D.Gray-Man Mafia-Town Wins!

[th3kuzinator]

Vote: Red Ryu

I'm Lavi, Vanilla Order Member. Either someone is messing with your read or you are lying, but either way I'm town and that result is bull.

Alright, so if you noticed that he crumbed a bajillion times then how do you know that scum didn't notice that as well? How do you know there isn't someone manipulating results or something?

If you also thought of this alternative then why did you vote RR along with it. A townJuly would have sat down, thought of what could be going on to mess up RR's results and tried to explain scum prs that could have messed up the result.

You came into the thread. Sat there for 30 minutes. Then cross voted RR saying that he was lying and thus scum.

Then, as an aside, you give credence to the possibility that scum re-directed the cop investigation. If you know the miller is already flipped and that RR's claim makes a ton of sense, why are you still voting RR?

 

[July]

My apolegies for the gender issue.

As for the not town, everything is as I said. When AA flipped town I rethought my cop picks, Soup and Kuzi look better to me, more so soup since he was a scum pick. Kuzi and Soup did not appear to have any kind of buddy the play feel it looked and seemed more legit.

So I looked at people on the wagon. I decided between you and Asdioh, and I picked you and got a not town.

No worries about the gender issue, and I don't care that you copped me I just care that you got a guilty when I know I'm town and I'm telling you something else is at play here.

Uggggh.

Unvote

If you are scum you have no reason to fake a guilty on me, there is no reason for you to fake a guilty on a vt, which means that someone messed with your results.

 

[Asdioh]

Time to claim.

I am Allan Walker Order Cop.

I check players to see if they are town or not, July got a nice little, "Not Town" when I checked him.

Vote: July

My crumbs are all the Sherlock Hound pics.

So after looking him up, yeah he's the main character and I see no way you would have the main character + cop as a safeclaim, with no CC. So I believe you there. I also think July was a really good choice, and I probably would have chosen her myself, as bitter as I am over what happened in pizza.

Also, with RR's cop result we can either deduce that there is no indy in this game or that RR can find the indy with one of his investigations.

Can you explain this? I was cop in Dissidia but my investigation wouldn't find the indy, and it was even one-shot.

And as far as D1 mis-lynches go, hitting the miller is pretty funny.

2 for 2! /pizza

I'm re-reading July as we speak.

Gord already looking like a prime candidate off the bat.

Totally agreed on Gorf being next to go. Who after that though?

Really? I don't remember their connections aside from Soup listing them both as scumpicks, I think. I thought Gord looked pretty good, myself >_>

Alright, so if you noticed that he crumbed a bajillion times then how do you know that scum didn't notice that as well? How do you know there isn't someone manipulating results or something?

I don't have scum buddies because I'm not freaking scum, I'm pretty sure I've been very clear about that.

That second line feels incredibly scummy.

One was the no kill, I'm taking a gamble on their being a cop. If scum has a roleblocker well not much I can do.

er.. what?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Doc not cop sorry on phone.

 

[July]

If you also thought of this alternative then why did you vote RR along with it. A townJuly would have sat down, thought of what could be going on to mess up RR's results and tried to explain scum prs that could have messed up the result.

You came into the thread. Sat there for 30 minutes. Then cross voted RR saying that he was lying and thus scum.

Then, as an aside, you give credence to the possibility that scum re-directed the cop investigation. If you know the miller is already flipped and that RR's claim makes a ton of sense, why are you still voting RR?

Yeah Kuz, because I did that so well in Celeb that it got me lynched when I was the town roleblocker.

I realize that scum RR doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense now, but if you haven't noticed I've said multiple times I have limited internet access and I'm working as fast as I can on crappy public internet before the mall closes and I'm screwed. I am trying to consider everything, and that included the fact that RR is scum.

And I wasn't sitting there for 30 minutes, not that it really matters but I know what time I logged on and I know that I lost my connection twice from the first time I came into the thread so don't pull that crap with me.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I beleive the connection johns. But still your saying I can't be scum and then saying I am scum in that post, contradictions much?

 

[th3kuzinator]

But why did you even vote RR in the first place?

You said right after you voted him that it was likely that his results must be tampered with. If you acknowledged this, why did you feel the need to place your vote at all?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Soup is town to me now, AA flip and July's pokes at Soup make me think he is town.

TPK is still inactive and needs to die or get active.

Reread Gord I agree with the connection.

IR could have been a bus earlier on can't say for sure, IR also got better after his wagon was dangerous for him so bit might have been July looking for a mislynch.

Those are somethings I noticed.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Yo soup, we still tag teaming this *****? Lesss do et

 

[July]

I beleive the connection johns. But still your saying I can't be scum and then saying I am scum in that post, contradictions much?

In my first post after I saw your "guilty" on me I considered both options, and just from pure experience it seems a LOT more likely that a wrongful guilty is the product of lying scum rather than a manipulative or redirective role, in fact I'm not sure I've ever played in a game with a redirective role so from experience I suspected you were scum. But I never crumbed anything or pretended to be a pr Day 1, so I don't see any reason you would want to fake a guilty on me and screw yourself over.

Experience lead me to believe that you were scum, but that doesn't make sense here, at the beginning of D2 and no reason to push for me other than a "guilty" on me. It was fair for me to suspect foul play on your part at first because I know you are wrong, and I also haven't had a very good read on you all game. Also I didn't know the flavor so that didn't mean anything to me, but common sense says you really are the cop. So it has to be a manipulative role, something that redirects or flips the results or something.

Also, is your sanity guaranteed?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I have no garantees, is the main character wrong a lot? I wouldn't know.

July I don't beleive you, you flipped of when you realized calling me scum wouldn't work. Even after you unvoted your still fishing for it.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Alan walker is a very sane character.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Alright, so we got July? Good ****. I'm liking this. Miller gone, cop has to be a cop. I doubt there's a redirector or a tailor, so I'm going to ignore those possibilities until proven otherwise.

So now, we let her sit. We'll lynch her when we need to because I have a more solid read than a cop guilty.

Unvote Vote WL

Dude, that kid is so scum. C'mon bro, ask me why and why we're lynching you first.

 

[Asdioh]

Vote: July

Alright, so we got July? Good ****. I'm liking this. Miller gone, cop has to be a cop. I doubt there's a redirector or a tailor, so I'm going to ignore those possibilities until proven otherwise.

So now, we let her sit. We'll lynch her when we need to because I have a more solid read than a cop guilty.

Unvote Vote WL

Dude, that kid is so scum. C'mon bro, ask me why and why we're lynching you first.

You have to be joking. ToDay is not ending in anything other than a July lynch, unless we have a cop CC or anything crazy like that. Besides, my honed Laundry instincts tell me that he's town, wtf are you talking about?

If anyone, I'd rather look into GOVA >:E

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Hi buddy, whacha got for me this time?

Also, can I take this as a scumread on you because I sure as hell ain't scum this time and you know that stupid little standard you say kinda works both ways.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Asdioh, unvote for me, broski. I have legit information that will change your mind, and I don't need a scum quickhammer/selfhammer to **** it up. Just bear with me. Keep July at arm's length.

 

[Asdioh]

L-3 isn't... uhh...

unvote

whatever @_@ we have 10 freaking days anyway

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Hi buddy, whacha got for me this time?

Also, can I take this as a scumread on you because I sure as hell ain't scum this time and you know that stupid little standard you say kinda works both ways.

Does it? Harry Potter and LotR WW both disagree.

Anyway, homie, what's up with that OMGUS there? Do you legit think we're scum?

Also, why were you hanging out at July's last night.

 

[July]

I have no garantees, is the main character wrong a lot? I wouldn't know.

July I don't beleive you, you flipped of when you realized calling me scum wouldn't work. Even after you unvoted your still fishing for it.

I'm not fishing, I'm trying to figure out what is wrong with your reads, which is pretty reasonable considering that you are trying to push me as scum.

And I'm not an idiot, I may have been pissed when I first saw your "guilty" but I wasn't going to sit here and call you scum when I started to consider your motivations and there was no reason for scumRR to fake a guilty on me.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Okay, that...wow, are you seriously going to make a mistake that dumb? I was V/LA for the entire night phase and never got the chance to send in my night action.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

..........

So, what's up with the OMGUS bull**** in your first post this phase?

 

[Asdioh]

Does it? Harry Potter and LotR WW both disagree.

Anyway, homie, what's up with that OMGUS there? Do you legit think we're scum?

Also, why were you hanging out at July's last night.

Okay, that...wow, are you seriously going to make a mistake that dumb? I was V/LA for the entire night phase and never got the chance to send in my night action.

what

what the hell is going on? Ryker, why would y
Kuz, why would y
Nah pretty sure it's Ryker, why would you even out both of yourselves as...

:| :| :| :|

last time I saw something like this was when J outed himself as

Spoiler

mafia

tracker in DR upick2, and that actually had good reason because he saw someone visiting a dead body. EBR, how is WL even scum?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Because it was sudden that you spontaneously threw me on a scumlist with no real explanation. I never got the opportunity to voice concern yesterday. So I started the phase asking for the reasoning for it because of its spontaneity. Kuz then filled me in. Again, don't be ********, you're not this dumb.

 

[Asdioh]

\(o_o)/

/ignore

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

EBR, how is WL even scum?

Dude, did you even look at her Soup push on Day 1. That kid is obv town and WL was being HELLA opportunistic. Now then, Asdibro, what do you think of her reactions to this phase?

Also, I'm still holding the bombshell. xD

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Because it was sudden that you spontaneously threw me on a scumlist with no real explanation. I never got the opportunity to voice concern yesterday. So I started the phase asking for the reasoning for it because of its spontaneity. Kuz then filled me in. Again, don't be ********, you're not this dumb.

So I'm ******** for pushing my suspects? You're brushing aside the matter at hand. That matter is the fact that I have cold hard evidence that you're scum. Convince me that there is room for error before it is more than your choice that all you play is reactionary lynch avoidance.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Oh Jullllllllllieeeeeeeeeeeee, where'd you go and would you be content with a WL lynch ToDay?

 

[Asdioh]

Dude, did you even look at her Soup push on Day 1. That kid is obv town and WL was being HELLA opportunistic. Now then, Asdibro, what do you think of her reactions to this phase?

by "her" do you mean WL?

So either the doctor is one intelligent son of a ***** or scum hit BP. If your BP was busted last night, claim. I want your name off the table of lynches today.

I like Soup a bit more based on AA's flip. Don't get EBR's decision to throw me on a scum list yesterday. Agree that July and Gorf look more grody based on AA's flip.

Are you serious, EBR? ._.

Man I'm so amazing sometimes I amaze myself.

crumb?!

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

No, you're ******** for claiming tracker and trying to insinuate something when I was clearly gone for the entire night phase and therefore incapable of sending in a night action, then brushing it off for being stupid.

I need said cold, hard evidence to prove there's room for error. I'm not going to throw darts in the dark towards a dartboard 50 yards away because you're going to dangle this bombshell above my head like a ******* and expect me to dance for you. You want to push me as a suspect, give me something to work with. Also, same question to you, you're going to fault me for pushing a guy I suspected as scum because of his interaction? You're going to completely ignore my acceptance of him later in the day based on explanations and interactions I also had with him?

I'm sorry, but this entire case is looking to be bull**** so drop your bombshell and actually talk to me about it instead of just dangling it over my head and expecting me to guess it magically.

@Asidoh: Yes, he's talking about me.

 

[Asdioh]

I fail to understand, aside from a cop guilty or lie detector or something, how you could have "cold hard evidence that you're scum" when there wasn't even a kill last Night, so no dead body to see him at etc.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

by "her" do you mean WL?

Sorry, I stuttered.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Or did he?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Convince me that there is room for error before it is more than your choice that all you play is reactionary lynch avoidance.

Also, this could not be further from the truth.

 

[July]

Oh Jullllllllllieeeeeeeeeeeee, where'd you go and would you be content with a WL lynch ToDay?

I lost my connection. I've had a town read on WL since D1, so unless you really have a bombshell then I don't see that read changing.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

No, you're ******** for claiming tracker and trying to insinuate something when I was clearly gone for the entire night phase and therefore incapable of sending in a night action, then brushing it off for being stupid.

I need said cold, hard evidence to prove there's room for error. I'm not going to throw darts in the dark towards a dartboard 50 yards away because you're going to dangle this bombshell above my head like a ******* and expect me to dance for you. You want to push me as a suspect, give me something to work with. Also, same question to you, you're going to fault me for pushing a guy I suspected as scum because of his interaction? You're going to completely ignore my acceptance of him later in the day based on explanations and interactions I also had with him?

I'm sorry, but this entire case is looking to be bull**** so drop your bombshell and actually talk to me about it instead of just dangling it over my head and expecting me to guess it magically.

@Asidoh: Yes, he's talking about me.

I never claimed tracker. I never claimed anything. Where are you getting that from? I like the way the first thing you responded with was, "HA! I couldn't have sent in an action because I was gone. It's not like I could've worked it out with DH ahead of time. HA HA!"

Dude, I'm trying to give you an out man. I don't want to do this to you. I mean, lynching you is such a painful thing, I'd hate to do so.

How about a compromise? I'll hold my trump card above your head like a metaphorical guillotine and instead give you a case to respond to? I'll decide whether to drop it or not.

 

[Asdioh]

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

It's called a softclaim and you damn well know what that is. Again, don't play dumb.

I'm not mad, I'm actually humored you're going to all these efforts to piss me off. I thought you'd be better than this. :v

Give me either. I don't even care. Your bombshell is probably a gambit and I can deal with a case.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ryker you did imply tracker or watcher by that. You said you have info how did you get this info then?

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Ruy, don't fish. You gain nothing out of it. If I have a claim that I want to put out there, then it's in your best interest to wait until I want to put it out there because I know when it does the most good.

Unless you think I'm scum, which you shouldn't.

I haven't forgotten about you, WL.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also screw that.

July goes before anyone else why should we even consider WL over July? Check the guilty.