Death Note Mafia - Game Thread - Ovah

[adumbrodeus]

@ adumbrodeus

Any thoughts on FireEmblemnier's claim?

Beyond that I see no reason to disbelieve he has a steve's ID card none, but that has no effect on my read.

It just makes more confident that certain pro-kira players started the game with the IDs from anti-kira characters in the series in order to use that character's identity as a safeclaim.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Adum I like enough thus far. Has respect for the flavor/set-up like me and hasn't said or done anything disgusting aside from implying I'm an egomaniac lol. Honestly for the most part he just isn't entirely relevant to my goal here, which is the Aoi Flip and the info that comes from it, even if he's town there is good to be had, and dusk will be fruitful for me.

But you are

Kidding, overall I like your slot and that exchange just makes more sense as you getting a little carried away rather then being scummy.

 

[batsnacks]

hi

What's up?

 

[batsnacks]

nothing I guess

oh well time to go play BGH

 

[Ice and Fire]

How you doing batsy, where we at on damdred, alakaslam and FE

 

[batsnacks]

I don't know.

How about we policy lynch everyone with anime avatars and go from there?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I won't have time to get to this and frankly don't care if I die.

Damdred - Scum

Red Ryu - town

Adumbrodeus - scum, his reason for jumping on me wasn't even "****ty play." It was solely my claim, need to be looked at asap for that ****. Past that he hasn't tried to reevaluate it and at best mentioned he wasn't sure of my meta. That's it, literally the sole reason he voted me was claiming Kira's dad who could use a death note.

FireEmblemnier - null

DJCrinkleCut - null learning scum

th3kuzinator - town

Ronike - town lean

Mac - needs to die regardless of alignment, has no direction and has outright refused to answer

The Real Gamer - Town, needs to get out of a tunnel because he literally will have nothing going into tomorrow.

Holder of the Heel - scum lean, he's doing a lot of set-up and flavor help but being frank I can't recall straight up scum hunting outside of his

Ranmaru - obvtown

Alakaslam- I got no clue and frankly don't think I will.

Orboknown - town lean

batsnacks - Town but needs to be more helpful in getting something done. Literally is unhelpful to the point I doubt he is scum.

Gargaglione - nullish leaning more town.

Checking who I want and not giving one iota of a damn about answering to Mac.

 

[batsnacks]

red ryu what did you claim?

"Mac - needs to die regardless of alignment, has no direction and has outright refused to answer"
Saying this is technically against your win condition as town.

"batsnacks - Town but needs to be more helpful in getting something done. Literally is unhelpful to the point I doubt he is scum."
This isn't a reason to town read me, this is a reason to scum read me. Scum likes to give undeserved town reads.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

red ryu what did you claim?

"Mac - needs to die regardless of alignment, has no direction and has outright refused to answer"
Saying this is technically against your win condition as town.

"batsnacks - Town but needs to be more helpful in getting something done. Literally is unhelpful to the point I doubt he is scum."
This isn't a reason to town read me, this is a reason to scum read me. Scum likes to give undeserved town reads.

Siociro yagami or something spelt like that.

Mac read is about towns interest to kill or ignore him at this point given that he has sat in a tunnel and refused to get anything done other than that and I have zero confidence he will.

You're town because your day 1 play, but you have done jack **** to help town get something done. Inquire, ask people questions. Take more active parts in talking with people. You are not doing this.

 

[Ronike]

also scum teams can't communicate during the Day.

this is something i've been thinking about because I think that means that compared to normal games it might be more likely that scum would openly defend a partner because they can't really work together to plan around events during the day.

Still at work , just on break. Have lots of commitments tonight goo, so no garuntee I'll be able to get though my post tonight. My apologies, I know some of you are waiting on baited breath

I just needed to ask about this , as it affects my reads somewhat, mac is this confirmed somewhere, or just theory ?

 

[Ice and Fire]

Ryu either blatant scum or has reached absurd levels of saltiness

Ronike, I can't seem to quote or direct link the post, probably cause thread is closed but:

"During Day and Dusk, no living player may communicate outside of the game thread. "

 

[Gargaglione]

Damdred confirmed scum for doing nothing but sitting on Ryu should the latter flip town. We are in pretty good shape.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Mac has been more useful than you've ever been. Acting all stubborn about this question thing is giving me deja vu to something just as silly that we've already gone through. No one is going to listen to you about him over something so slight, especially with such abandon as "needs to die regardless of alignment".

Also, you didn't address Bats point about your read on him at all. He's right, this dumb/useless player = dumbtown thing is just counter-intuitive. Acting all ignorant/being ignorant shouldn't give someone a free pass, logically speaking, and it also encourages nonsense for the future.

Why is Ranmaru just "obv town"? Because he's protecting you? You similarly call kuz just "town", is that also because people have been talking about how he defended you?

You've no idea what to think of Alakaslam even though his vote on you, as pointed out by Ranmaru your obvtown read, was arguably worse than Adumb's, whose "****ty" reasoning for it gives you enough to call him flat out scum? And I'm just a lean, when my initial vote on you was considered bad, ALSO by your obvtown Ranmaru?

 

[batsnacks]

Siociro yagami or something spelt like that.

Mac read is about towns interest to kill or ignore him at this point given that he has sat in a tunnel and refused to get anything done other than that and I have zero confidence he will.

You're town because your day 1 play, but you have done jack **** to help town get something done. Inquire, ask people questions. Take more active parts in talking with people. You are not doing this.

Saying you want someone dead as either alignment is playing against your win condition as town... you can't just throw the game because you don't like what someone's doing.

And town reading me when you think I've done jack **** is extremely scummy. Are you just saying I'm town because that's what all the townies are doing? Are you saying I'm town because you don't want to have to deal with me interrogating you?

Saying "bats is town but he hasn't done jack ****" is a town read for the sake of a town read. What are you accomplishing by saying I'm town for no reason?

 

[batsnacks]

whatever though seriously

I'm not going to vote red ryu now that he claimed. If red ryu wasn't the real Siociro yagami then the real Siociro yagami could just claim and we'd have easy mafia.

I don't see the point in voting him.

 

[batsnacks]

mass claim seems super strong in this setup.

we all have unique names, right?

can anyone think of a legitimate downside to mass claiming?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Does Mac actually think anyone else is scum?

the answer is most likely not.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

he could be sochiro yagami and still scum bats

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Does Mac actually think anyone else is scum?

the answer is most likely not.

what point are you trying to make

 

[batsnacks]

Does Mac actually think anyone else is scum?

the answer is most likely not.

Let's ask him:

Hey Mac, who's mafia other than Red Ryu?

While we're waiting for him to respond, we could be talking about why we're not mass claiming.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Mac has been more useful than you've ever been. Acting all stubborn about this question thing is giving me deja vu to something just as silly that we've already gone through. No one is going to listen to you about him over something so slight, especially with such abandon as "needs to die regardless of alignment".

Also, you didn't address Bats point about your read on him at all. He's right, this dumb/useless player = dumbtown thing is just counter-intuitive. Acting all ignorant/being ignorant shouldn't give someone a free pass, logically speaking, and it also encourages nonsense for the future.

Why is Ranmaru just "obv town"? Because he's protecting you? You similarly call kuz just "town", is that also because people have been talking about how he defended you?

You've no idea what to think of Alakaslam even though his vote on you, as pointed out by Ranmaru your obvtown read, was arguably worse than Adumb's, whose "****ty" reasoning for it gives you enough to call him flat out scum? And I'm just a lean, when my initial vote on you was considered bad, ALSO by your obvtown Ranmaru?

Someone might listen when I flip town, or after he leads 4 mislynches unless he steps it up if he is town.

It's not silly because town will play bad sometimes and you have to accept it's going to happen. If town lynched solely off bad play town would lose far far more often.

Ran is obvtown because he's playing like town Ran. Scum Ran doesn't know what to do when he isn't sure how to fake something. We play very similar in that regard.

Alakaslam is no clue because I literally don't have a clue how to read him. Yes I don't like his vote but I don't have a clue if it's poor play or not. I'd rather have him lynched if it came down to it, but I don't have any solid read on him.

Adumb's vote is worse if not on par with Slam's.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

what point are you trying to make

If you are scum, you have no real direction nor any interest in trying to push town to doing anything but tunnel me. Unlike Gamer I expect more from you to read other players but not once have you tried to push anything or question any other player this day phase.

You've sat on this all day and done nothing of value.

If you are town, step it up and do something with this. You've done jack **** and I'm making sure people call you out on it tomorrow.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

but not once have you tried to push anything or question any other player this day phase.

not true

not lynching you off of bad play, lynching you off of scummy play plus the 5 other bullet points i made

and yea becuz i might help lead one potential mislynch ppl should be worried that i'll lead town on a mislynch parade to game over. makes sense. clearly you're operating from a town POV

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also Mac is right about outside communication.

Day - 4 days (96 hours)

Players may...
Post inside of the game thread.
Vote to lynch a player.
Perform Day actions.
Give items.

Players may not...
Communicate outside of the game thread.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

not true

not lynching you off of bad play, lynching you off of scummy play plus the 5 other bullet points i made

and yea becuz i might help lead one potential mislynch ppl should be worried that i'll lead town on a mislynch parade to game over. makes sense. clearly you're operating from a town POV

You lead and wanted Gorf yesterday.

If not true, then share it. You have no reason to hide this at this point and I hope people will get on you for not doing anything anywhere else.

 

[batsnacks]

I'm going to claim in 30 minutes if someone doesn't explain to me why we shouldn't all claim.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also lol at this,

makes sense. clearly you're operating from a town POV

 

[#HBC | Mac]

bats wait what? why should we all claim?

@Ryu, i was for the lynch but did not by any means lead it. if anything gargs and kuz had much more influence on gorf dying than I ... I wanted you dead the most yesterday but was cooperating with other players on a mutual scum read. but like i said im not tryna turn this into a fruitless discussion about me since noone thinks im scum. whenever you feel like being helpful, you can choose to explain why you claimed what and when you did, why gargs stayed higher on your scum list than gorf, or give reasoning for who you're gonna investigate

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm going to claim in 30 minutes if someone doesn't explain to me why we shouldn't all claim.

Because we can die via death notes potentially.

We're not mass claiming.

 

[Gargaglione]

Don't claim.

Most setups here will punish town for massclaims and scum are given fakeclaims 9 out of 10 times. Everyone's reading you as town anyway so it'll just help scum find power roles.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

How would we even test that people are providing their actual character, Bats? Why would we believe your claim? It'd only be confirmed upon you dying from the Death Note.

If there are multiple notebooks, there's a chance an entire handful of people will die within a single phase.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

bats wait what? why should we all claim?

@Ryu, i was for the lynch but did not by any means lead it. if anything gargs and kuz had much more influence on gorf dying than I ... I wanted you dead the most yesterday but was cooperating with other players on a mutual scum read. but like i said im not tryna turn this into a fruitless discussion about me since noone thinks im scum. whenever you feel like being helpful, you can choose to explain why you claimed what and when you did, why gargs stayed higher on your scum list than gorf, or give reasoning for who you're gonna investigate

As if I didn't answer all of this or try to ask questions of other players, some of which people ignored.

Let me know when you tell me who else is actually scum, which is probably nothing given your absolute refusal to answer something so simple when I did for you including the bottom 3 questions.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Gonna put this thread on unwatch, not wasting my time when nothing productive will happen and I got better stuff to do.

Make Macman dedicate to someone is dusk phase if he refuses til that happens.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Misread my checking for bullet stuff, I get the result at dusk phase.

Whoops. Oh well.

 

[The Real Gamer]

I'm being criticized for my play? Man I thought I was on the right track by wanting you gone Ryu.

My heart can't handle these feels atm. I'll read everything else later.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Real talk thought Ryu if you think pushing you is the only thing I've accomplished in this game then you clearly haven't been reading. You need to stop pretending I don't have a plan outside of your lynch (which I do... they just happen to be reliant on your flip).

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm being criticized for my play? Man I thought I was on the right track by wanting you gone Ryu.

My heart can't handle these feels atm. I'll read everything else later.

I'm telling you for your own benefit.

Look elsewhere and consider my town flip right away right now.

Otherwise you will have nothing going into tonight.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Also I think it's in everyone's best interest if we just stop listening to Bats. Massclaiming is a turrible idea.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Real talk thought Ryu if you think pushing you is the only thing I've accomplished in this game then you clearly haven't been reading. You need to stop pretending I don't have a plan outside of your lynch (which I do... they just happen to be reliant on your flip).

You have done more, but I do not think your reads reflect a direction on my town flip outside of DJ.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Aoi, if you're not scum, which character in your outside communications is it? There has to be someone.