

 

[Tandora]

Why is everyone believing Glyph over RR? Look at Glyph's posts. The first one was from May 6th.

Chibo that was my first instinct too, but they have zero replacements and this game has ... well more than zero.

Bah. I'll cancel that I guess, though literally I feel like I'm doing pizza mafia again heh. I'll see how busy the BR game gets before I make a final decision.

He literally said NOTHING for almost three days before making his CC.

Sgt. Doakes, town cop, responding to prod, *****es.

You know, the guy who's investigative abilities caught Dexter himself, Former Army member, good friend of LaGuerta, doesn't take ****, etc.

vote: RR

Ohhhhh RR, the fun you're about to have. Yes, my sanity is confirmed. Now enjoy being dead!

Then his final post is this?

Sounds like AtE to me, but I'll let J be the judge of that. I mean, he is our resident expert

What exactly has Glyph done to gain our trust on this matter? For all we know he did this out of petulance of being in this game instead of replacing out.

Glyph has done nothing while RR has actually made some thoughtful and reasonable posts about this game.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

i agree with tanny, i don't think RR is scum in the slightest, the way this turned out bothers me, but RR was alot more sincere about it...i think.

when i was re-reading, i saw him vote himself once, ._. i was wondering what the **** was going on, and i was confused beyond all comprehension.

i'm not sure what rr was trying to do, or what he is doing now, but he should really defend himself against glyph, or else i am going to hammer him if he's gonna be worthless.

that's my thought on the matter.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

For town Tandora, it is better that I die and flip at this point.

I'm doing what is best for town, not what is best so I can live, I'm not an independent survivor I'm a town cop someone CC'd me and I'm calling BS, so since I am the scummier I'm giving town the info they need to prove he is lying.

People forget, town winning is not always about living to the end, it's about ensuring the faction wins by getting as much info out their to town as possible without scum hunting everyone down.

This is best for town, trust me.

It's stuff ilke this that worries me, why aren't you defending yourself rr? as tanny/asdioh mentoined, what if there is multiple cops?

making yourself a maytr isn't helping the town, there are obviously going to be some protective role around, and PR mislynch is NOT the best the town can get, if you truly believe glyph to be scum, show it!

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Why is everyone believing Glyph over RR? Look at Glyph's posts. The first one was from May 6th.

I cite Rusty Guillotine where Ran did a TERRIBLE job of counter claiming and I lynched Smargaret anyway just judging by the lack of motive. If I'm wrong, we lynch Glyph.

RR trying to self hammer remains the scummiest thing in the history of ever.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

There aren't multiple cops and I will start shooting people who continue to try and make it okay for Glyph and Ryu to both be town.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

i've played a setup before where there was a every variation of cop, but i prefer not to delve into setup speculation.

RR is going to die toDay most likely, i really am dissapointed in the lack of defending himself and thinking this is a good option (which suffice to say could be in turn if glyph does flip scum) but it's almost like a 'i give up.'

also, y gheb so scum this game

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

They.
Both.
Claimed.
Confirmed.
Sanity.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

i skimmed.

that's beautiful.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

taking a tough re-read right now doe.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

So,

Lynch RR
Shoot Gheb
Doc Glyph if RR scum
Doc me or Asdioh (flip a coin or some ****) if not

Objections?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

none here.

if there is a tracker i would fully request a tracking on me

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I wouldn't. Tracker is a role you CERTAINLY don't want to preplan as scum can act around it with ease and without using an ability.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

unvote Vote: Red Ruy

L-1.

T-block scum too yah

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I think you hammered. Not that it's a bad thing. You making an excuse for hammering is though.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

i can live with hammering, RR was set in his ways to die and out that scum so oh well

he died a good..furry person.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I got objections @ shooting me. I also didn't see both claimed confirmed sanity. Why didn't you just tell me earlier rather than playing this dumb spiel, Ryker? The misunderstanding was obvious when I mentioned cop variations.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

JFYI, ryker.

would prefer t-block over gheb toNight as the vig target if there is one.

he's playing balls to the walls scummy, and if he survives, i will have a case on him toMorrow.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I got objections @ shooting me. I also didn't see both claimed confirmed sanity. Why didn't you just tell me earlier rather than playing this dumb spiel, Ryker? The misunderstanding was obvious when I mentioned cop variations.

Because I just went back and found it out. I still don't like people bringing up multiple variants due to how unlikely it seems based on who the cop claimants are. RR was getting lynched today and Glyph was on everyone's list to be vigged.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Totally doesn't make sense. Different cop variants in this game being a possibility has nothing to do with how people play.

I'm dth now though. I didn't realize they both claimed confirmed sane making this whole discussion obsolete anyway.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

RedRyu, why are you supporting this nonsense? You realize that you flipping scum doesn't confirm Glyphscum at all?

You think town cares what I think?

I've written out larger posts about my thoughts and my reads, but ya know Red Ryu = auto scum.

Plus my flip brings information to the table in other areas, I think that is important as well.

RR trying to self hammer remains the scummiest thing in the history of ever.

Gheb is the only person who self hammered himself as scum I have ever seen in Mafia, why? Because in one case he was trying to end a day that just started, in the other he was setting up X1 to win the game.

You should look at intent instead of the action, this is was leads people to dumb conclusions like Ranmaru being scum when he claimed Princess in RE mafia. Your looking for scum, but cookie cutter scum hunting doesn't always work, sometimes you do need to learn about the person to understand them.

he died a good..furry person.

Now what would give you that idea?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Gheb is the only person who self hammered himself as scum I have ever seen in Mafia, why? Because in one case he was trying to end a day that just started, in the other he was setting up X1 to win the game.

You should look at intent instead of the action, this is was leads people to dumb conclusions like Ranmaru being scum when he claimed Princess in RE mafia. Your looking for scum, but cookie cutter scum hunting doesn't always work, sometimes you do need to learn about the person to understand them.

What the ****? I've done it more than once. It's a simple premise. You cut off discussion before anyone else gets there when you realize that all is lost. You admit that you've seen it done which only helps prove that you know about the option.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

You think town cares what I think?

Convince town that you are right, simple as that.

I've written out larger posts about my thoughts and my reads, but ya know Red Ryu = auto scum.

large posts doesn't equal pro-town, i've seen people who post little but are very concise and convincing of what they say, you don't have to spout walls of texts to get your point across, know what point you're trying to come across and leave it as that.

if you are really pro-town, also, you can convince town to consider you not to be scum, you kinda just sat there and went "WHY AM I SCUM EXPLAIN D:"

Plus my flip brings information to the table in other areas, I think that is important as well.

suffice to say the only information we get from this flip is glyph, among little things, it sounds like your damning everyone who was on your wagon to be scum or anything, you were considered scummy, but that doesn't make the people who thought you were scum, if you get what i mean.

your flip will either lead us to vig glyph, or lynch him, that's it, it's not a groundbreaking game maytr, it's more so 'i gave up good luck town'

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[~ Gheb ~]

I still think my J - Red Ruy chainsaw argument holds lots of merit and J should die in case Ruy flips scum.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

i think J is town for now, i'll give it so more thought when i'm going over t-block in the night.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

What the ****? I've done it more than once. It's a simple premise. You cut off discussion before anyone else gets there when you realize that all is lost. You admit that you've seen it done which only helps prove that you know about the option.

I've seen it done but I disagree that it's a clear scum tell for people here. Only time it is a scum tell is when they hammer themselves and post troll.jpg

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I'm not giving up, I'm going with the pro town choice of outing the liar.

I'm talking about my content as well when I did post people, most people I feel like glanced over it, but whatever what's done is done.

My reads are also important in this case since as town my dislikes and likes can be looked at with their interactions.

I still think my J - Red Ruy chainsaw argument holds lots of merit and J should die in case Ruy flips scum.

I guarantee Gheb, I'll flip Joey Quinn, Town Cop.