Crouch Avoid List

[Jester Kirby]

Good stuff....Crouching really gives Kirby the edge he needs on Zamus eh?

 

[lil cj]

This info is very helpful
In some situations would crouching be a better option that using shield?

 

[1nconspikuous]

I have a recording set. I can do it tonight or tommroow if yall'd like a video of it. Just let me know ok?

i know ur probably really busy, but i'm sad this isn't up yet. no rush though! =) as long as it's still coming/wasn't forgotten, i don't really care. life > brawl.

...sometimes. lol.

 

[A1lion835]

This info is very helpful
In some situations would crouching be a better option that using shield?

Yesz!

There are a lot of situations. For instance, if you're about to get Warlock Punched, sheilding will probably set you up for some major ****. Also, at the beginning of the match vs Fox/Falco, they're almost guaranteed to start off with a laser, and sheilding those isn't a great idea. It's better to just duck under it.

 

[Katakiri]

I've really added crouching you my play style. Basically anytime I'm not moving, I crouch.

A lot of people I play say things like "it's really frustrating because Kirby's already hard enough to hit because it's small" or "I can't hit him & when I miss an attack I get tripped by d-tilt"

It's kinda hard to describe, but it makes sense if you see it.

 

[AndreVeloso]

I didn't know you could escape Luigi's up-B with crouch. A Forward smash would soon follow anyway.

 

[Lovely]

I didn't know you could escape Luigi's up-B with crouch. A Forward smash would soon follow anyway.

♪ Most pro Luigi mains usually do one jab, then a Up-B to finish it. And that one jab cancels our crouch.

 

[AndreVeloso]

♪ Most pro Luigi mains usually do one jab, then a Up-B to finish it. And that one jab cancels our crouch.

Dammit! Just when I thought I can confuse casual Luigi players to hell. I guess there casual so they won't notice the jab than. Ah well, I guess I can't use this competitively

 

[GimR]

You should also add Kirby's landing animation, I think he goes lower than a crouch, it's so hard to hit him when he lands. that's why I think jumping towards someone and airdodging works so well with Kirby because when you land you'll be extremely hard to hit.

 

[delement]

kirby's shrink crouch can avoid warios bike if wario is doing a wheelie

 

[Lord Viper]

kirby's shrink crouch can avoid warios bike if wario is doing a wheelie

☆ I think even if he didn't crouch while Wario's doing the wheelie, he would avoid it... I haven't tested it yet but it miss Olimar and Ice Climbers when I played as them. ☆

 

[Triple R]

Oh wow, is the list in the OP even finished? It doesn't look complete. Should we also add shorthop aerials to this list too, like Ganon's shdair? Should we revive this thread and update it? I would be willing to help.

 

[t!MmY]

An update to this thread would be a great idea.

And, btw, I've taken a liking to crouching under Falco's Shine. XD

 

[fromundaman]

Heh, I want to add that you can crouch under Lucario's SH Fair, Nair (rising and descending), sideB, and grab if I remember correctly.

 

[Lord Viper]

Oh wow, is the list in the OP even finished? It doesn't look complete. Should we also add shorthop aerials to this list too, like Ganon's shdair? Should we revive this thread and update it? I would be willing to help.

★ Since the OP hasn't been updated... at all, you mind as well. Also the OP hasn't been active in a while, good reason to start another thread. ♛

 

[A1lion835]

We could just have Kewkky or fromundamam (you have re-earned that title) update the OP.

 

[Lord Viper]

★ Or that. =P ♛

★ RRR or t1mmy, (or both), which one will take this thread? ♛

 

[fromundaman]

I actually can't update it without stealing Krii's posts, meaning like a total of 6-ish times?

It is. Actually, I think I could maybe do it. Let me try...

Edit: There ya go Triple R.

 

[Triple R]

oh wow, fromundaman is all powerful now lol

i'll start working on this soon. I kinda want to start by adding aerials to it, but i'm not sure how to keep it organized. Maybe I could just start with characters' short hop autocancelable moves?

 

[fromundaman]

Yeah, I am pretty awesome.

Wouldn't it be easier to organize it by character?

 

[Triple R]

Wouldn't it be easier to organize it by character?

lol, i should've been more clear, I just assumed sort by character then within each character I would add aerials.

 

[fromundaman]

Ah, gotcha. Also want to add you can crouch below Marth's grab.

 

[Triple R]

Yeah, I'll update later tonight. I tested Marth's grab and most of Mario's attacks.

As for Marth's grab, there seems to be 3 spots of interest. When you are against him he will always grab you. When you are the tip of the grab range, he will always miss. And then in the middle there is a point where he will miss you unless you are crouch taunting.

 

[Krii]

HEY!!!! Sry i kind of left the forums a year ago and never really came back, i saw the flood of emails in my old email account!!!!!!!! I could update the OP i am just so confused right now, but Ill help any way i can!!!

 

[Kappy]

I'm not sure how many aerials you guys have tested, but I know that Ganondorf can't hit with N-Air, F-Air (Unless really oddly timed), D-Air (Unless oddly timed), B-Air, and U-Air (unless Kirby is behind him and it's timed properly).

Also, Captain Falcon cannot standing grab Kirby, and cannot sweet spot a knee while he is crouching. Hope this helps a little!

 

[fromundaman]

I'm not sure how many aerials you guys have tested, but I know that Ganondorf can't hit with N-Air, F-Air (Unless really oddly timed), D-Air (Unless oddly timed), B-Air, and U-Air (unless Kirby is behind him and it's timed properly).

Also, Captain Falcon cannot standing grab Kirby, and cannot sweet spot a knee while he is crouching. Hope this helps a little!

Fair can hit. It's not oddly timed, it's FFing it after the hitbox comes out makes the hitbox last until you hit the ground.
It's actually how you SHOULD fair considering he has the same landing animation when he does it the previously described way and when he does it in the air, only in one case there's a hitbox and in the other you just get the lag.

 

[Triple R]

I added Marth's grab stuff so far. I'll adding and testing Kappy's stuff soon.