Devy(Ganon) vs Sago(Doc)

[Devilution]

just a friendly...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=foFYAScXcXA

 

[Insane-Contrast]

Devy
00:23 was a neat ko
01:06 was brilliant
01:10 nice edge-guard
02:04 fantastic
03:07 ops (almost looked like suicide)

Sago
00:05 first strike
You're mastered using the pills is all I can say

 

[DippnDots]

I didn't see you try a single grab or f-tilt the entire game, and even if I missed an f-tilt, there were many circumstances when it could have been applied. The lack of grabbing needs to end, because it's a very strong tool in Ganon's arsenal.

I think you're relying on his aerials way too much. There was an excessive amount of nairs and dairs. While neither got you punished often, a knowledgeable doc will massacre you for these mistakes. I did see one point where a JC grab or fair would have been sufficient to tech chase but you nair'd and squandered your opportunity.

You also jumped into a lot of pills, simple solution, don't jump into them. I'm pretty sure both the jab and the f-tilt will stop them. ***************(CONFIRMATION PLEASE)***************
You can also retreat momentarily to avoid their trajectory.


So, seeing as how some people get offended by my critiques, here's a disclaimer: I know it was a friendly but if other people see this video and don't know these mistakes they might get the wrong impression.

Smash on

Edit: On a side note, the way you played Ganon gave me the impression that you weren't really watching Doc but instead your own character. I could be wrong, but either way it's an important lesson everyone should be reminded of. Watch your opponent, not your character.

 

[Devilution]

This was a sorta old match, but now I actually use F-tilts, this match was when I secondaried Falcon and well Nairs go straight thru docs pills and I guess now that I look at it I shouldn't be using them as much.
Sago also dropped Doc for Sheik...eh.
Thanks for the help.

 

[Magus420]

Yeah, Falcon's n-air is far better for that because his n-air has a really long duration on both kicks and is out there nearly the whole time while Ganon's only hits for 2 frames per kick. Plus in version 1.0 the first kick on Ganon's doesn't even hit in front of him at all.

 

[Zenjamin]

hey Devy, i think you should clarify something.

do you post these vids for your benefit or ours?

do you just want advice? or do you think others will be inspired by your vids?

i ask because i saw you post one of your vids in the stickied Ganondorf Video Archive. and you really are not that good.

not bad. good enough to win some money at some small town tournaments even. but i just havent seen you do anything that most mediocre ganon's cant to.

but it seemed like everything was calculated and not instinctual... i dont know it was just sortta hard to watch for me.



if your just looking for advice then i profusely apologize for being rude...ish

 

[Devilution]

Yeah, until I get better I shouldn't post in the video thread, thanks for pointing that out. I more post these videos for C/C's.

 

[h1roshi]

didnt see too many wavelands for mindgames..peace

-hiroshi

 

[the homosaurus rex]

Being a Ganondorf fan, I have to say that you're at the point in Ganon play that I'd like to be. I have trouble l-canceling dair and I don't always l-cancel fair when I try (my timing still needs help).

Anyway, I may not be a great player, but it was a good match, I'm quite sure I would have lost.

 

[Devilution]

didnt see too many wavelands for mindgames..peace

-hiroshi

It was on FD...didn't feel like wavelanding would be that good for mindgames without platforms.