pockyD
Smash Legend
what's screwed up about barlw FD?
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Zombie Lucille Ball
Smash Master
the ledges?
at least half of delphino's transformations make rainbow cruise look like DL64
at least half of delphino's transformations make rainbow cruise look like DL64
pockyD
Smash Legend
what's wrong with them? they work better than melee battlefield's for sure
I don't really get why people complain about the autosweetspot (I like it a lot, actually) making recovery too easy, but then at the same time complain about getting trapped under FD
not that i know whether you personally have been complaining about the autosweetspot, but that's a common point of contention for anti-barlw folks that i don't understand at all
BECAUSE WE WANT RECOVERING TO BE MORE DIFFICULT BUT NOT THAT DIFFICULT, duh!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zombie Lucille Ball
Smash Master
well the melee battlefield ledges are pretty much the lylat ledges, and I don't complain about those (I actually really like lylat).
the FD lip isn't super duper gay or anything but is unnecessarily dumb.
I don't complain about the auto sweetspot. personally I'm not a gigantic fan of it but I can see how that's just a personal preference thing and it's not inherently bad. I mainly just don't like the lag when grabbing it.
pockyD
Smash Legend
it may or may not be "unnecessary", but it's not strictly worse - it's just different. they're not glitchy or anything, they're just slightly inconvenient... but with the autosweetspot, it's not any "harder" to recover well on barlw FD as opposed to melee FD - it just requires the different mindset. autosweetspot replaces the "advantage" of riding the FD wall for any character who can do it (sorry wario)
and melee battlefield had the fun stuff where if you're too far in, you can't grab the edge (most commonly experienced by peaches coming in with up-b from the side)
and melee battlefield had the fun stuff where if you're too far in, you can't grab the edge (most commonly experienced by peaches coming in with up-b from the side)
Zombie Lucille Ball
Smash Master
I guess the auto sweetspot balances it out. But it's still not ideal... maybe it's the fact that, as mentioned, there's a lack of real NEUTRAL stages in brawl that makes it frustrating.
Getting battlefield'd is the worst, I never play on that stage I always strike it
Getting battlefield'd is the worst, I never play on that stage I always strike it
Real Neutrals don't exist in Melee either -_-...
thumbswayup
Smash Master
What's awful for me is that there are really only 3 neutrals because everyone immediately bans FD against me since I'm Diddy >_> It didn't matter in Melee if a C Falcon had FD banned against him because he had Stadium and Dreamland to CP if he lost, two amazing stages. All I have left is Smashville and if I win there round 1 and lose somewhere else round 2 you can bet your *** they're not gonna let me CP it again so I have no choice but to play on gay Yoshi's or Battlefield.
pockyD
Smash Legend
aside from the fact that neutrals aren't "neutral" to begin with, they CLEARLY aren't "neutral" if they are by far your best stages to begin with
and also, that's more of a character john than a stage john; "my character is only good on two stages" is not an indictment of the stage list; it's the character quality (note: i don't know anything about diddy kong so i'm going by hearsay and what you just said)
and also, that's more of a character john than a stage john; "my character is only good on two stages" is not an indictment of the stage list; it's the character quality (note: i don't know anything about diddy kong so i'm going by hearsay and what you just said)
Prince Of Fire
Smash Lord
I hear ya dude. I love Marth. Hes the only reason why I play Brawl.
No, they didn't. You're just bad at recovering? I hated FD the first week I got Brawl but then realized....oh wow, all I have to do is space (kind of like sweet spotting in Melee) and poof! problem solved!
Auto Sweet spotting is a horrible idea because it takes away edge guarding which is a good 50% of the point of melee. In all seriousness though....if you think about it would non auto sweet spotting even make sense/fit with Brawl? Personally, I think l cancelling and all that lagless mumbo jumbo would only make Brawl worse. You'd have to di sect that game completely in order to make it feel right. Brawl feels right as is....its not amazing by any means...but it works.
thumbswayup
Smash Master
It's the fact that there are only FOUR stages on random to begin with and the alarming majority of the time one of the players is going to ban one of them. The neutral stages are more even and fair than CPs which is why they're the neutral stages. Why is it good to have less options for a CP? Why should I have to be forced to play on a neutral I don't like just to avoid picking a stage that's going to screw me over regardless of who my character is if I'm up against someone who camps hardcore?
SwiftBass
Smash Hero
/sigh
thumbs get out while you can......pocky has the WORST stage logic evar. it'll make you wanna kill babies
thumbs get out while you can......pocky has the WORST stage logic evar. it'll make you wanna kill babies
/sigh
thumbs get out while you can......swiftbass doesn't know what logic is.
thumbs get out while you can......swiftbass doesn't know what logic is.
thumbswayup
Smash Master
*gets out*
pockyD
Smash Legend
it all really just boils down to a misconception of the term "fair" (and consequentially, "neutral")
-Darc-
Heir to the Monado
THUMBS! get yourself WAYUP out of there!
HAR
HAR
kill me
HAR
HAR
kill me
_V_
Smash Ace
/sigh
I <3 SwiftBass...one time I played him and he made me better...only other person that did that was Mr. Mike Brookman
I <3 SwiftBass...one time I played him and he made me better...only other person that did that was Mr. Mike Brookman
pockyD
Smash Legend
the shortest version is that if any one of the stages were truly "fair", then it would be the only stage used for game 1
SwiftBass
Smash Hero
lol @ the pic but your argument in this debate is poorly formed at best Swift.
SwiftBass
Smash Hero
as an argument its poor but its not...no intention of aruging just trying to get a fellow smasher out of an exploding building or for this matter a derailing train....
its a statement/opinion so ther -_-
thanks _V_ too bad I cant teach you things now =(
its a statement/opinion so ther -_-
thanks _V_ too bad I cant teach you things now =(
thumbswayup
Smash Master
LMAO I laughed WAY too hard at that.
_V_
Smash Ace
If we get to see each other again, I am sure you could teach me something!
Noodles, I'm going to have to wait until tomorrow to get the SD card, so maybe either then or this weekend you could help me...it would be amazing <3
Noodles, I'm going to have to wait until tomorrow to get the SD card, so maybe either then or this weekend you could help me...it would be amazing <3
pockyD
Smash Legend
nobody's forced to keep replying to me
if the argument bores them, they can just stop reading, i don't really care
AxelSlam
Smash Ace
_milktea
Smash Lord
omg..six hours in the dark room -___-;...
my legs...
edit//i just stuck my hand in ketchup
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzTpsuyxLz8
is a neat song remix thingy
my legs...
edit//i just stuck my hand in ketchup
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzTpsuyxLz8
is a neat song remix thingy
Zombie Lucille Ball
Smash Master
I pulled an all nighter in the dark room the night before my photography final. from like 9:30pm - 7am... I was ****ed up for a bit.....
re:stages... lol I'm glad I gtfo of the thread when I did
re:stages... lol I'm glad I gtfo of the thread when I did
thumbswayup
Smash Master
All nighters are the worst. I keep telling myself this is the LAST TIME I do it, but they keep happening a few times a year >_> **** is so painful. I feel like I'm gonna die the whole next day.
VCU will defeat UCLA.
ChRed2AKrisp
Smash Master
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
YESSSS. I love Pendulum. So awesome. Drum&Bass ftw.
-DD
'ZeD'
Smash Rookie
Pendulum rocks. I think my favorite out of their stuff is that remix of Prodigy's "Voodoo People", that song is amazing.
Also, check out Matrix and Futurebound if you haven't before. They're also really great D&B.
Also, check out Matrix and Futurebound if you haven't before. They're also really great D&B.
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
:D YAY!
I 4 stocked Spawn with Lucario. LOL.
Then he get revenge in a rematch later. Kid picks this **** up quick. 0%SD Johns though.
:D Fun and Easy!
>.> Thats what I like to hear!
"Auto" L Canceling takes up less codespace than Manual L cancel, so thats the one they had to go with. They have considered adding "M" Cancels, which if done correctly give you 0 Lag, but if you do it wrong, you get full lag.lol yeah I think they should take out the auto l canceling to make it more challenging. Then again I could just play Melee if I wanted a challenge haha.
Brawl+ is strictly for a stupid fun time imo. It seriously is hilarious finding all these stupid new combos that actually work. I did a f tilt, mortar slide, up tilt, up air, up air combo on a Sheik with Snake ROFL I laughed so hard. And Sonic is actually DIFFICULT to use now and he's pretty good. He's like twice as fast as he was in Brawl and he falls a lot faster so there's a risk in everything you do. It's pretty exciting using him. Falcon is fun, but he's one of my Melee mains so I'm not gonna use him much in Brawl+. I'm only going to use Brawl characters in it because that's the point, to play Melee using Brawl charactersso I'll stick with Snake, Sonic, and Lucario mostly.
Also;
>=[ No you're stupid fun. There are lots of things about Brawl+ that are untapped, and so many different things to work with. Its a whole new game and a whole lot deeper. And Planking doesn't work. Even if it did, it wouldn't last for long because the devs of Brawl+ are constantly rebalancing it all to make sure there is no glaring problems with any characters' construction.
>=P Spawn and I have a top secret Brawl+ tournament in the works.
D: Nope. BrawlEX has textures and a buncha other little features that don't effect the actual game, but if you wanna play Brawl+ with custom skins atm, you need to download/burn a hacked Brawl ISO.
If by "Get" you mean "obtain", then yes. Otherwise I'd rent it until you feel satisfied with it. It gets awfully repetitive, but it is definitely a step in the right direction for the Wii.
>_> Brawl+ is a lot more closer to melee than Brawl is. Especially with Hitstun. Seriously, after taking 15 minutes to readjust his timing with C.Falcon, Spawn was tearing **** up.
-DD
thumbswayup
Smash Master
Chum
Smash Apprentice
you have to download brawl+ now? I thought you just loaded the codes throguh ocarina or gecko.
I think hacking games is cool, it's interesting to see what people can do with time and ingenuity.
Prince Of Fire
Smash Lord
I played Brawl + tonight with noodles and really didn't excite me all that much.
I mean its definitely better....but I'd rather play melee because Melee just feels better and more generic. I'd also like to play Brawl over it at this point because it's just what I'm used to. Fox and Falcon were cool but snake felt really weird and marth can't exactly combo too well.....hes just faster.
I mean its definitely better....but I'd rather play melee because Melee just feels better and more generic. I'd also like to play Brawl over it at this point because it's just what I'm used to. Fox and Falcon were cool but snake felt really weird and marth can't exactly combo too well.....hes just faster.