Cool technical stuff to do with sheik

[WHA?]

Fair enough.

I've F-smashed intentionally and had it work out for gimping about twice in my entire life because the first hit is untechable but it's also awful for hitting any decent sweetspot effort so it's pretty useless even for that.

I wish her F-smash was just the second hit.

xome to think of it even link has a better fsmash... he has the option of dishing one or 2 attacks.... sheik has to be a ***** and try to hit both

 

[LooksLikePit]

against a marth with not great DI you can downthrow to forward smash to combo

lol

it's useful

kinda

 

[xbombr]

Or you can do a whole bunch of other stuff to Marth and get a lot more %.

On another note, I got the run off, reverse needle cancel hog a few times. In the process I also discovered the reverse chain -> drop 12 feet -> double jump -> Vanish edgehog. It works well on FoD and FD. You'll probably die on Battlefield and Yoshi Story though.

 

[WHA?]

Or you can do a whole bunch of other stuff to Marth and get a lot more %.

On another note, I got the run off, reverse needle cancel hog a few times. In the process I also discovered the reverse chain -> drop 12 feet -> double jump -> Vanish edgehog. It works well on FoD and FD. You'll probably die on Battlefield and Yoshi Story though.

wow sometimes i hate YS cause i cant run off nair without being in danger

 

[KirbyKaze]

On Marth at the edge if they DI away on the D-throw you can combo D-throw F-smash Fair but there's a certain degree of horrific DI required for this to work. Horrific DI that could have created gay F-tilt combos.

 

[WHA?]

is there any situation where its viable to just run up and jab???

 

[xbombr]

is there any situation where its viable to just run up and jab???

If you know they won't CC it and you aren't sure if you can hit them with anything stronger.

High %'s on floatier characters it's good too because you can Jab -> FAir.

 

[KirbyKaze]

It causes auto-knockdown on fast fallers so it's stupidly good on them too.

 

[Lawrencelot]

Jab to downsmash is pretty good on fastfallers, and on floaties jab to fair, but if they cc and press buttons fast jabbing is a bad idea actually

 

[WHA?]

**** i forgot about floaties...... what considered a high percent? (80% and up?)
kk: it causes auto knockdown but only at higher percents right?

so i guess its genereally best at high percents

i think jab-> grab is good, but when? i know ive done it but out of reaction (cause they went up and away when i jabbed them), but if i wanted to do it based on percent, what would it be

 

[Zodiac]

If you know they're going to sidestep why not just wait and grab? Or D-smash and do more damage?

>.>, Good point.

 

[Luma]

PC edgehog to bair, its just beatiful (maybe because its the only "techskill" stuff i can do with sheik xD)
well but i got a combo with it so i am happy xD

anyway anyone got the frames for this ****ing needle turnaround edgehog? just friggn impossible

 

[soap]

Omar (aka BloodoftheFallen) aka the best Sheik after DSF and Isai on the west coast until like 2007 used to do slap (on shield) then run behind and fsmash. It would work back then cause it was back then. It might still work now and fsmash combos pretty good sometimes. You could do upsmash too, i mean all of her smashes are like equally punishable in that situation anyway

Also Sheik really doesn't have that "POW" move. It pretty much sux which is why i like falco.. dair to fsmash just feels so right (dair on the ground ofc)




a few things i wanna try is,

- continuing combos with weak bair (front part)
- tech chasing with fsmash (i think it could work like falcons dsmash.. but in both directions)
- killing with upsmash tip more often

will report back after this weekend

omar's sheik was ridics. i stole mad amounts of style points from that guy

i do that fsmash thing into back of shields alot too. usually after i was trying to call a roll away from my shield pressure but they sidestepped instead, i just press down and cstick back cuz it seems like the quickest most natural thing to do.

 

[LooksLikePit]

PC edgehog to bair, its just beatiful (maybe because its the only "techskill" stuff i can do with sheik xD)
well but i got a combo with it so i am happy xD

anyway anyone got the frames for this ****ing needle turnaround edgehog? just friggn impossible

try moonwalking then edgeguarding.

It is effective and unbelievably sexy(it takes a few extra frames but that hardly ever matters, and is worth it just because it's so awesome.)

 

[Zodiac]

try moonwalking then edgeguarding.

It is effective and unbelievably sexy(it takes a few extra frames but that hardly ever matters, and is worth it just because it's so awesome.)

Lol you can moonwalk with sheik? Im gonna go try it.

 

[Luma]

moonwalk to up+b is also possible =D

 

[Mattnumbers]

Ledge hop Sheiks upB so that the hitbox hits twice (or one a certain frame not at all). You have to land on the ground during the animation.

Also do it from jumping below platforms (hard on low platforms) and falling down off platforms. Again, you should aim to touch down (on the platform this time). If it works you should hear the SFX twice and see the grounded animation.

Also on Yoshi's Island you can ledge hop UpB, cancel it on the above platform and then end back on the ledge, rinse repeat. Looks pretty cool.

Upb has a lot of fun gimmicks to it.

 

[soap]

Ledge hop Sheiks upB so that the hitbox hits twice (or one a certain frame not at all). You have to land on the ground during the animation.

Also do it from jumping below platforms (hard on low platforms) and falling down off platforms. Again, you should aim to touch down (on the platform this time). If it works you should hear the SFX twice and see the grounded animation.

Also on Yoshi's Island you can ledge hop UpB, cancel it on the above platform and then end back on the ledge, rinse repeat. Looks pretty cool.

Upb has a lot of fun gimmicks to it.

i used to be really good at this. At least onto the top platforms.

from yoshis ledge u can double jump upb double explosion back to the ledge, fun to mix that into my stalls

edit: lol u said that already..