D.Gray-Man Mafia-Town Wins!

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

I connected July and Gorf in my head. The two seemed to be likely linked. I think I gave him a pass too easily for something easy to slip out of, although I'm sure I mentioned that the read was tentative and there were parts of his play that did worry me.

Is Gord scum regardless of July's flip?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Considering his actions were by and large similar to July's, I'd probably say yes. However, I think I may ISO read him just to clarify that read. Is that alright? I probably need to sit down and grind out a reread of this game.

 

[Gova]

This is dumb.

Kuz, what do you plan on doing toMorrow? You said you had a way to confirm WL as scum so are you going to pursue that or go after Gord?

 

[th3kuzinator]

@Kuz: I'm going to be lynched toDay and I am well aware of that since nothing has happened other than the guilty on me, and then you can all see that RR's results are wrong and can't be trusted. As long as something comes out of my lynch that will help town then it is what it is.

And you can say whatever you want but I still stand behind the aa lynch because he was scummy, and even though you "objected" to it you did nothing to stop it other than state you had a gut read on him which is not doing nearly enough if you really wanted to save him.

There isn't a busdriver because a gravedigger and one of those would be horribly imba for a 12 man setup. Since we have a cop we either have a gf or a tailor, since you don't seem to be a redirector. I personally don't think we'd have two miller variants and if we have anything to counteract the cop its a gf.

 

[th3kuzinator]

This is dumb.

Kuz, what do you plan on doing toMorrow? You said you had a way to confirm WL as scum so are you going to pursue that or go after Gord?

Gova, what have you done or plan to do this entire game except sit there and provide backup one-liners for your town reads, just to turn around and say that you're null and pretty much can't answer anything.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

@Kuz: I'm going to be lynched toDay and I am well aware of that since nothing has happened other than the guilty on me, and then you can all see that RR's results are wrong and can't be trusted. As long as something comes out of my lynch that will help town then it is what it is.

/AtE

Well the funny thing is I could imagine townJuly saying this if she had actually put time into the thread and proposed alternative routes to take after her townflip. As it is she has just sat here this entire day phase and said she's innocent.

So tell me July, who do we look after upon your townflip?

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

@Gova: Gimme your reads on Asdioh.

@Asdioh: Gimme your read on IR.

@IR: Dance for me.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Considering his actions were by and large similar to July's, I'd probably say yes. However, I think I may ISO read him just to clarify that read. Is that alright? I probably need to sit down and grind out a reread of this game.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

First of all, I didn't say anything about July because I didn't post more than on two occasions yesterDay. And even if that was the case your argument makes very little sense. Taking a "firm" stance sounds nice but adds really little to the connection between you two - and if there's one thing I've learned from being scumbuddies with her in Pizza it's that she likes to give her buddies pro-town credit, something she has been doing to you constantly.

Isn't it funny that this is the exact same thing July did to you D1? She wouldn't board your wagon early game because she said your posts didn't look like scumGheb. I also remember a post from D1 where she refused to accept IR scum because she didn't like the people on your wagon at the time. Let me go find that.

I'm just not sold on IR scum yet, in large part because my top scum pick is sitting on his wagon as opportunistically as I've ever seen anyone wagon hop before. And I agree with the fact that I don't see Gheb being proactive, and that's the opposite of what I've ever seen him. But he's always tried tremendously hard to "scumhunt" in the games I've been with him, both of which he was scum. That's why I'm less confident in an IR lynch than an Asdioh lynch toDay.

Which, in retrospect, looks pretty shoddy to me (and gord is like this is the best reasoning ever, lolgorf y u so bad).

She's given you just enough pro-town credit this entire game to get away with not pushing you as her major scumpick (despite acknowledging a million times over than you've been playing scummy) and has always seemed to be underhandedly defending your slot with this type of reasoning. "Its not that I think he's town, it's that my major pick is on his wagon." That's a very safe move for scum to play because they're able to get away with that town read without actually basing that read on the slot's actual play (which, again, she acknowledges has been bad).

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

K, think I have the scumteam down with a one person margin of error.

That + the question mark that is now Zen, but I think he'll be fine.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

But guys I'm town

 

[th3kuzinator]

I know .

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Town:

Soup
RR

Null Leaning Town:

Gorf (curveball, ik)
WL (upon a scum july flip he moves up to strong town; upon town july he's remains here)
Bardull GLG Someone

Completely Null because of inactivity:

Zen

Null:

Asdioh

Scum:

IR
Gova
July

My one margin of error could be Asdioh replaced into one of IR or Gova, but after re-reading D2 specifically I'm way more confident on scumIR and scumGova.

There's also a question mark over Zen's head just because of the slot's inactivity.

Ready to vote/hammer July whenever we're ready for the flip.

 

[Asdioh]

Welcome back EBR!

On a scale from 1 to scum, I'd put IR around a 7. I sat on his wagon about half the Day yesterDay ("opportunistically," as July puts it) but while he looked progressively better to me, AA looked progressively worse, until it just seemed unreasonable to NOT vote for him, and so I did. However, I was obviously wrong about AA, so looking at IR toMorrow is definitely a good idea.

And Gova.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Gord: read on Soup. Go!

Likely town, now that I think of it. I didn't like play yesterDay, and the way he seemed to defend AA, but now that I think of it he's very probably town.

Obtw Kuz...

How the hell did no one see this?

wtfamireading

Still can't.

I'm gonna get a reread kicking during the Night phase. Honestly the only read I can say I'm comfortable about is a scum ****** and maybe a scum Asdioh, which makes me mad. But yea, don't lynch me I'm town and all that jazz.

@Red Ryu investigate either of me, ****** or Asdioh but don't tell us who you're investigating. Doc should get on Ryu. Trust me when I say this, and explain your results in thread, including whether you're RB'd or not. I mean unless I'm totally misconceived in assuming a claimed cop would be targeted for scum RB. Yes sarcasm. Chances are town will be stubborn and force me to claim tomorrow, so *shrug* might as well lay the ground work for claiming cutely. Hopefully you clowns realize I'm town though. Ya know. I'm town. Kuz knows apparently.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Woah wait Kuz DOES think I'm town alright then.

 

[Asdioh]

I'm gonna get a reread kicking during the Night phase. Honestly the only read I can say I'm comfortable about is a scum ****** and maybe a scum Asdioh, which makes me mad. But yea, don't lynch me I'm town and all that jazz.

502 bad gateway

tl;dr y u mad though?

 

[th3kuzinator]

Soup, I'm trusting your townAsdioh read don't let me down bro.

In turn I ask you to trust my townGord one.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Yo I mad cuz 1) it's the general opinion so it's smelly, and 2) I kinda forgot some of my reasoning for ******, and a lot of my reasoning for you. So I don't wanna go into D3 feeling like a dope being useless town.

 

[th3kuzinator]

@Red Ryu investigate either of me, ****** or Asdioh but don't tell us who you're investigating. Doc should get on Ryu. Trust me when I say this, and explain your results in thread, including whether you're RB'd or not. I mean unless I'm totally misconceived in assuming a claimed cop would be targeted for scum RB. Yes sarcasm. Chances are town will be stubborn and force me to claim tomorrow, so *shrug* might as well lay the ground work for claiming cutely. Hopefully you clowns realize I'm town though. Ya know. I'm town. Kuz knows apparently.

TBH I expect there a GF in this setup and I really don't want a cop investigation messing up my reads. I actually say you investigate someone that you think is null and that could go either way just so we can get a confident town read on them instead of wifoming back and forth whether the result is legit or not.

Also, in preperation of a tailor, don't tell us who you're copping. Take other's scumpicks (and what I said above) into account when doing so, I request, but keep your target to yourself.

Doc get on RR 10obviously.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Woah wait Kuz DOES think I'm town alright then.

Who would have thought.

Every push you make just looks opportunistic and scummy but tbqh, before you started pushing aa yesterDay you looked much much better than regular gorf. In fact I would say I actually thought you were one of my largest town reads before your aa push. From there you got grody and I hadn't really been keeping up with the thread so I began to judge your plan solely from what I saw right in front of me which I didn't like.

 

[Gova]

It hasn't changed. And well I guess that means you don't have a way to confirm WL as scum since you think he's town. Sorry for taking an interest in something that was potentially very important.

TBH I expect there a GF in this setup and I really don't want a cop investigation messing up my reads. I actually say you investigate someone that you think is null and that could go either way just so we can get a confident town read on them instead of wifoming back and forth whether the result is legit or not.

Man you're wifoming yourself already. What if this null person is the GF? Just let him cop whoever he wants. Plus I would think you would be ok if he got an inno on your scum reads anyways, it would make you re-evaluate them so you could be even more accurate.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Why is talking about my scum pr wifom more important than addressing my scum read on you?

 

[th3kuzinator]

Why is talking about my scum PR wifom more important than addressing my scum read on you?

And the second should be obvious. I expect one of my scum read on be the GF thus I don't need him being psuedo cleared before I can even make a case on them. Rather clear someone with no content from my mind.

 

[Gova]

Because you haven't said why as far as I know. And it's like why is not answering my questions earlier more important than answering them?

 

[th3kuzinator]

Damn 502s

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[th3kuzinator]

When July flips scum who're you going after and why?

 

[Gova]

That still goes both ways in my mind though, like it could be because you don't want a clear on an easy mislynch or it could be because of what you said.

If she flips scum, I'd re-read and look for anyone telling her to do stuff in thread, she's not much of a leader type person in mafia at least and from what I've seen in Pizza and KSSU. She will generally also get a second opinion from her scummate in thread about something she's already taken a concrete stance about. Anyways, if I had to say off the top of my head, I would go with you and IR. IR for the things brought up already and I don't like the fact that you've been dodging my questions, especially about confirming WL as scum. Like it seemed to me like you knew already that you were going to make to D3 and then you would just tell us then.

 

[Gova]

EBWOP: I mean like if you had a way to confirm someone as scum why wouldn't you tell the town because there aren't any guarantees that you would make it through the night and then we would be left in the dark.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Looks like you want an avenue out from me.

I don't have one, sorry.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Cool omgus bro. Where did your suspicions of my slot go before I expressed interest in lynching you after July?

I don't like the fact that you've been dodging my questions, especially about confirming WL as scum.

That's literally the only thing you've been talking about this entire Day phase. Someone tries to talk about something else, you immediately bring it back to the WL read. You want him to be scum don't you and you're gonna call me scum if you don't get that. Pretty transparent.

Tell me something. Knowing the players in this hydra and knowing the tone of the posts leading up to us claiming a guilty on Laundry AND me putting him on my town list, I'd think you'd have already figured it out.

Like it seemed to me like you knew already that you were going to make to D3 and then you would just tell us then.

You're reaching.

 

[Gova]

They've been there before you expressed interest in lynching me. It's been there ever since you said you could confirm WL as scum.

With regards to the WL thing, now you're reaching; and with Kuz's "avenue" post. I thought you were lying about it and that you might try to set up a mislynch and it turns out I was right about the lying part. And maybe I'm missing the memo here but what is more important than confirming someone as scum?

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

They've been there before you expressed interest in lynching me. It's been there ever since you said you could confirm WL as scum.

With regards to the WL thing, now you're reaching; and with Kuz's "avenue" post. I thought you were lying about it and that you might try to set up a mislynch and it turns out I was right about the lying part. And maybe I'm missing the memo here but what is more important than confirming someone as scum?

Are you trying to act this dense or are you just having a hard time formulating sentences?

I was asking you to make an easy inference based on the information I provided you. There was no place to be reaching in the first place.

You think I was claiming a guilty on WL to set up a ML during the Day that the claimed cop had a guilty on someone else? What do you take me for, an idiot? Furthermore, I'm surprised you immediately equated us lying about WL's guilty as to us trying to set up a ML on him and thus imply we're scum for it. We lie as town all the time and you know this from first hand experience. Why do you immediately assume malicious intentions behind our guilty despite knowing it could be done as town or scum.

Now if you've had suspicions about whether we were telling the truth or not, knowing the tone of our posts near the guilty, knowing the players in this hydra AND seeing that we put WL on our town list. What can you infer?

inb4 thats reaching.

 

[Gova]

I can infer that you don't actually have a guilty on him. And I said potentially set up a mislynch, not that it was going to happen toDay.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

And you honestly think that mislynching him toDay was my intention, despite there already being a cop guilty on someone?

Either you must think I'm the dumbest player in dGames or you're scum grasping for something to label as a connection between July and myself.

 

[Gova]

Wtf, I literally just said that it didn't have to be toDay.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Missed that, point still stands regardless of whether we apparently wanted to ML him toDay or whenever. Do you honestly think that was our intention from the way we went about it?

Anyways, if I had to say off the top of my head, I would go with you and IR. IR for the things brought up already and I don't like the fact that you've been dodging my questions, especially about confirming WL as scum. Like it seemed to me like you knew already that you were going to make to D3 and then you would just tell us then.

So your major scumpick this entire game pretty much (Asdioh, the only person you voted for on D1 and then subsequently re-affirmed your read for in 742) isn't on your list to look at after a scumJuly flip?

Why?

 

[Gova]

I said I think he is scum so of course I will still be looking into him.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Then why didn't you include him when I asked you about it before? Seems like he would be pretty hard to forget, considering you pushed him for the entirety of D1. Weird, huh?

Are you saying he's scum regardless of July's flip while your scumIR and scumEBR reads come from a scumJuly flip?

Still need to answer the top portion of 757.

 

[Gova]

Missed the 757, and my answer is that what I was trying to find out. And I take connections with salt. I'm going to be looking at all my scum picks regardless of what anyone flips.