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Counterpikas?

Zig-Zag!

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In tourny, I only play pika, shiek, and peach. Pika most of the time.

However, if n64 has some sort of amazing shiek game that Ive never learned, maybe we need to get together and study it. In my opinion, though the top tiers can dominate if they buckle down and learn the matchup, none can shut down pikachu as well as shiek can.

I need to keep up with the smash world, guys. Lots of mario karting lately.
 

festizzio

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In tourny, I only play pika, shiek, and peach. Pika most of the time.

However, if n64 has some sort of amazing shiek game that Ive never learned, maybe we need to get together and study it. In my opinion, though the top tiers can dominate if they buckle down and learn the matchup, none can shut down pikachu as well as shiek can.

I need to keep up with the smash world, guys. Lots of mario karting lately.
but nobody ever will, cause there are like 10 pikachu players in all of the united states

i occasionally switch to fox/captain falcon when i feel like the only reason i'm losing is because of the match-up/feeling frustrated, but it doesn't happen often
 

KirbyKaze

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There's no answer to Sheik people you just have to be awesome and even then sometimes it just won't work.

Unless you're super awesome. Then it's just lulz from there.
 

Kiwikomix

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but nobody ever will, cause there are like 10 pikachu players in all of the united states
Ten AWESOME Pikachu players

The problem, as I see it, is that we main a low tier character, which makes us have sort of an unreasonable loyalty toward that character. You shouldn't let this loyalty rush you into a matchup if the odds are ridiculously against you.
 

festizzio

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Pikachu is my best character, and also the character I have the most fun playing.

With that mindset, I can play against any match-up as Pikachu.
 

INSANE CARZY GUY

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cough cough marth cough his gay range cough , wow i must be coming down with something. really it can't hurt to be good with many people other than pika
 

N64

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down dodge -> charge usmash beats sheik

jk. kinda. sheiks like going for grabs then shielding/downdodging if they miss.

I dunno, there's a lot to the matchup. To me it seems mostly like, if I can catch on to their playstyle (i've seen like 3-4 sheik general playstyles) then I can win. *shrug*

in all honesty, i get beat by sheiks but it feels a lot closer than other high/top tiers
 

Kiwikomix

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(i've seen like 3-4 sheik general playstyles)
If only Sheik was as predictable as Falco

And Festizzio, I see where you're going with this but mindset alone doesn't win matches... sometimes you just can't use Pika if you want to win
 

Zig-Zag!

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Some of the best people Ive ever played suddenly get ROCKED by my shiek when I switch from Pikachu.

Pika is by far my best character, even if Ive put years into some other ones in tourny. But playing shiek feels like taking 50 pounds off my shoulders. I don't do well against shieks in tourny - Ive lost to Z and caveman pretty bad, as well as had trouble against just random shieks. No random marths, foxes, falcos, or peaches have ever given me trouble.

Maybe I just suck, guyz. But shiek is sort of dominent against pika in my head.
 

festizzio

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Some of the best people Ive ever played suddenly get ROCKED by my shiek when I switch from Pikachu.

Pika is by far my best character, even if Ive put years into some other ones in tourny. But playing shiek feels like taking 50 pounds off my shoulders. I don't do well against shieks in tourny - Ive lost to Z and caveman pretty bad, as well as had trouble against just random shieks. No random marths, foxes, falcos, or peaches have ever given me trouble.

Maybe I just suck, guyz. But shiek is sort of dominent against pika in my head.
sheik's one of those characters i absolutely don't understand. maybe if i try picking her up as a character i can understand the match-up better, that's what i did for a lot of other characters.
 

festizzio

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it's not that hard to not get grabbed

and even if you do, it's like 30% unless you're in the middle of the stage or on fd
 

tdk_Samurai

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everyone who plays falco against me will always start the match out with like a jumping laser spam, so I either sit in shield forever hoping they stop(they don't) or I try to shield jump above them, but either the lasers move to fast, or my timing sucks or something.

Does anyone know how to not get messed up by falcos lasers so bad?
 
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