Cubone / Marowak

[Undrdog]

Yeah, ok it's possibly just months before the release and someone is making a pokemon topic? Well why not. This whole section will be nuked when the release comes and you know what? Cubone and Marowak are just that amazing.

But honestly what do you all think? Cubone and Marowak together have a large fan base and it is an upright pokemon. It fits the right size of character Smash likes to run with and it looks totally boss. ^_^

Cubone

Marowak

It can fight with it's bone similar to Young Link's old move set.


A - Bone swing.
AA - Two bone swings.
AAA - Head Butt.
Dash - Running Head Butt.
F Tilt - Swing similar to Young Link's.
D Tilt - Tail swing.
U Tilt - Head Butt Juggle.
Smash - Homerun Swing.
D Smash - Double tail swing.
U Smash - Bone Uppercut.
B - Sand Attack.
F B - Bone Boomerang.
D B - Earthquake.
U B - No Idea... lol
Super Smash - Bone Barrage.


Hey, it does work. He would look really nice on the Wii. And it's an old school pokemon. My only issue is what his recovery move would be.

Again I know it's very unlikely but I wanted to hear your opinions. (I noticed they weren't in the database and wanted them to be represented. lol)

 

[Fawriel]

Next to impossible.
Oldschool, thus unlikely.
Never played a significant role.

BUT IT'S SO CUTE! I love Cubone. If for some reason I cannot grasp they decided to add Cubone to the game, I'd main it all over the place.

 

[Chidosengan]

Hope for it in a pokeball.

 

[Micahc]

Frankly Cubone/Marowak don't have a large chance, but the did play some role in the games, and they're nearly banned in competitive play. A Marowak ghost appeared in Lavender Tower in the originals and remakes, and it's banned in competitive play if it holds the Thick Club item. It doubles it's attack, so if it's maxed out at 284 , multiply that by two and you get 568. Then you throw in an Earthquake that gets a 1.5x boost, and you have a monster. Cubone/Marowak are also very well known as Pokemon. It's easily as well known as Blaziken, just not as popular.

 

[Undrdog]

I agree with all three of you but I'll push for a starting role! lol

Oh and also want to note that it has had a decently significant role. It was a starting/playable pokemon in the Dungeon series.

 

[MarsBitrona]

Cubone

By far the greatest Pokemon ever. Since this is common knowledge, there is a great chance Cubone will be a playable character. Why leave out the undisputed best ever?

 

[Fawriel]

By far the greatest Pokemon ever. Since this is common knowledge, there is a great chance Cubone will be a playable character. Why leave out the undisputed best ever?

*dooeee, dooeee*

A new challenger is approaching!!

 

[Undrdog]

The image above was at one point a Psyduck. lol

 

[Keto]

I would be so happy if this happened, but their chances are slim. Marowak has higher chances because people don't want to see another cute pokemon get in which Cubone is. Marowak for Brawl!

 

[debaser]

this is ****ed up, I had a dream that cubone was in brwal a few nights ago.

cool, but won't happen

 

[Zeela12]

Cubone or marrawak would have really nice moves, and would be really fun for either to be in it, but they are just too unimportant to be in it.

 

[Undrdog]

I like to think that Nintendo knew that Pichu would suck when they added it. At least that way it's possible for them not to have a reason to add Cubone/Marowak but do it anyway. >_<

 

[Mr.Lombardi KnockOuT]

I don't think cubone should be in the game

 

[Mr.Lombardi KnockOuT]

if they put them they probably won't have good recoveries

 

[Micahc]

Don't double post. And sense when do recoveries help with chances? If that was the rule, a lot of the top tiers would be out, Mewtwo and the Jiggernaught would be god, and Bowser would be emo. Do we really want that to happen? (Although I do admit, emo hair is awesome.)

 

[MarsBitrona]

I would be so happy if this happened, but their chances are slim. Marowak has higher chances because people don't want to see another cute pokemon get in which Cubone is. Marowak for Brawl!

You seem to be confusing cute with amazing. Marowak as a character is basically a less interesting version of Cubone. This, of course, means Marowak is awesome, but Cubone wins because he is made of pure victory. It's really just logical.

 

[Fawriel]

Cubone is a manifestation of the good side of emo.

 

[Vali]

Cubone is a manifestation of the good side of emo.

Eh? How is he emo? And there's a good side of emo to be manifested? Your post confuses me. People label things as emo far far too quickly these days.

 

[Fawriel]

I was joking. D=
I actually hate the word emo because of what it implies.
If I was to be serious, I'd characterize Cubone as depressingly beautiful, but nobody likes being serious.

 

[Vali]

I was joking. D=
I actually hate the word emo because of what it implies.
If I was to be serious, I'd characterize Cubone as depressingly beautiful, but nobody likes being serious.

It's never funny to joke about emo's. Poor Cubone.

Cubone does represent the generation of Pokemon where, I don't know, they actually designed their Pokemon well? It's all downhill after Mewtwo, a short spike back up at Lugia and then all the way downhill again. Haven't played any pokemon games since Gold due to the fact I don't have any urge to collect 100 more pokemon which all fall into the <Funny shaped and funny named 1st generation ripoff> category.

 

[Fawriel]

Hmmm, with some exceptions, you are right. Although I actually like the second generation a lot... actually, every generation has its merits. But the first did really have a certain charm...
That's what I mean about Cubone.
I recall one of his Pokedex entries stating that Cubone weeps for his deceased mother, and through the shape of the skull it wears, it comes out as a sad melody...
If that isn't depressingly beautiful/beautifully depressing, I don't know what is. And show me one single Pokemon with more depth, I dare you.

By the way, half-thousandth post!

 

[Undrdog]

Congrats!

But yeah I didn't mention the fact that so much thought was put into Cubone. It's sad on it's own time, but a warrior when it has to fight. Gotta love a pokemon that actually has characteristics. lol

And think of the super cute poses he can do!

And check out this amazingly realistic render! LOL

 

[D3monicWolv3s]

Hmmm, with some exceptions, you are right. Although I actually like the second generation a lot... actually, every generation has its merits. But the first did really have a certain charm...
That's what I mean about Cubone.
I recall one of his Pokedex entries stating that Cubone weeps for his deceased mother, and through the shape of the skull it wears, it comes out as a sad melody...
If that isn't depressingly beautiful/beautifully depressing, I don't know what is. And show me one single Pokemon with more depth, I dare you.

By the way, half-thousandth post!

Here are some of the pokedex entries for Cubone.

Red/Blue: Because it never removes its skull helmet, no one has ever seen this Pokémon's real face.

Yellow: Wears the skull of its deceased mother. Its cries echo inside the skull and come out as a sad melody.

Crystal: It lost its mother after its birth. It wears its mother's skull, never revealing its true face.

Emerald: It pines for the mother it will never see again. Seeing a likeness of its mother in the full moon, it cries. The stains on the skull it wears are from its tears.
~~~

Cubone is awesome ^_^

 

[slisenberg]

I love cubone and marowak as much as the rest of you, but sadly he is not making it. To push for him is ridiculous. Anyway, MicahC, marowak is hardly banned in competitive play. Sure, that nice option of thick club attack evs with bonemarang/earthquake is beautiful, but he can't switch in and is too slow to do anything. Banned in competitive play works if you mean "rarely used" in competitive play. Dugtrio is a far better choice any day.

Anyway, there have been two new pokemon generations released since melee. I'd assume that if more poke on were to be added, they would be from these newer generations. We already will likely have jiggs and pikachu returning, possibly mewtwo. Is Sakurai really going to use his last 1 or 2 pokemon slots on those from rby? :x

Also, stop kidding yourselves that Cubone/Marowak has any sort of significance in the pokemon games. Snorlax at least appears more than marowak when it comes to pokemon in the way. I mean, marowak and cubone are awesome, but there really is no basis of an argument to get them in. Marowak and cubone were just there. A single appearance in the tower in RBY is surely not enough to put them on the map. Also, the fact that it was a starter pokemon in dungeon means nothing. Eeevee was your opponent's starter in Yellow.

This is definitely one of the best choices for an obscure addition to SSBB, but is unfortunately not going to happen. =/[

 

[Micahc]

I love cubone and marowak as much as the rest of you, but sadly he is not making it. To push for him is ridiculous. Anyway, MicahC, marowak is hardly banned in competitive play. Sure, that nice option of thick club attack evs with bonemarang/earthquake is beautiful, but he can't switch in and is too slow to do anything. Banned in competitive play works if you mean "rarely used" in competitive play. Dugtrio is a far better choice any day.
Meh maybe, I don't know much about competitive play. But doesn't the Thick Club bring it's attack passed Deoxys in attack form? If it's not banned then I am heavily confused, but then again, most of Pokemon confuses me anyway.

Anyway, there have been two new pokemon generations released since melee. I'd assume that if more poke on were to be added, they would be from these newer generations. We already will likely have jiggs and pikachu returning, possibly mewtwo. Is Sakurai really going to use his last 1 or 2 pokemon slots on those from rby? :x

Only if he's as smart as I hope he is. Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald really had no memorable Pokemon, unless you want me to start a Flygon for Brawl thread.

Also, stop kidding yourselves that Cubone/Marowak has any sort of significance in the pokemon games. Snorlax at least appears more than marowak when it comes to pokemon in the way. I mean, marowak and cubone are awesome, but there really is no basis of an argument to get them in. Marowak and cubone were just there. A single appearance in the tower in RBY is surely not enough to put them on the map. Also, the fact that it was a starter pokemon in dungeon means nothing. Eeevee was your opponent's starter in Yellow.

Can you give me any other Pokemon that had relavence in the game. Heck, it's a stretch to say any of the legendaries are vital to the game. Sure you need to fight most of them, but they all turn into spare Pokemon you use to blow through the Elite 4, or you just use them as a novelty.

This is definitely one of the best choices for an obscure addition to SSBB, but is unfortunately not going to happen. =/[

Yeah, life sucks doesn't it?

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[slisenberg]

Te current pokemon in the game are all vital outside of the games and in the anime and the like. Pikachu is obviously the icon of pokemon, but jigglypuff and mewtwo are only in because of starring roles and popularity in anime and movies. The same logic likely puts lucario in, and leaves no room for cubone. :x. pichu is in because it's a mini pika.


anyway, in terms of competitive play, sure wak's attack goes way way up, but it is far too slow to make much use of anything and cannot take almost anyhit without a 2hko. With speed support and the like, wak can do some good. But in reality, wak's strengths outnumber its weaknesses and it makes it little used as a physical sweeper as compared to aerodactyl, dugtrio, snorlax, tyranitar, salamence, and metagross.

If one wants to take both pichu and ice climbers out, but retaint a "dual character" sort of play, one can take plusle+minun out from the rse to replace them both. Deoxys is a memorable pokemon from RSE it seems, based on other people's opinions, as is blaziken.

 

[Fawriel]

On the other hand, there's always the option of Baton Passing some Agilities and Swords Dances to Wakky to make him a nigh-unstoppable force.

( *realizes he knows far too much about random games* )


Also, no dissing the third generation without making an exception for Gardevoir and the rest of its evolutionary line!
...there's probably one or two others I care for, but since I can't recall them right now, probably not that much.

Gardevoir is also Wally's main Pokemon, by the way. And was featured on Sakurai's poll. OHMYGOD

 

[slisenberg]

Unfortuantely, a weezing stops the best speed passer ninjask cold, while any pseudohazer, especially suicune, can put marowak down and out.

 

[Micahc]

Unfortuantely, a weezing stops the best speed passer ninjask cold, while any pseudohazer, especially suicune, can put marowak down and out.

...Providing they have Weezing on their team. I'm not into competative Pokemon play, but Weezings not all that popular I don't think. People prefer Skarmbliss over Weezing. And besides, they Haze, you switch, pray for a kill, baton pass, repeat.

EDIT: I just checked, Marowak can use Stone Edge. After a few Ninjask swords dances, Weezing is screwed.

 

[slisenberg]

Weezing is pretty commonly a standard.

You also mentioned skarmory, which walls marowak as well as pseudohazes. Skarmbliss is not used so much though. :x


Stone edge is stinky. Also a ninjask passer rarely gets opportunity to swords dance. It is basically SUSTITUTE, SUB BROKEN, NINJY GETS A SPEED BOOST. 3 times. A swords dance is deadified by a haze, which immediately nullifies the swords dance and speed boosts anyway.

 

[Micahc]

Weezing is pretty commonly a standard.

You also mentioned skarmory, which walls marowak as well as pseudohazes. Skarmbliss is not used so much though. :x


Stone edge is stinky. Also a ninjask passer rarely gets opportunity to swords dance. It is basically SUSTITUTE, SUB BROKEN, NINJY GETS A SPEED BOOST. 3 times. A swords dance is deadified by a haze, which immediately nullifies the swords dance and speed boosts anyway.

Yeah, Skarm got toned down, but will stay for a while? Sotne edge stinky? Then use rock slide if you want the accuracy! What all this has to do with Marowak in Brawl is beyond me though. He could your Rock slide as a Side B!

 

[Lemon Drop]

Cubone would be awesome but like many of us know, his chances aren't very high

>.> Also whats all this talk about 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gen, and no 4th?

 

[Deleted member]

Cue Boner and Maro ****! Those Pokemanz namers must have been horny.

 

[silver777]

as pokeballs yes.

as a character slot no way.

 

[Octillus]

Psh, you all know the real ground pokemon addition should be Hippowdon! The large hippo that wallows in its own sand filth.


That aside, I've always loved Cubone.

 

[Undrdog]

Aw don't say "No Way", people. Keep in mind they have one of the biggest fanbase in the series. Add to that there was a Japanese poll and at that time Pokemon Dungeon was very popular. Of which Cubone was the most popular playable character, even higher then Pikachu. (Note I wouldn't've known this had I not studied it while being in Post-Op.

I agree that it's chances are rather slim, however far from impossible. With Fire and Leaf's releases the first generation has become the most popular as well. Remember according to Nintendo this is targeting the fans, not the media. So just because First Gen is old news, that doesn't mean it will be overlooked.



EDIT:

I just now found a thread by dotdotdot! that focuses on Cubone for Brawl. -_- I used the search function but didn't find jack. And Cubone/Marowak weren't on the list of preexisting characters so I made this thread.

If a mod would like would they please lock/merge this thread with dotdotdot!'s?

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

 

[Fawriel]

Not only is that image broken, it sucks because Cubones are clearly not furry.

 

[Bassoonist]

Why was this topic bumped up?

Cubone FTW! Even though he's been deconfirmed. >_<

 

[OmegaXXII]

what!! not another Cubone thread, what is it with people liking cubone/marowak anyway?