Connecticut Player Finder: We're better than you <3

[Cia]

found it!!

<3

 

[oneangrysquirrel]

lol too good vanz.....too good.

 

[Prince Of Fire]

Yeah, so I'm meeting oneangrysquirrel tomorrow. Be jealous CT.

 

[oneangrysquirrel]

Yeah, so I'm being oneangrysquirrel tomorrow. Be jealous CT.

 

[DarkDragoon]

o.o Where are you being an angry squirrel?
-DD

 

[SwiftBass]

im back

gotta be a smash master

 

[ErciChewman]

im Back

Gotta Be A Smash Master

Yes! Oh Thank Goodness!

 

[thumbswayup]

YES Swift is back! I liked this account name way more.

 

[KevinM]

huldsflhgfhul

 

[DarkDragoon]

Fun Fact:
NUS IS IN BRAWL.
-DD

 

[_V_]

Fun Fact:
NUS IS IN BRAWL.
-DD

Hahaha, too good.

ONE WEEK until I get to see your lovely faces. Everyone better go to that tournament in Storrs...OOSers better go too ^_^

 

[_milktea]

there's a tournament in storrs? >_______________> oops.

 

[Mogwai]

p.s. pirating isn't morally wrong.

I would say that pirating is morally wrong, but I've always found the distinction between morals and ethics hazy at best, so if you'd like to clarify your perception of the difference, I'll gladly debate it.

 

[pockyD]

im back

gotta be a smash master

hey swift when did you leave?

 

[SPAWN]

After adding up all my points from games, I can either sell 53 games (21 DS, 19 GC, 13 Wii), trade in my games for 16300 points(that's 16 of any game from ps1up) or do a mix and match.

From DS games, I got 6000 points.
Gamecube, I got 2500 points.
Wii, I got 7800 points.

What do you guys think? Also, some of the games are only worth 100 points. Should I just sell those or put 'em up for trade on goozex anyways? 100 points is about $5 assuming that each 1000 point game is $50.

Anyone know which game would be worth the most to sell on ebay? Any game from Gamecube, Mac, Dreamcast, Xbox/360, Wii, DS, PS1, PS2, PS3.
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Lil, Chris Strazzeri= Canadian player who went to my tournament. Aka -Desh- or Fyasko.

 

[ErciChewman]

it's impossible to define what is moral. half of the world thinks buttsecks is immoral, yet gays certainly don't. The common analogy for anti-piracy is saying it's no different from stealing. It is waaaaaay different from stealing. If a store buys x amount of games/cds/dvds from a company, and you go into that store and steal them, the store loses the money they paid for them, while the people who actually made the product lose nothing. Pirating these same things off the internet only means you didn't give a store like this the chance to make money off of you(part1), and the people who created it didn't get anything in return for it(but should they? see part 2).

part1.
Why should stores be allowed to make huge profits off of things they didn't create? We can't get these things direct from the makers, so our only choice is to get reemed by stores(or pirate). Here's where it gets fuzzy. I'd go into barnes and noble and see a dvd for 27$ and we'd have the SAME one at Costco for 10$. At Costco we sold the complete Sopranos boxset for $130, and best buy sells it for $300! How do you justify that? This means that stores charge virtually whatever they want for things based on how much they think they can get for it from suckers, and they factor things in like demand, for instance. This is, by no coincidence, the same concept for scalping. Buying something, then selling it for a rediculously higher amount (because of demand) and profiting on something you took no part in creating. So is it moral for a store to charge an exorbitant amount of money for something they could have charged much less for? Where do you draw the line?

Part2.
Music and Film in particular, are ART. Even though you could hardly call most film and music being made today "art", that's besides the point. Art is supposed to be free to witness to all, hence the term "starving artist." You don't pay money to look at a particular piece of art, or to listen to the radio, why should metallica be any different. Artists don't really "contribute" to society, their profession is not supposed to make millions of dollars, but our entertainment obsessed society has changed that, unfortunatly. If everyone was an artist, nothing would get done and we would all die. If we all sat around making video games, we'd all die. These are entertainment based things. Entertainment is not necessary for survival of the human race (certainly not britney spears new song, or Grand Theft Auto, or the next hollywood remake of a remake starring Ice Cube). Yet the people in these industries of the past many decades have been making billions and billions in sales for the crap they churn out (which is supposed to be art) and all the while not really doing anything for society. If this sounds extreme, it's because it is. ******* like britney spears and the jonas brothers are making more money than you'll ever dream of. Even if you become a breakthrough scientist and cure cancer, you won't make more money than Britney. It doesn't get anymore extreme than that. So when it all comes down to it, calling pirating immoral, is laughable. There are far more immoral elements at hand in the industries that we pirate from to be all hawty tawty about taking their ****. If you want to support an artist, then BUY their stuff, I DO. Go to their concerts. Musicians would still be millionaires/hundredsofthousandsaires even if all they did was perform concerts and you took away all their record sales. Great film can be made without spending 100 million dollars on CG effects, but if you want to keep seeing movies with CG, then buy 'em. I however, would be perfectly fine with film going back to what it once was. If actors won't work unless they get paid 20 million, then screw em, get a new actor that loves film for the sake of being an artist to do it.

The only reason the government is against pirating, is because it means you didn't pay sales tax. Same with prostitution.

 

[noodles]

when you pirate stuff. your not stealing from the store, your stealing from the company who made the product

 

[ErciChewman]

when you pirate stuff. your not stealing from the store, your stealing from the company who made the product

try reading the second half of the last sentence of the first paragraph >_>

 

[pockyD]

oh dear god

it's impossible to define what is moral. half of the world thinks buttsecks is immoral, yet gays certainly don't.

lol ok

The common analogy for anti-piracy is saying it's no different from stealing. It is waaaaaay different from stealing. If a store buys x amount of games/cds/dvds from a company, and you go into that store and steal them, the store loses the money they paid for them, while the people who actually made the product lose nothing.

Blatant lack of understanding of how retail works. Short version is, yes the company loses money.

Pirating these same things off the internet only means you didn't give a store like this the chance to make money off of you(part1), and the people who created it didn't get anything in return for it(but should they? see part 2).

I can't wait

part1.
Why should stores be allowed to make huge profits off of things they didn't create?

Why should anyone be allowed to sell anything ever? We shouldn't be allowed to buy food from supermarkets because they don't own the cows themselves, right?

We can't get these things direct from the makers, so our only choice is to get reemed by stores(or pirate).

You can buy a lot of things straight from the makers... and in fact, when you can't, it's almost strictly by design; the stores PAY the makers for the right to sell their product. If you don't buy the product from the stores, they don't buy it from the makers, and thus, the makers are losing

Here's where it gets fuzzy. I'd go into barnes and noble and see a dvd for 27$ and we'd have the SAME one at Costco for 10$. At Costco we sold the complete Sopranos boxset for $130, and best buy sells it for $300! How do you justify that? This means that stores charge virtually whatever they want for things based on how much they think they can get for it from suckers, and they factor things in like demand, for instance.

It seems weird that you appear to be aware of supply and demand, yet choose to completely ignore it. Things are more expensive at best buy because it's convenient (if you need something like that, you KNOW they will have it, while that may not be the case for costco; best buy has far more locations; best buy doesn't require a membership). If you think that's too expensive, then go buy it at costco!

Of COURSE stores set whatever prices they want! They also know if they set it "too" high, people won't buy it, they won't make money, and they go out of business. They aren't hoping to make enough to buy the new york yankees every time you buy a DVD.

Your use of the term "suckers" is rather childish... some people are WILLING to pay more for it at best buy because, for example, they can get it now instead of waiting for it to come in the mail after a week. Maybe, like I said above, they want to KNOW that they only need to go to one location to find what they need. Maybe they want the best buy reward points. Who cares? The point is, it's not the producer's fault that the consumer may or may not choose to pay more.

This is, by no coincidence, the same concept for scalping. Buying something, then selling it for a rediculously higher amount (because of demand) and profiting on something you took no part in creating. So is it moral for a store to charge an exorbitant amount of money for something they could have charged much less for? Where do you draw the line?

Scalping is a "problem" because there is a strictly limited quantity of tickets for any event, so when a scalper is holding it, nobody else is capable of buying it. Personally, I don't even see this as a problem, but it would only be comparable if best buy or whatever was the ONLY vendor that sold the product in question

and OF COURSE they could've charged less. We could give away everything for free, do away with the currency system, and live in a socialist paradise. Do you think that's realistic? (really, do you?)

Part2.
Music and Film in particular, are ART. Even though you could hardly call most film and music being made today "art", that's besides the point. Art is supposed to be free to witness to all, hence the term "starving artist."

Even starving artists got paid for their art. They just simply don't get paid until they're done, which is not that different from your basic startup game company // music band // indie movie.

You don't pay money to look at a particular piece of art,

rofl... yes you do

or to listen to the radio,

...because the RADIO STATION pays the band. SOMEBODY'S paying

why should metallica be any different. Artists don't really "contribute" to society, their profession is not supposed to make millions of dollars,

Wow, who are you to say what anyone is "supposed" to make?

but our entertainment obsessed society has changed that, unfortunatly. If everyone was an artist, nothing would get done and we would all die. If we all sat around making video games, we'd all die.

If we all sat around doing ANYTHING but farming, we'd all die

These are entertainment based things. Entertainment is not necessary for survival of the human race (certainly not britney spears new song, or Grand Theft Auto, or the next hollywood remake of a remake starring Ice Cube). Yet the people in these industries of the past many decades have been making billions and billions in sales for the crap they churn out (which is supposed to be art) and all the while not really doing anything for society. If this sounds extreme, it's because it is. ******* like britney spears and the jonas brothers are making more money than you'll ever dream of.

...because they have discovered // created a product that people want. Whether you personally deem that as a relevant product is a pretty ridiculous standard by which to judge whether they "deserve" to get paid

Even if you become a breakthrough scientist and cure cancer, you won't make more money than Britney. It doesn't get anymore extreme than that. So when it all comes down to it, calling pirating immoral, is laughable. There are far more immoral elements at hand in the industries that we pirate from to be all hawty tawty about taking their ****. If you want to support an artist, then BUY their stuff, I DO. Go to their concerts. Musicians would still be millionaires/hundredsofthousandsaires even if all they did was perform concerts and you took away all their record sales. Great film can be made without spending 100 million dollars on CG effects, but if you want to keep seeing movies with CG, then buy 'em. I however, would be perfectly fine with film going back to what it once was. If actors won't work unless they get paid 20 million, then screw em, get a new actor that loves film for the sake of being an artist to do it.

Maybe you're confused about what the problem with piracy is... once again, it's not up to you to decide what they deserve or need. They create a product, and thus, they are given the rights to control its distribution.

If you think $2 is too much to pay for a big mac (hell, I think $0.10 is too much to pay for a big mac), you don't just walk in the back and eat one, then walk back out. You either suck it up or you go somewhere else. Why is the entertainment industry any different? ESPECIALLY since you concede that it's not "necessary for survival", what possible reason could anyone have to take it without payment?

The only reason the government is against pirating, is because it means you didn't pay sales tax.

That's not the "only" reason, though it certainly is one of them. Patents, copyrights, etc. exist because without them, people have no reason to attempt innovation since there is no reward if the next guy over can simply take your idea after you're done with no repercussions

Same with prostitution.

oh my god man

crack was invented to keep the black man down

 

[_V_]

there's a tournament in storrs? >_______________> oops.

Yeah, I thought you said your brother was going to it? I forget...it is at that LAN center that just opened...there is a thread somewhere!

My last tournament! :D Then I be off to the West Coast for Mango training <3 hehehe

 

[ErciChewman]

Blatant lack of understanding of how retail works. Short version is, yes the company loses money.
I worked at filenes for 3 years, and costco for 6 years, pretty sure i know more about retail than you my friend.[/I]

Why should anyone be allowed to sell anything ever? We shouldn't be allowed to buy food from supermarkets because they don't own the cows themselves, right?
I love statements like this, in fact this is why i hate debating online, cuz people like pockyD like to take a statement like this one and make the author associate it to EVERYTHING. First of all pocky, I said HUGE PROFITS, grocery stores don't make 1,000 percent increases on food. Try sticking to the subject here, which is pirateable goods, cds, dvds, and games.

You can buy a lot of things straight from the makers... and in fact, when you can't, it's almost strictly by design; the stores PAY the makers for the right to sell their product. If you don't buy the product from the stores, they don't buy it from the makers, and thus, the makers are losing
Oh, really, so I can buy Britneys next album from her then. Can you get me Peter Jacksons phone number so I can ask him for a copy of his next movie. Really though, so if we don't let stores make exorbitant profit off of people who make an exorbitant amount of money doing essencially nothing of importance, then that makes us immoral? Good job!

It seems weird that you appear to be aware of supply and demand, yet choose to completely ignore it. Things are more expensive at best buy stop right there, things at best buy are not always more expensive than at costco, my point was to single out a particular instance of one store taking advantage of people with a particular itembecause it's convenient (if you need something like that, you KNOW they will have it, while that may not be the case for costco; best buy has far more locations; best buy doesn't require a membership). If you think that's too expensive, then go buy it at costco!I care not about debating sales tips, i'm debating MORALITY(remember?)

Of COURSE stores set whatever prices they want! They also know if they set it "too" high, people won't buy itis $170 higher enough? Cuz that was my point, they won't make money, and they go out of business. They aren't hoping to make enough to buy the new york yankees every time you buy a DVD.


Your use of the term "suckers" is rather childish... some people are WILLING to pay more for it at best buy because, for example, they can get it now instead of waiting for it to come in the mail after a week. Maybe, like I said above, they want to KNOW that they only need to go to one location to find what they need. Maybe they want the best buy reward points. Who cares? The point is, it's not the producer's fault that the consumer may or may not choose to pay more. I'll set a bear trap, it's not my fault if you step in it

Scalping is a "problem" because there is a strictly limited quantity of tickets for any event, so when a scalper is holding it, nobody else is capable of buying it. Personally, I don't even see this as a problem, but it would only be comparable if best buy or whatever was the ONLY vendor that sold the product in questionyou clearly don't see anything wrong with taking advantage of people, funny, since this debate is about MORALITY.

and OF COURSE they could've charged less. We could give away everything for free, do away with the currency system, and live in a socialist paradise. Do you think that's realistic? (really, do you?)FUNNY YOU SHOULD MENTION IT! The MONETARY system is crap and not only shouldn't exist, but the one we have is immoral, unethical, and insane. But for now, let's just stick with my original complaint which was that companies don't have to **** people, but they do anyway because they just don't care, more money for them, right?

Even starving artists got paid for their art. They just simply don't get paid until they're done, which is not that different from your basic startup game company // music band // indie movie.
wait? i just realized you disagreed with every statement i made...LITERALLY. So there's no point in my continuing this debate with you. I don't have the patience to type this much crap, i'm just not half the nerd of you, i can't do it folks. Sorry i even wrote this much.

nevemind, i bolded it

and then gave up cuz this shnoz is way too long winded.

 

[noodles]

is there any such thing as an invisible hole?

 

[Aesir]

All the **** I downloaded I wouldn't have bought, and from that I've bought like half the **** I've downloaded.

I see it as a trial thing, I download a movie watch it if I like it I go buy it. If I don't like it I delete because I'm not wasting my hard drive space for it and I don't buy it.

Frankly how are they losing business? lol

 

[pockyD]

great success! i got the nerd accusation from the guy typing up an essay about consumerism at 8 pm on friday night on a video game forum (and who is proud of spending 6 years at costco? really?)

i'll accept your ad hominem as a concession of defeat

 

[ErciChewman]

great success! i got the nerd accusation from the guy typing up an essay about consumerism at 8 pm on friday night on a video game forum (and who is proud of spending 6 years at costco? really?)

i'll accept your ad hominem as a concession of defeat

The "essay" was about morality >_>

And Costco pays me 46K a year plus full benefits, 4 weeks vaca. and is completely flexible and has allowed me to do other things with my life. For instance, singing in my band. And not just some weekend warrior band, like an "I toured the east coast in a actual performing band" band. I've played in front of over a hundred thousand people in venues from vermont to south carolina including: The Taj Mahal, B.B. Kings in N.Y. City, House of Blues in cleveland, the Norva in Virginia, and Penn State. I mean chicks and hotels and rock and roll isn't cool as posting long drawn out arguments all day on boards like some people, but you know.

And now if you don't mind, i'm going to see my ex-girlfriend cuz she wants some sex. Keep trollin the boards while i'm gone. Don't let me down P dizzle!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBTg12pd5_Ethat's a link to my bands live demo we send to clubs in case you were wondering if i was lying.


p.s.sorry everyone for that, but pocky called out my e-peen on that one and i had to present it.

 

[Cia]

daaaaaaamn!!

i sure made it to this thread on time.

 

[SPAWN]

Chewman's epeen is getting me hard.

****ing owned.

 

[Cort]

I like ignoring everything people write and concluding I've defeated them in an internet-battle. It's really easy and fun.

 

[pockyD]

i'll respond on monday if i remember

note: i'm not surprised that the reply was either "well i'm off to **** some *****es" or "i'm off to get wasted off my ***"

i'm not the one that introduced the nerd accusation

edit: yes I AM a nerd and i like smash, but i don't like writing essays when i'm not at work

 

[Jam Stunna]

Where's AltF4 when you need him?

 

[SPAWN]

Btw, gay buttsecks is not gay unless you're gay.

 

[Mogwai]

Btw, gay buttsecks is not gay unless you're gay.

ahem...

you guys don't understand

no homo is the ultimate get out of gay free card

i could bust into dustin's house, **** him in the *** while giving him a reach around and thinking of cactuar having sex with keanu reeves.

no homo


NO LONGER GAY

it's only not gay if you say no homo

 

[SPAWN]

****, Mogwai figured it out.

Edit: No homo is really annoying. My friend Jake said "no homo" after he had said something really bad. My friends and I then all had a discussion about saying "no homo" disregards the gay things you did/said. Unfortunately, my friend Greg isn't gay but he can be very touchy, so he started touching Jake heavily and just kept saying things like, "Oh so if I do this, it's not gay, no homo" and kept laughing hysterically. I don't know if the girls in the room enjoyed it or were mortified.

 

[Budai578]

Eric you have to let me know when your shows are, I keep missing them! You sound so much like Zack it's scary. Also, the band as a whole is really tight and sounds just like RATM. Since I never got to see them live, I definitely need to see you guys.

One quick note on the previous topic:

Cable retail is disgusting. Monster Cable vs. Generic Cable

Little to no difference in A/V quality.

 

[DarkDragoon]

Hey Marc, I got some Coupons today.

>_> Thanks?

Also:
Taking requests for skins for Brawl Characters. I've successfully ripped all of the Brawl Model Data and Skin data, so I figured I'd go to town on them.

-DD

 

[Smooth Criminal]

>_>

Nevermind. I'm well aware my job sucks, but it's what I do to get by.

Smooth Criminal

 

[SPAWN]

What coupons, Nick? I honestly don't know what you're talking about. Please elaborate sir.

 

[Cia]

HAHAHAHA.. this thread is ridiculous

 

[Cort]

high five @ nerds

 

[ErciChewman]

i'll respond on monday if i remember
yeah, okay pal
note: i'm not surprised that the reply was either "well i'm off to **** some *****es" or "i'm off to get wasted off my ***"
good one, doesn't change the fact that that's what i did.
i'm not the one that introduced the nerd accusation
you're right. but me calling you a nerd.....ON A VIDEO GAME FORUM is nothing. i'm here too which means that i'm a nerd too. it's like Rick James calling Charlie Murphy darkness, so coming from a nerd it shouldn't have been too offensive, and it really wasn't meant to be personal. However your remark about my job was unacceptable and (attempted to be) way below the belt.
edit: yes I AM a nerd and i like smash, but i don't like writing essays when i'm not at work

have a good day guys