Community Mafia: El final

[X1-12]

I wan't to lynch about 4 different people today, although depending how the roxy/ronike thing pans out It may likely be one of those two

 

[Swiss]

X1 just vote Roxy.

I cbf trapping him anymore. Happy to lynch him.

Gordito vote Roxy.

I know you two are town, you two know you are town, EVERYONE knows you two are so just bandwagon this guy.

 

[Swiss]

Lol @ me just saying "f*ck proving it, just lynch him".

This day ain't doin us any favours, imo.

 

[Ronike]

unvote.
Wanna hear what roxy has to say first.

That's quite the swing swiss

 

[Swiss]

cbf pinning him. Never had you as scum. Wanted him to make a big *** case on you after he wanted other people lynched first - going for easiest lynch etc etc

Why am i explaining myself? Swiss is worried he looks scummy. Omg no-one will NK him now, will they. OR WILL THEY?

 

[Overswarm]

I don't agree with Swiss' "lynch him quickly", but **** all if I don't want it to happen.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

I agree with OS about Swiss's lynch him quickly stance.

 

[Swiss]

K.

Dancer @ Tom - where u @?

 

[Kirby King]

Tom has requested replacement. Since there are no replacements, he will be replaced by Modkilled Tom in 72 hours, provided no new replacements become available. Per the rules in the opening post, if (and only if) Tom is town-aligned, this will end the Day.

If you are interested in replacing, PM me. If you know someone who is interested in replacing, you may inform them that this game is in need of replacements, but you obviously may not disclose anything else about the game that you could not discuss with an ordinary non-player (i.e. anything)

 

[Ronike]

@mod, what happens if we lynchsomeone before 72 hours?

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

I say we wait for mod kill, or kill the replacement.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I say there's nothing that Tom did that I'd think was scummy.

I say that it's a waste of time killing the replacement, because who knows how good it is?

I say that you just have some weird hate toward Tom, and you shouldn't just let that make you want to kill the replacement.

Why NOT get a replacement?

 

[X1-12]

Just play the game normally till then, if you can get someone to replace in then do so. Beyond that just play the game

 

[Overswarm]

I say we wait for mod kill, or kill the replacement.

Interesting. Why?

 

[Ronike]

He doesn't like Tom OS...

On an interesting meta note, I could totally see Tom replacing out because he won't be able to help his scumbuddies. I feel he would be more willing to replace out as scum than just coast as town. Not instantly lynchable of course, but his replacement better impress me.

 

[Purple]

I highly doubt you can find any post before I made this point that this doesn't hold true for besides the color thing. And that's anti-town.

That point isn't anti-town, it's just a matter of following rules dude. How do you know this is anti-town anyways? Are you saying that x1-12 is assured town? If anything, this point out is entirely out of context, not anti-town or town. Considering this is something that has to do with the ruleset, and x1-12 could be town OR mafia, this is a null read if any.

How and in what way is this pro-town in any way? You say it's unfair, well not really. Chances are the mod has taken precautionary actions, such as not giving out colors or having the town color in the OP.

This is something you personally cannot be sure about, and you can also not assume considering you aren't the mod.

And if not, well then we get a free mafia member. 1. Single. It's not like we get the whole team, so its hardly game destroying, so there's no real reason for you to be flipping out this much. Unless you're scum tryna protect your scumbuddies.

One mafia member is enough. Think about it, we're willing to sacrifice around three townies for a mafia member (and that's for a relatively smalll setup). If we got a mafia member, that gives us a mislynch among other things, turning the game sharply into town's favor, which is not fair, period. Why can't a person want the game to be fair.

4 different posts where you admit yourself that you don't care about this game [well 3 and 1 that's enough of a troll to show you don't care about this game]. People that "don't care" about the game tend to be mafia giving excuses for not contributing, mafia that is bored because they don't have to hunt for town or their scumbuddies are boring or w/e, or in worst case an utterly useless townie.

Not caring about a game doesn't mean you won't point out things that are fishy, my reasons for not being interested really come from clashing playstyles. I've made multiple efforts to post things that I have noticed from multiple players. You say utterly worthless town, however can you really say it's true even at this point in the game? Yes there have been moments of trolling, yes there have been moments of boredom, however there have been moments of questioning, solid voting that i've stuck with [we'll get to that later too], and generally decent play.

Before I made this post, find me one place where you contributed to the game. I dare ya.

Will do in an EBWOP

You don't have to vote to jump on a wagon. Saying your behind the wagon, throwing suspicion onto the wagon, or even just nudging people, its all the same as jumping on the wagon, its just less traceable, so MAFIA tends to do it.

Alright then, can you say that I'm the only person who's nudged in one direction and faked to another? I nudged towards overswarm all day yesterday, while moving towards others the same way, however I actually voted overswarm as well yesterday, showing that I did infact, think he needed to die at the time.

Now for examples:

3 wagons here, me Gordito, and swords.

Two of these people are people i've said are plays of the day (one of them I'm currently voting)

Nudging Tom and OS wagons here.

Person I voted and an inactive

OS and Swiss

Person I voted and someone who posted in a playstyle i didn't agree with, however he gave good insight so i dropped it (he also thought OS was scummy a bit :3)

Nudging GBoy.

Said was a play of the day.

So that's 7 wagons you've nudged or been on in spirit. And I'm not even counting the multiple times you've tried to push OS [3] and Swords [at least 4, if not 5]. So don't go sayin you aren't jumpin on every wagon.

I still hate Overswarm to death lololol (not really though)

and i'm voting swords.

Now just to address your most recent post in full:

A] Why would you collapse anything, it just makes it hard for some people to read?

unimportant

B] This game is NOT inactive at all. So don't go complainin. Certain people are inactive, but the game itself has plenty of activity to draw scum tells from.

Hypothetical question, if scum is inactive and town is talking amongst each other, what are you pulling scum information from?

C] There's ignorance in every game, so again, not a valid point. In addition, just because people don't agree with you does not mean they are ignorant, just that you've made a bad point. Therefore, I doubt there's anywhere near as much ignorance as you think there is.

It's not the fact that they don't agree persay, it's that it's -ignored-. That's what ignorance is. There's a different between reading, comprehending, and straight up not agreeing, than ignorance.

D] There's no such thing as looking too hard into something

Yes there is. There's actually an interesting article that you could read about looking too deeply into things, but i'll save it for out of game.

E] He didn't say he WON'T vote swords, just that he is reluctant due to the people on the wagon. There's a big difference. I do believe he has agreed the swords is scummy, just that we have other roads to explore ATM.

So will you ride on that fact that he didn't say won't? What if he never votes swords? He's already moving towards me isn't he?

F] Things are missed in every game, that's why you bring them up later. Invalid point.

That is true; noted.

G] If you hate this game so much, ****in replace out instead of complaining.

I don't replace out of games I have the ability to post/ coherently play in, I suck it up and play eventually.

A] Fluff IS anti-town. Its distracting from points, and it makes it impossible to draw scumtells. Hence, anti town

Then almost everyone at one point has been anti-town this game.

B] So you're saying the color thing is in no way anti-town? o_O

*looks up at first comment*. I'd consider it a null-read at least.

 

[Ronike]

I don't have time to go point to point with you right now or tomorrow [gf's b-day], but let me make a few points:

Congratulations, you explained why you were on 7 different wagons. The point was you tried to cover up the fact that you WERE on so many different wagons by saying you weren't. Lynch All Liars.

You still haven't explained how the color thing was pro-town, wanting to follow the rules [which it wasn't, the mod said it wasn't breaking] isnt good enough.

As for the not being the mod part, the fact that he allowed the color thing is a **** good sign he saw it coming.

Alright then, can you say that I'm the only person who's nudged in one direction and faked to another? I nudged towards overswarm all day yesterday, while moving towards others the same way, however I actually voted overswarm as well yesterday, showing that I did infact, think he needed to die at the time.

Wow... crazy scummy part here. That's exactly what scum does in order to keep their options open.

Im comfortable enough putting my vote back now. Vote Roxy

@mod, what happens if we lynch someone before our 72 hours are up? 72 hours after daybreak will he modilled? Or at night? Or what?

 

[Purple]

That's not a lie really, thinking someone is scummy =/= being on their wagon. Also the two people who were plays literally just happened d2. Note that no one else was a play, merely noting of scummy actions.

THe point wasn't for it to be pro-town, it was for it to be done out of game, out of context.

Yes, because looking at eveyrone suspciously, and voting who you tihnk is most suspcious is scummy.

 

[X1-12]

Before I made this post, find me one place where you contributed to the game. I dare ya.

Will do in an EBWOP

hmm? this was 1 hour+ ago

 

[Purple]

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=10992878&postcount=252

 

[Ronike]

Good job. Now find 3 more. That's a twentieth of your total posts from before I told you to step it up. Shouldnt be a problem.

 

[X1-12]

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=10992878&postcount=252

I like how this post just soon after this one of yours

At least i'm looking clean and legit, i'll post some **** tomorrow when people stop barbarically tunneling again.

I can see some tunnelling going on for OS in your post

Good job. Now find 3 more. That's a twentieth of your total posts from before I told you to step it up. Shouldnt be a problem.

Much as I agree with this, it does seem like he's just proved you wrong and you're changing the rules to make him wrong

I get bad feels from Roxy's big post coupled with other things of course

Unvote:
Vote: Roxy

L-2 I beleive

 

[Ronike]

That was my plan from the start. Believe me or not.

 

[Purple]

This includes questions to other members or actual info.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=10976566&postcount=134
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=10995006&postcount=321
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11030914&postcount=586
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11032742&postcount=601

 

[Purple]

here's another

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11038938&postcount=634

 

[Purple]

EBWOP: That's L-1, thinking of killing myself but that'd be anti-town.

 

[X1-12]

go for it mate

 

[Kirby King]

Rockin replaces Tom.

Day 2 Vote Count
Dark Pappy Charles (5): Overswarm, Swiss, Sworddancer., Ronike, X1-12
SwordsRbroken (2): Dark Pappy Charles, GorditoBoy69
Rockin (1): Sephiroths Masamune
GorditoBoy69 (1): SwordsRbroken

Not voting: Rockin

It takes 6 out of 10 votes to lynch.

The deadline is Tuesday, August 31 at 11:59:59 PM ET.

 

[Purple]

Rockin help me out of this jam plz ;-;

 

[Overswarm]

Or vote for him, either or. We've got a week so no biggie either way.

 

[Rockin]

OKay, gonna try and read the thread and get caught up in things as best as I can.

also

EBWOP: That's L-1, thinking of killing myself but that'd be anti-town.

you better not hammer yourself. It's not only anti-town, but frown upon. Not to mention I will most likely blacklist you from any of my games.

I hate quitters.

 

[Overswarm]

Rockin, your role doesn't happen to list as "drama queen", does it?

Town hammering themselves can sometimes be a good case. Rare, but possible. Hypothetical example being he is town and whoever hammers him dies; he knows he will die from someone but doesn't know who is scum, so he hammers himself so no other townies die. Even more commonly, a standstill could occur that results in no lynch. The following day, town is in the same place they were before except mafia killed someone. Killing yourself could be good there too. Think outside the box, mang.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Interesting. Why?

Because I doubt any pro town player would coast, hammer, and conveniently only post substance when pressure was applied.

Also I agree with Ronkie about how he could have replaced out because he couldn't help his scum mates.

Other than meta, he has not contributed to scum hunting.

Note: I'm not tunneling, I do notice the other players actions. I do however think Tom's slot is the lynch of the day.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Hey guys, I'm still here.

GBoy, the reason I ask you those questions is because I'm worried that you'll trying to buddy everyone who you consider to be the best townies. Swiss you have stated to have thought to be very pro town, if you remember yesterDay I accused you of buddying Swiss. Well now I think you'll buddying Tom (err. . . or at least you were) as well. Kinda bugged about how you said that he "earned your respect" when he defended himself against Seph. Like, what? So what if he defended himself, that's kinda what people do when they're attacked. You kinda seem slimy in a couple of ways (like going after easy targets, wagon hopping (yesturDay)) and now buddying. Ronike was another player who's been here awhile, so I wanted to see if you'll try to buddy him to.

Buddying is kinda minor stuff admittedly, but still there. Also, I think the role pm color thing is kinda dumb, not really using that to make up my mind about you. fos GBoy Would vote you but I wanta put my vote somewhere else now.

However, this Day is dragging and, tbh, I wouldn't make too much of a fuss if Roxy was lynched now. Still wanta look at some more people though, like Swiss. unvote I'm with Roxy here, not one of the people who totally like him. vote Swiss

 

[Swiss]

f*ck. A vote. This pressure is totally legit.

*scum slip*


Ronike - in your own time.

Had summat else to say too, brb.

 

[Swiss]

EBWOP: That's L-1, thinking of killing myself but that'd be anti-town.

Why would you make this post straight after posting 'evidence' in your favour? It don't be makin' sense.

Either: You don't believe in the evidence, in which case you truly haven't scumhunted = Scum

OR

You made that post as a gambit to try and appear town = Scum


Jesus Christ I'm good.

 

[Purple]

Why would you make this post straight after posting 'evidence' in your favour? It don't be makin' sense.

Becuase my evidence has been pushed aside multiple times this game, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again.

Either: You don't believe in the evidence, in which case you truly haven't scumhunted = Scum

Why does it matter if -I- believe it, the purpose it to make other believe it to hinder a bad decision.

Jesus Christ I'm good.

nah.

 

[Swiss]

Weak.


10char

 

[X1-12]

when you don't beleive your own defence its hard to convince other of it

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Hey guys, I'm still here.

GBoy, the reason I ask you those questions is because I'm worried that you'll trying to buddy everyone who you consider to be the best townies. Swiss you have stated to have thought to be very pro town, if you remember yesterDay I accused you of buddying Swiss. Well now I think you'll buddying Tom (err. . . or at least you were) as well.

I didn't mean to give off the vibe of buddying. In fact, wasn't it Ronike who voted Seph?


[QUOTE[Kinda bugged about how you said that he "earned your respect" when he defended himself against Seph. Like, what? So what if he defended himself, that's kinda what people do when they're attacked.

Yea, but first of all, he convinced me that any thought of him hammering being scummy that I had was wrong. And second of all, I thought he'd be more active (which was wrong -_-)

You kinda seem slimy in a couple of ways (like going after easy targets, wagon hopping (yesturDay)) and now buddying.

Easy targets have obvious reasons to be gone after. They just happen to give me a reason to want to go after them. That's why I've approached "easy" (which is subjective) targets. In fact, the easiest target today seems to be Roxy. I haven't even voted him today. And I don't really think I will until we're relatively near the deadline. But, I can't predict the future. All we know for sure is that I've yet to vote the current "easy" target.

Ronike was another player who's been here awhile, so I wanted to see if you'll try to buddy him to.

Idk. I might AGREE with some of his views later on (like how I liked his wall of a post on Roxy), but if you want to call that buddying, then you call that buddying.