Community Patch Notes v1.1.0!

[Matías Avilés]

Lucas PK Thunder Goes considerably faster plus Sour Fair From 8->9, please confirm.

 

[FlynnCL]

Edit: Oops! I was just extremely lucky.

 

[Excision7]

Falco has a buff where at 0% he can do this that I just connected ~ down throw into fsmash and it is a true combo by falco

 

[hypersonicJD]

Is it me or Sonic's Fair is faster? I really feel like Sonic got an air speed buff. I feel him rather speedy right now with his aerials. Maybe it's just me though. Can anyone else confirm any Sonic changes?

 

[zblaqk]

It seems like Samus' homing missiles move faster. Can anyone confirm?

 

[Nysyr]

Jeez, stop posting about character changes that have been confirmed to recieve none. Save us all from scrolling thru ****posts.

From Reddit:

CONFIRMED UNCHANGED (PROJECTILES, LUMA, PIKMIN ARE NOT INCLUDED):
Mario
Falco
Bowser Jr.
Villager
Pikachu
Olimar
Dark Pit
Jigglypuff
ROB
Rosalina
Samus
Lucario
Mega Lucario
Giga Bowser
Giga Mac
Wario-Man

 

[Nu~]

http://opensa.dantarion.com/s4/raw/diff-128-144/pacman.html
Can someone translate this for me please?

 

[Ikes]

Generic.

please, go sit in the corner and think about your life

 

[judiciousclown]

have the sheik fair nerfs actually changed anything significant? Are the low percent fair strings still a thing?

 

[JustKindaBoredUKno]

Any word on the shiek+G&W Bucket?

 

[Neptune Shiranui]

Robin's up-b on the first elwind slash seems to have more horizontal movement. Can anyone else confirm this change?

 

[ミスティック Speed]

us fox mains may have lost jab cancels but what we got can not be described by words

s...s....sh...SHINE?!

 

[Blobface]

Ganon's D-smash got some pretty big knockback changes.

 

[Raijinken]

us fox mains may have lost jab cancels but what we got can not be described by words

I thought the knockback on that felt changed to me, but I don't Fox enough to have relied on my own opinion there.

 

[hotdogtaco4321]

Do not test damage on Bowser Jr., he receives differing damage depending if you hit the car or him

I know that but I find it weird how he has a specific pattern of damage he takes from it

 

[Mario766]

Ike's Up Air has less KBG and has a higher BKB.

According to Dantarion, BKB is now at 37, so +9 from 28 and KBG is now 5e *explain pls* from 64.

 

[godogod]

According to this:

http://opensa.dantarion.com/s4/raw/diff-128-144/littlemac.html

Little Mac's fully-charged Neutral-B's hitbox starts up a frame later, but the early sweetspot is out for two extra frames, and the later hitbox lingers for four extra frames at the end.

Also, Forward-B's hitbox lingers longer, from five frames to seven.

How in teh world are you reading that? Can you do Mewtwo's please? Only thing we know for sure is forward throw buff.

 

[AvengerV]

us fox mains may have lost jab cancels but what we got can not be described by words

Awesome! Shine Spike!!

 

[Nysyr]

Ike's Up Air has less KBG and has a higher BKB.

According to Dantarion, BKB is now at 37, so +9 from 28 and KBG is now 5e *explain pls* from 64.

Its in Hex.

40 -> 55

100 -> 94

 

[Megaman765]

Unless there was some change to the one sticking in the ground, this has been doable since at least the previous patch.

But I agree, it's a nice projectile.

Yeah there has been a change

 

[Sir Tundra]

s...s....sh...SHINE?!

that's right

I thought the knockback on that felt changed to me, but I don't Fox enough to have relied on my own opinion there.

I thought it was just a coincidence but when i tried it again it actually sends the opponent downward just like a shine spike. the knockback increases at higher percents

edit: thx @ AvengerV

 

[Kodystri]

Gunner is super good now. Easy high+ IMO.

I believe I had my grenade get cancelled with a hitbox, but I need to test more.

Super Good? I only noticed Uair and Up-B2 changes.

 

[Pink'd]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Fox and Falco and possibly others have a strange thing going on with their upsmash. If you dash and then immediately upsmash, Fox/Falco slides forward slightly. If you dash and then do a jump-canceled upsmash, FiFoxx/Falco slides on further than the regular dash. Tested on both 3Ds and Wii U, and it also works with Marth, too, it seems. Is this something new, and can anyone else do it, or am I just an idiot for pointing out something that's been around forever?

 

[Nobie]

You're looking at the total damage value listed in the attack info at the side of the screen, but you're not looking at the damage values shown at the bottom of the screen.

Ah, gotcha. Never mind then!

 

[NateLinhart]

Can someone test Bowser's fair frame data and ending lag carefully.

 

[HeavyLobster]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Fox and Falco and possibly others have a strange thing going on with their upsmash. If you dash and then immediately upsmash, Fox/Falco slides forward slightly. If you dash and then do a jump-canceled upsmash, FiFoxx/Falco slides on further than the regular dash. Tested on both 3Ds and Wii U, and it also works with Marth, too, it seems. Is this something new, and can anyone else do it, or am I just an idiot for pointing out something that's been around forever?

Everyone can do this and it has been around forever.

 

[Radical Larry]

Someone check Sheik's F-Air END lag. I know the landing lag has some delay now, but I think the ending lag has also been affected and altered. Plus, I think some of her attacks and grabs have altered properties via knockback.

 

[BeatMax Sakuraba]

Dr. Mario's Back Air does 13% instead of 12%.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

We're there any changes to any of the Kid Icarus characters.

 

[Nu~]

So Shiek is essentially the same.
Nice...

 

[Pegasus Knight]

What the. How do you read this stuff? I understand some of it is hex values, but how do you figure out which attack is which? If someone can help me make heads or tails of it I'd be glad to go through and figure out a few characters' changes.

 

[Pazzo.]

us fox mains may have lost jab cancels but what we got can not be described by words

Seriously, can we get a second confirmation?

 

[LimitCrown]

Dr. Mario's Back Air does 13% instead of 12%.

Dr. Mario's back air attack dealt 13.44% damage beforehand.

 

[Radical Larry]

Quick question, is Link's recovery higher now?

So Shiek is essentially the same.
Nice...

Sheik got a nerf or two, and I think her grab game isn't as efficient anymore.

 

[BrosUnited]

We're there any changes to any of the Kid Icarus characters.

Palutena's fair went from 7% to 8%

 

[Captain Norris]

sigh of course they nerfed Captain Falcon again. Gosh I am getting slightly irritated.

 

[Shady Penguin]

I thought Duck Hunt's uair got buffed to now do 12% total instead of 9%, but I just found out the thread on the Duck Hunt board incorrectly wrote that it used to do 9 when it always did 12.

 

[Johnny Heart Gold]

us fox mains may have lost jab cancels but what we got can not be described by words

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees nOW JUST CHANGE THAT VOICE AND i'M READY!!!

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Palutena's fair went from 7% to 8%

Sweet

 

[Megaman765]

Did meta knight always slide backwards while hitting people with his jab? I don't recall him ever doing that in the past.