D throw

[legion598]

ok so does Dthrow to Uair at like 0 percent combo cuz it looks like it does and even if it doesnt it looks like its very difficult to escape from

 

[RyokoYaksa]

All of Sheik's throws send above the tumble/air dodge threshold, even at 0. In other words, no.

 

[choknater]

Protip:

champ says u can dthrow heavies and utilt. if they air dodge the utilt you can punish them. otherwise they'd get hit by the utilt lol. probably with wrong DI, but still, it's good to know.

if the utilt connects, you can grab again (or ftilt)

this also works on fast fallers who DI into you from the dthrow

sheik's throws are garbage, so even these unreliable options are good to know

 

[Blad01]

All of Sheik's throws send above the tumble/air dodge threshold, even at 0. In other words, no.

Exactly. I've tested all throws for my Sheik True Combo thread, and they don't combo at all. Even the D-Throw to UTil on Bowser... :/

 

[choknater]

yeah, you kinda just have to hope for improper DI and no air dodge

but hey, the utilt forces them to have to get out, which can put them in a predictable position so in a way you can still be in control

 

[-Mars-]

Sheiks throws are pretty crappy, the only reason they're useful is for damage racking. Sheik is fantastic at getting the grab, it's just that the throws themselves aren't all that great.

 

[Villi]

Sheik is fast enough to follow up with her throws with good prediction and an appropriate reaction...

One pretty reliable way of getting someone to DI predictably is to grab and throw them in a direction where their DI would be counterintuitive. A downthrow has a backwards and up trajectory, so if your back is to the ledge and they DI toward the stage they go straight up with a difficult time DIing afterward. I wonder if you might be able to punish an air dodge with vanish that way. Another one is forward throwing someone off the stage... if they tend to DI up and they also DI toward the stage, they end up going vertical which again is difficult to escape. Unless they just know which way to DI based on your throw animation, they'll be put in a bad position.

 

[choknater]

villi! you're pretty good i'd like to play you again : )

i'll play ike, luc, and snake : ) they're my fav chars to use online.

your zelda is good!

man i always looked down upon online play, but it can actually be challenging sometimes! i mean, both players are experiencing lag so both have to adapt

 

[Charoo]

down throw up tilt works no matter how they di. You just need to know how to walk along and under them ready to use up tilt or forward tilt.

 

[Villi]

villi! you're pretty good i'd like to play you again : )

i'll play ike, luc, and snake : ) they're my fav chars to use online.

your zelda is good!

man i always looked down upon online play, but it can actually be challenging sometimes! i mean, both players are experiencing lag so both have to adapt

Hey man, yeah it was fun playing you. We could play today or tomorrow if you want.

 

[-Mars-]

Another thing on back and forward throw: if you use them to throw them off the stage 9 times out of 10 your opponent is going to jump immediately after. I always smack em just by double jumping after the throw.

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

Sheik's throws are amazing... observe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1Fpd3KSNgg

 

[Tristan_win]

Sheik's throws are amazing... observe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1Fpd3KSNgg

Wifi glitch

I can't recreate.

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

Concentrate harder.

 

[Tristan_win]

Concentrate harder.

Look all you did was roll to the edge, shield grab, punch twice and at 78% down throw into what looks like a stage spike.


I just tested it on training mode with the same characters, steps, and percents and can't recreate it.

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

^^ you forgot the fact that I'm wicked ****ing pro, too.

I don't see how stage spike can explain it when it's a downthrow....?