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[Rockin]

Can you explain to us why the first two parts have anything to do with how I pushed J's lynch?

It doesn't. I just saw your push as plain ol' scummy, and that you're using this type of claim to save you from your huge wagon on D1. That's how I'm seeing it at the moment.

 

[Cello_Marl]

It doesn't. I just saw your push as plain ol' scummy, and that you're using this type of claim to save you from your huge wagon on D1. That's how I'm seeing it at the moment.

Exactly at what point (post, if possible) did you begin to think that my push against J was scummy?

Further, you posit that I'm using my claim to save me. How could I have known what sort of role J would have? If I'm using my claim to save myself, then you must believe that my claim is true. Do you then believe that a scum universal back-up is reasonable?

 

[Rockin]

(all of this is taken as if i was responding to this a coiple of seconds later) Cello is considered scum by just about everyone. Knowing what the bread breadcrumb is could potentially save him/her/it. If the breadcrumb proves cello is town, we don't have to worry. We have only one killing role/group, the mafia (and maybe a smart vig), an a doctor/other protection role. Doc on cello, simple. (Serial killers usually have to kill every night, thus there probably isn't an SK). Why shouldn't we?

Okay, fine. He's considered scum to people. I rather everyone (including you) let him show his breadcrumbs as he wish (if he even has any). No good in asking it out if he either doesn't show it or w/e. (also, if you're gonna answer this, I rather you keep this reply seperate to what I'm going to ask you)

That all depends on who's judging. According to people such as TW, I'm town, while you seem to think of me as slightly suspicious. If im the judge, then I'm 100% town, according to my role pm.

So, you are saying that you are town, correct?

 

[Cello_Marl]

Breadcrumbing is stupid.

 

[Rockin]

Exactly at what point (post, if possible) did you begin to think that my push against J was scummy?

Further, you posit that I'm using my claim to save me. How could I have known what sort of role J would have? If I'm using my claim to save myself, then you must believe that my claim is true. Do you then believe that a scum universal back-up is reasonable?

because about most/nearly all of your post was you telling how scummy J was, and the reason for it was minimal/not worthy of such a large push.

And you have misworded me. I'm talking like the bad way of saving yourself. as in "Oh geeze, I ****ed up really bad" sort of saving. I'm basically saying you're lying and that you're making this up, thus as to why me NOT believeing this claim.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

So, you are saying that you are town, correct?

Yes, I'm town aligned. Though my sheet says lawful-neutral, so I guess I was lying when I said "100% town"

 

[Tandora]

I'm conflicted about Cello's claim. On one hand, it feels too complicated to make up. It is very detailed and scum would be more likely to keep that sort of thing pretty simple.

On the other, it's really unprovable. "Oh darn, guessed the wrong kill again, guess I'm just VT for the day." It's not like he can announce his intended target w/o scum dodging it. Although I suppose that has its benefits too.

What information has Cello given up about J that we didn't already know? Even his physical stats could be easily made up considering Cello could just reference a DnD book for the range of an elf's stats.

And in regards to Cello's question - Yes, I think you could make all that up. And you could lie about it. I've seen you lie about details as town and I know you've done complicated lies as scum.

I'm going to need to do a few rereads before I come to a firm decision. In the meantime UNVOTE

 

[Cello_Marl]

Yeah, Dark Horse is town. While Tanny, myself, Delvro and Ryu (maybe others) would know that Lawful Neutral is an extremely party-friendly alignment, what scum would intentionally claim Neutrality?

@Rockin: Who is your Deity? Of the Neutral Good deities, there are Olidammara, Saint Cuthbert, Obadhai, Sylvanis, Fharlangn, and Torm. Who is yours?

because about most/nearly all of your post was you telling how scummy J was, and the reason for it was minimal/not worthy of such a large push.

Me: "When did you start to think I was scummy?"

You: "All of it"

Let's look at the 3 posts you had yesterDay.

Post #256. Mentions headbutting between J and TW and J and me. A lot of joking around. Mentions to J he'd be fine lynching inactives. Calls me a liar for saying that I am sure of the scum-team early on, which is important to note since he calls me out FOR NOTHING ELSE. Is helpful to Kuz. Promises to read in more depth. Questions J for being quickly defensive against me. Hmm.

Post #257 is an inconsequential addendum to the former post.

It would be reasonable for Rockin to have missed something that might have changed his mind. However...

Post #276. Takes place half an hour after his earlier read. Urges Kuz to step up his game. A lot of crap. The only other thing pertaining to me was:

Dunno about Cello atm, but all I'm seeing right now is him pressuring J, to which I don't see anything scummy about him (except the bit of him being defensive)

Which was him saying that he DOESN'T know about me. He even says he still felt J's defensiveness was scummy. Something must have happened afterward to have affected his opinion of me. But nothing happened. The ONLY actual point I made AGAINST J was when I brought up to Kuz that J was as good an informational lynch as smargaret. One could argue that I "lied" when I tried to hammer J, but it was pretty obvious that was what I was going to do. Even so, how are two points "most of what/everything that I said yesterDay"? If you realized it before that point, why didn't you say something then?

 

[Rockin]

@Rockin: Who is your Deity? Of the Neutral Good deities, there are Olidammara, Saint Cuthbert, Obadhai, Sylvanis, Fharlangn, and Torm. Who is yours?

This'll most likely be the last thing I'll answer to you in terms of my stats, as I don't want Mafia try to piece together who I am and whatnot (not to mention I just plain don't trust you)

It's Blank. It says nothing about my Deity at all.

Me: "When did you start to think I was scummy?"

You: "All of it"

Let's look at the 3 posts you had yesterDay.

Post #256. Mentions headbutting between J and TW and J and me. A lot of joking around. Mentions to J he'd be fine lynching inactives. Calls me a liar for saying that I am sure of the scum-team early on, which is important to note since he calls me out FOR NOTHING ELSE. Is helpful to Kuz. Promises to read in more depth. Questions J for being quickly defensive against me. Hmm.

Post #257 is an inconsequential addendum to the former post.

It would be reasonable for Rockin to have missed something that might have changed his mind. However...

Post #276. Takes place half an hour after his earlier read. Urges Kuz to step up his game. A lot of crap. The only other thing pertaining to me was:



Which was him saying that he DOESN'T know about me. He even says he still felt J's defensiveness was scummy. Something must have happened afterward to have affected his opinion of me. But nothing happened. The ONLY actual point I made AGAINST J was when I brought up to Kuz that J was as good an informational lynch as smargaret. One could argue that I "lied" when I tried to hammer J, but it was pretty obvious that was what I was going to do. Even so, how are two points "most of what/everything that I said yesterDay"? If you realized it before that point, why didn't you say something then?

As far as with 276, at the time, I was pretty neutral about you. I only played with you in Mafia only twice (it's technically three, but I'm never going to count Tom's L4D game due to mechanics and whatnot). So far, from town and indie side, you're known to pressure people to the limit until they either give you the specific info of what you want or they're lynched (and then you'd go after someone else). That's what I saw you doing to J - pressuring him. I never knew the steam would go up so fast after my last post (cause I went to work on that day) and find out that he was, actually lynched. THAT time I read up and saw my dislike for you because you tunneled on J so hard that you hardly ever gave anyone else a thought in mind.

And when D2 comes up, you played worse and decided to go after me/someone else with very crappy reasons.

So in short, I was neutral with you before my posts. The posts after mines on D1 and your D2 play made you look pretty scummy.

 

[Rockin]

EWTOP - also at least as town, you would give a fair reason as to who and why you was pressuring. The way you pushed your J and your reasons as well as your play on D2 seems very anti-town

 

[Cello_Marl]

It's Blank. It says nothing about my Deity at all.

Nothing at all? If that were the case, why did you need to refer to your inbox to remember that?

So far, from town and indie side, you're known to pressure people to the limit until they either give you the specific info of what you want or they're lynched (and then you'd go after someone else).

Why is this relevant? Are you calling me indy? Independent universal back-up? Really?

THAT time I read up and saw my dislike for you because you tunneled on J so hard that you hardly ever gave anyone else a thought in mind.

Why does this make you think I'm scum given our past experiences?

EWTOP - also at least as town, you would give a fair reason as to who and why you was pressuring. The way you pushed your J and your reasons as well as your play on D2 seems very anti-town

What is a better reason for wanting a person lynched, not posting hydra logs or they've been town in too many games? Is either REALLY good at all? Why are you saying that I would?

So in short, I was neutral with you before my posts. The posts after mines on D1 and your D2 play made you look pretty scummy.

because about most/nearly all of your post was you telling how scummy J was, and the reason for it was minimal/not worthy of such a large push.

Again, you said that nearly ALL of my posts were telling how scummy J was. "The Mod is bringing me a kitty" is scummy, how? Correcting mistakes about who was who so that we wouldn't waste time and so that smargaret could correctly evaluate her positions with accurate information is scummy, how? Showing Ryu how Kuz's position was potentially reasonable is scummy, how?

On that note, why were you simply neutral about a person that DID almost literally say "lynch J" and nothing else? Why was J's "defensiveness" scummy?

 

[Cello_Marl]

"Nothing else" in terms of justification.

 

[Rockin]

Nothing at all? If that were the case, why did you need to refer to your inbox to remember that?

Because I can't remember every single detail by memory in terms of PM roles and w/e. It'd make sense to back check on it then possibly try and say it out from memory (especially since said information is from a stat sheet)

Why is this relevant? Are you calling me indy? Independent universal back-up? Really?

I'm not calling you indie, but I AM calling you scum/anti-town, so that makes little difference really. Also, I was just using the DBZ/indie one as another bound of information regarding of how you play. I'm not indie hunting no time soon.

Why does this make you think I'm scum given our past experiences?

Again, tunneling on J, lack of/minimal reason as to why J is scummy, making the day end so quickly (at the time J was on L-1, you had the chance to tell everyone to back off, yet you didn't, thus telling me you was going for that quick lynch). Your D2 play, to which you immediatly go after me for minimal reasons and that your play thus far has just been plain crappy/informative.

What is a better reason for wanting a person lynched, not posting hydra logs or they've been town in too many games? Is either REALLY good at all? Why are you saying that I would?

What else? for them acting scummy/anti town. Let's take a look at your posts against J

#140 There was a small offering of forming a vote block between you, Tanny, Delvro, and possibly Ryu, as well as saying J was scum. Even after the vote, I saw it as RVS shinanicans

#232 was when I saw you being a bit serious about lynching J in this post. you began to quickly seperate who was town and who was possibly scum with your little bits of nitpickery and mechanics. Reading it before, I never really paid any mind to it cause well...game just started. It'd take more then that to really deduct who was town and who was Mafia.

Why did J forget to include a comma after BunBun? That's a scumtell. Obviously, J originally wrote "Delvro, Rockin, th3kuzi, Ryun", then added BunBun afterward.

Pretty hard to take your stances seriously with comments/accusions like this. =/

(also Note, this post coupled with J's 237 is how I felt she was being a bit defensive, as well as a few of TW's post against him)

235 Useless push no 1

337
Useless push no. 2


359 Not directly J related, but you made it known you're fine ending the day as quickly as possible with just ONE REAL LIFE DAY'S WORTH OF INFORMATION.

VERY anti-town here.

365 No surprise here. (one of your two chances of telling others to back off and let the day progress more...but alas...you was dead set on ending the day early)

377
*yawn* (and thus, your last chance)

These things plus your early D2 play has made you pretty scummy. I'm fine with lynching either you or Bunbun at this point (More of gunning for you, really).

Again, you said that nearly ALL of my posts were telling how scummy J was. "The Mod is bringing me a kitty" is scummy, how?

Don't be sarcastic with me, Cello.

On that note, why were you simply neutral about a person that DID almost literally say "lynch J" and nothing else? Why was J's "defensiveness" scummy?

Because said neutral person (which I'll assume you're talking about TW) has at least focused on other people and has been a bit informative (where as you wasn't).

J's defensiveness was scummy cause of how quick he was to try and dismiss your 232 and how emotional (I think it was emotional) against TW. As scummy as that looked, I didn't vote for him cause it wasn't legitimate evidence.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Rereading D1 and haven't evaluated these fresh posts yet. I'll take a Cello lynch for reads at this point, but I don't think he's scum.

Cello: a brief comment on the likelihood of Tandora/Rockin/Walrus, if you please.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Cello: a brief comment on the likelihood of Tandora/Rockin/Walrus, if you please.

Absolutely none whatsoever.

 

[Toastin Walrus]

How about we just lynch Cello anyway? Sorted.

Cello clear stances on who scum are, por favor.

Skimmed it all, posting properly later/2mo

 

[Ryunnosuke]

I'm not so sure that focusing on that past scumminess should effect our decisions now. It was during the RVS after all. I could see Cello's claim being valid, also considering he was L-1 at the time. Bunbun might be the safer, informative lynch here...

 

[Delvro]

Rereading D1 and haven't evaluated these fresh posts yet. I'll take a Cello lynch for reads at this point, but I don't think he's scum.

Cello: a brief comment on the likelihood of Tandora/Rockin/Walrus, if you please.

Dude we don't need any reads from a Cello town lynch. Waste of time and waste of valuable day. Kill Frozenflame (Bunbun) instead.

I'm not so sure that focusing on that past scumminess should effect our decisions now. It was during the RVS after all. I could see Cello's claim being valid, also considering he was L-1 at the time. Bunbun might be the safer, informative lynch here...

This guy knows what he's talking about.

 

[Rockin]

I'm not so sure that focusing on that past scumminess should effect our decisions now. It was during the RVS after all. I could see Cello's claim being valid, also considering he was L-1 at the time. Bunbun might be the safer, informative lynch here...

The only thing possibly RVS related was Cello's 140. 232 and onward is past the RVS stage (at least for him it was).

Can you explain on how Cello's claim being valid? I don't see it. Also Ryuun, just remember that just because he was on L-1 and claimed doesn't mean anything. Remember that fake claims do exist in about a lot of Mafia games. If he has no way to prove that his role exists, then we're at the point of wondering if he's telling the truth or not.

What kind of information would we get from a Bunbun lynch? He hardly spoke D1 and he's doing the same in this game. If I was to pick him though, it would be for him being inactive/useless and I hate for possible scum to coast on by. I suggest we debate/go with a Bunbun lynch on D3.

I hope Frozenflame speaks up soon. I really want to hear what he has to say in all of this.

Smarg, you're still alive, right?

 

[Delvro]

We don't get any information at all out of a Bunbun lynch. We just get a dead scum.

 

[Delvro]

Actually, we do get information out of it. If Frozenflame is scum, Ryunnosuke is town. And it would be nice to know Ryunnosuke is town.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Just got back and am ready to field questions from my computer.

I read everything so far and I gotta say, what are you guys talking about for voting frozen for flip reasons?

FrozenBun has been inactive for a long time, and, just because Ryu makes a point that you agree with, delvro, that makes Ryu town if FrozenBun flips scum? I certainly dont buy that yet. Though I do agree that lynching FrozenBun would be a safer pick, I would definitely not agree with informative.

@Nabe, what sort of reads do you expect to find if Cello flips town? Same question if Cello flips scum?

Also smarg is on V/LA till Sunday.

 

[Rockin]

IF and that's only IF.

Is there even a reason why Bunbun is scummy besides being inactive? I'm fine with lynching inactives as much as anyone, but since Frozenflame/someone is replacing him, I want to give Frozenflame a chance to defend himself.

Also:

These things plus your early D2 play has made you pretty scummy. I'm fine with lynching either you or Bunbun at this point (More of gunning for you, really).

Sorry, I meant to say Summoner, not Bunbun. They're both inactive, so of course I got those guys mixed up XD

 

[McFox]

smarg was on an official V/LA until Sunday night, so she won't be prodded until after her v/la is over.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Get back on that hydra account you *shakes a cane at McFox*

 

[Delvro]

Just got back and am ready to field questions from my computer.

I read everything so far and I gotta say, what are you guys talking about for voting frozen for flip reasons?

FrozenBun has been inactive for a long time, and, just because Ryu makes a point that you agree with, delvro, that makes Ryu town if FrozenBun flips scum? I certainly dont buy that yet. Though I do agree that lynching FrozenBun would be a safer pick, I would definitely not agree with informative.

@Nabe, what sort of reads do you expect to find if Cello flips town? Same question if Cello flips scum?

Also smarg is on V/LA till Sunday.

Not at all the reason I think Ryu is town if Frozenflame flips scum.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Oh. I apologize then.

@ Delvro, if frozenbun flips scum, what is your reasoning behind affirming Ryu as town?

 

[Ryunnosuke]

The only thing possibly RVS related was Cello's 140. 232 and onward is past the RVS stage (at least for him it was).

Can you explain on how Cello's claim being valid? I don't see it. Also Ryuun, just remember that just because he was on L-1 and claimed doesn't mean anything. Remember that fake claims do exist in about a lot of Mafia games. If he has no way to prove that his role exists, then we're at the point of wondering if he's telling the truth or not.

What kind of information would we get from a Bunbun lynch? He hardly spoke D1 and he's doing the same in this game. If I was to pick him though, it would be for him being inactive/useless and I hate for possible scum to coast on by. I suggest we debate/go with a Bunbun lynch on D3.

I hope Frozenflame speaks up soon. I really want to hear what he has to say in all of this.

Smarg, you're still alive, right?

I guess I meant to say his claim COULD be valid; the idea that he's playing someone who can assume other people roles by being the "late gamer" is reasonable as a role in my point of view. Also, I do remember fake claims, which is why my vote hasn't left Cello yet. The reason I said that it could be informative is because if Bunbun does flip town, then Cello and Delvro would top my scum list immediately. Also, we're not losing out too much if Bun dies because of the inactivity. I was viewing it from the pros vs cons side of things. On the other hand, I wasn't expecting the "Bun flips town, Ryu must be scum" deal. Delvro, you make Orwolon sad!

 

[Cello_Marl]

On the other hand, I wasn't expecting the "Bun flips town, Ryu must be scum" deal. Delvro, you make Orwolon sad!

Delvro never said that. If A, then B =/= if not A, then not B. You took logic; you know better than that.

 

[Delvro]

Mafia get to talk between themselves at any time through a special means. I'm certain that Frozenflame is aware of the game to a certain extent. He was contacted about it yesterday and entered early this morning. He's had plenty of time to say something, or at least even announce his presence within 10 hours of entering the game. IIRC nabe did immediately.

I think he's purposefully holding his tongue, hoping that the wagon on Cello will complete and D2 will be over before he has to say anything. After all, once he speaks even a single time, about 5 people will jump on him at once demanding answers.

I also think he's active in the mafia quicktopic thread or whatever they use. Thus, the other mafia are aware that Frozenflame has replaced Bunbun.

Now look at page 16. I made a post accidentally referring to Frozenflame as Bunbun. Not because I forgot that Bunbun was replaced, but because Rockin did the same thing a few minutes prior and I had just finished reading his post. Rockin also could have done the same thing, since Ryu mentioned "lynching Bunbun" a few minutes prior to that. Ryu was the first to make the mistake.

Why Ryu and not Rockin? Well, for starters, Ryu doesn't keep up with the thread on a regular basis and I don't find it surprising at all for him (as town) not to realize that Bunbun has been replaced.

In addition, Rockin has made sure that everyone noticed his mistake and stuff. Could be an honest mistake after hearing Bunbun's name thrown by Ryu. Could also be a bright idea to make himself seem oblivious when Bunbun's replacement flips scum. Dunno.

Therefore, Ryu and Frozenflame are not a team.

 

[Delvro]

On the other hand, I wasn't expecting the "Bun flips town, Ryu must be scum" deal. Delvro, you make Orwolon sad!

No.

Frozenflame flips town = null tell on Ryu

Not scum tell.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@Nabe, what sort of reads do you expect to find if Cello flips town? Same question if Cello flips scum?

Tons. There will be so many reads that I will have too many reads. I will have like 31 reads. I will write that out in letters, it's fairly important.
Thirty-one

 

[Delvro]

Tons. There will be so many reads that I will have too many reads. I will have like 31 reads. I will write that out in letters, it's fairly important.
Thirty-one

Psssh. 31 reeds maybe. And you won't be playing the same tune when the Cello shouts his last fortissimo across the stage, interrupting your devious cup of cacophony.

After all, he is one of the largest instruments in our orchestra.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Mafia get to talk between themselves at any time through a special means. I'm certain that Frozenflame is aware of the game to a certain extent. He was contacted about it yesterday and entered early this morning. He's had plenty of time to say something, or at least even announce his presence within 10 hours of entering the game. IIRC nabe did immediately.

I think he's purposefully holding his tongue, hoping that the wagon on Cello will complete and D2 will be over before he has to say anything. After all, once he speaks even a single time, about 5 people will jump on him at once demanding answers.

I also think he's active in the mafia quicktopic thread or whatever they use. Thus, the other mafia are aware that Frozenflame has replaced Bunbun.

Now look at page 16. I made a post accidentally referring to Frozenflame as Bunbun. Not because I forgot that Bunbun was replaced, but because Rockin did the same thing a few minutes prior and I had just finished reading his post. Rockin also could have done the same thing, since Ryu mentioned "lynching Bunbun" a few minutes prior to that. Ryu was the first to make the mistake.

Why Ryu and not Rockin? Well, for starters, Ryu doesn't keep up with the thread on a regular basis and I don't find it surprising at all for him (as town) not to realize that Bunbun has been replaced.

In addition, Rockin has made sure that everyone noticed his mistake and stuff. Could be an honest mistake after hearing Bunbun's name thrown by Ryu. Could also be a bright idea to make himself seem oblivious when Bunbun's replacement flips scum. Dunno.

Therefore, Ryu and Frozenflame are not a team.

Thank you. This makes sense to me, though I cant take this as evidence against Rockin because it is purely speculative. Other than these reasons, lynching an inactive (which you view as him possibly hiding on his quicktopic) and maybe determining Ryu's alignment, would frozenbun's flip mean anything else to you?

@ Nabe, thank you for writing out the word 31, it really brought the point home...

If you could choose one important flip reason from each category (found out when cello flips town vs. scum) what would they be. List more if you want, but I dont need you to write out all 31 (unless you want too :3)

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

@Delvro

Your logic wrt frozen holding his tongue makes no sense if you compare it to Nabe. Nabe entered during the Night phase if I recall correctly, I'll double post if I'm wrong.

 

[Rockin]

Mafia get to talk between themselves at any time through a special means. I'm certain that Frozenflame is aware of the game to a certain extent. He was contacted about it yesterday and entered early this morning. He's had plenty of time to say something, or at least even announce his presence within 10 hours of entering the game. IIRC nabe did immediately.

I think he's purposefully holding his tongue, hoping that the wagon on Cello will complete and D2 will be over before he has to say anything. After all, once he speaks even a single time, about 5 people will jump on him at once demanding answers.

I also think he's active in the mafia quicktopic thread or whatever they use. Thus, the other mafia are aware that Frozenflame has replaced Bunbun.

I understand how him not chiming in atm can be a bother to you, rest assured that this is pretty normal of him.

You see, Frozenflame is (I believe) currently in Japan, so his timezone is much different then US time zones. This is about one of the reasons as to why that Frozenflame needs a bit of time to post. You can check most of his early post in the V/LA thread if you like

The 2nd reason is that even if Frozen is back in the US, he's normally somewhat inactive (not to say coast throughout the entire game, but he'd once once or twice every few days or so (or at least make one post a day). Frozenflame likes to analyze everything that has gone on in the game and then start to make a huge post about his findings, who he feels is scum, and so forth (as a replacement, mind you.)

All I'm saying is that what's going on now is pretty norm to him, so give him at least till tomorrow or the next day to make a post before casting suspicion on his activity (and when I say his, I mean Frozen's, not BunBun's).

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

You see, Frozenflame is (I believe) currently in Japan, so his timezone is much different then US time zones. This is about one of the reasons as to why that Frozenflame needs a bit of time to post. You can check most of his early post in the V/LA thread if you like

There's no (I believe) necessary. I thought he said something about being there for liek a month?

 

[Rockin]

There's no (I believe) necessary. I thought he said something about being there for liek a month?

It felt longer then a month. Kinda like 2-3 months. I think I read in a few post that he was going to be coming back, but I'm unsure when exactly he was reading.

also, get back into your hydra, n00b D:<

 

[Delvro]

You see, Frozenflame is (I believe) currently in Japan, so his timezone is much different then US time zones. This is about one of the reasons as to why that Frozenflame needs a bit of time to post. You can check most of his early post in the V/LA thread if you like

The 2nd reason is that even if Frozen is back in the US, he's normally somewhat inactive (not to say coast throughout the entire game, but he'd once once or twice every few days or so (or at least make one post a day). Frozenflame likes to analyze everything that has gone on in the game and then start to make a huge post about his findings, who he feels is scum, and so forth (as a replacement, mind you.)

All I'm saying is that what's going on now is pretty norm to him, so give him at least till tomorrow or the next day to make a post before casting suspicion on his activity (and when I say his, I mean Frozen's, not BunBun's).

Oh ok, didn't know that

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

His trip was for two-three months iirc, and that was about one-two months ago iirc.