DDD now has a guranteed Usmash out of Dthrow on Us, Depends on stale moves.

[RT]

If it's done without a lot of stale and they do it right, no.

Sweet, thanks.

 

[Dark 3nergy]

play the mu like june bug does

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZX7P_kTIY

profit

also you all should get on DDD and try this AT for yourself before you jump to any conclusions

 

[RT]

I would like to see that match played again, now that this is known...I suspect the outcome would be just a *little* different. <_<

 

[phi1ny3]

@ fellow lucario mains:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ

at least he doesn't get a utilt out of it. Worst case scenario: you get -20% on your average survivability

 

[Col. Stauffenberg]

Usmash kills like... 5-10% later than utilt. Who cares?

 

[D. Disciple]

Guys, its not the end of the world. Just play the match up like you always have been. we've beaten D3s and we will beat them again.

 

[hichez50]

Well It all comes down to not getting grabbed

 

[phi1ny3]

Usmash kills like... 5-10% later than utilt. Who cares?

Huh, it always seemed a little more.

Oh well, I'm pretty good at not getting grabbed in this MU.

 

[Alus]

Guys, its not the end of the world. Just play the match up like you always have been. we've beaten D3s and we will beat them again.

"Were bringing a knife to a gun fight.

But who says you can't throw the **** thing?"

 

[Browny]

no way its only 5-10% lol. You can DI usmash hard away from DDD, 15% extra seems about right off the top of my head.

 

[Col. Stauffenberg]

It's about 10%, assuming good DI on both moves. I undercut it but you get the point. Personally, I'd stop rationalizing it and start learning a secondary.

 

[RT]

Yep, MK is looking mighty good right now...

 

[junebug]

Usmash kills like... 5-10% later than utilt. Who cares?

like this guys attitude. gotta look at the positives.

looks like i'll have to start camping D3s harder. or timing them out.

or losing.

or playing metaknight.

hmmmm...

all of the above imo.

 

[phi1ny3]

lol

Stauffy, positive?

 

[Steam]

I gave up on this matchup a long time ago.

yay Falco secondary

 

[Tewx2]

Freefreefree can have whatever he wants out of d-throw he's still the king of free characters. GnW is the prince, Peach is the Princess, and ZSS is the queen.

 

[Pheonix]

Well this doesnt seem too bad knowing that the dedede has to jump cancel the up smash in order for it to work.

Besides, if it was at killing percentage, he would just back throw you and back air camp your recovery.

 

[Alus]

like this guys attitude. gotta look at the positives.

looks like i'll have to start camping D3s harder. or timing them out.

or losing.

or playing metaknight.

hmmmm...

all of the above imo.

You might want to take out losing