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and are really bad. But that´s just my opinion. 
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I'm not at all a fan of
Just have very empty movesets and are extremely floaty
Thaaat's just me though
, and I will not try her. I have met about 22 in for glory. I won all those matches, and I two stocked the opponent in 19 of those matches. They were either terrible or the is a terrible character. All in all, they where terrible.
and I 2 stocked all of them
, but I would agree she doesn't seem that great. Aside from her I would put in there as well. He doesn't seem to be nearly as good as he was in the last game.
Damn :/ Who did you two stocked them as?Not a shock whatsoever
Only ran into about 3
Absolutely pitiful :/
I don´t think Olimar is bad, one of my friends has a mean Olimar! It depends on how you use him. But that is just my opinion.I played a decent
Yeah definitelyI played a decent
out of the occasional few I've encountered and even then he couldn't keep up
That I've played as:
That I've played against:
Yes, yes I do
I'm not sure he's been nerfed to a degree where he's considered really badjust
too much nerf in marth u_u
One of my friends, who´s a melee Marth main, had a nice summation about Marth in Smash 4.just
too much nerf in marth u_u
, which sucks cause I loved him so much in brawl. And there are a couple things about that they changed from brawl that I need to get used to but that's about it. is one of the best characters in the game, IMO, , and with custom moveset is pretty damn fun and not sucky to play, but her default moveset isn't that great IMO.
LikeNot a big fan of
voice?
is flat out terrible, everything that was good about him has been nerfed to hell, suddenly he's left with a terrible air-game, abysmal landing lag, and no way to properly rack up percentages. has a lot of trouble getting opponents away from him because of the lack of a proper f-tilt and n-air. He is also extremely predictable. just doesn't have many good things about her, her u-smash is great but that's about it, otherwise she's very slow and doesn't hit especially hard to make up for it. doesn't have good hitboxes at all, she needs to get all the way into people to do anything. On top of that she hits as hard as a pillow, it's so hard to KO with her. She also has the worst recovery in the game, at least Little Mac's can hurt you, WFT's goes almost no distance and is so gimpable., though I wouldn't call them horrible. does really seem to be destroyed. Though I haven't met too many opponents picking him and I don't know how good they'd be compared to me with any other character, but they all performed very poorly. He's slow and clumsy and there seems to be little room for effective comboing. Being very vulnerable to easy punishment is his main problem I'd say.is still very disappointing to play. In 4 player matches he can shine by easily blasting a bunch of people into the skies with a single smash, but that's all he has going for him. In 1vs1 scenarios he lacks fast attacks with little knockback to rack up some damage or interrupt enemies. Also I am not a fan of relying on two recovery moves that either go (almost) exclusively horizontal or vertical.
in for glory. They where all terrible. I´ve battled many skilled falco players in melee tho.
: This game seems to prioritize gimping and this guy is gonna have a bad day with that. I've only faced one online so far and absolutely destroyed them with Pikachu.
is so bad i feel hes much better than he was in brawl. his forward air is godly, and his back throw can still kill so i like to rack up % then do a back throw. maybe thats just how I play though...but he's not bad. i tried to main but her hitbox is so weird. i do like her sun salutation though. but i lost more than i won using her so i had to switch.is same as brawl aka unimpressive. is cheap as hell and has been hit with a pretty harsh nerfhammer (doesn't mean he's not usable, just not as f***ing broken)
or orbut that's just me. - Pikachu has good mobility but lacks kill moves. he has Up-smash but that is SO predictable and easy to avoid. even his Thunder Is pretty awful in this game. The meteor effect the cloud god doesn't help much either.- I think what everyone thinks about her is true. her default specials are kinda bad and she is really slow.- This one could be a bit controversial, but I feel like he is WAY to slow and floaty. he's got good recovery tools but not enough kill potential. - His range is kinda bad, Like pikachu and Luigi, he lacks kill moves. he seems like he would be a very good character if the Ledge mechanic from previous iterations were back.- Slow & Predictable. I feel like his aerials were nerfed from how they were in brawl. his smash attacks are still good though.
Never liked him^I like him better, but I still HATE his specialsStill slow and bad moveset
. Not because I don't like her, I actually like her default moveset, and I like her as a character. What I hate about her, is the fact that all of her customs are entirely new attacks. It's understandable for to have entirely new moves as customs, because they are supposed to be customizable avatars. There is no justification for giving all new moves. That development time to give her moves like Angelic Missile, Heavenly Light, Rocket Jump, etc. could have easily gone into development time for other, more important things.
He just feels meh compared to normal Mario. His Fair is just no where near as good as it was in melee. And his recovery is bad like meleeShe feels awkward and her smashes just seem like they have weird hurt boxes. She also has a fairly predictable recovery.He got nerfed hard as he can't have as many pikmin who all feel allot more laggy and he feels a lot slower.
Is the big one. He seems prettymuch unchanged from Brawl, and that hurts him, especially in the recovery department. If he gets hit offstage he ain't coming back, and Smash 4 looks like it's gonna be very offstage-centric. Yes he's heavy with high kill power, but you could also just play and get better results. Just doesn't have much going for him, I feel.
Well I really flop hard whenever I play as Greninja. I guess he just needs a more delicate touch but whenever I attack with him I feel like I might as well be hitting people with a pillow.No matter how hard I try, I can't get a single KO with
I agree about Ike, I´ve met a few Ike players in for glory. They couldn´t keep up with Jigglypuff. Get
offstage and he´s done for. But that´s just me, I´ve bet that there are many skilled that I haven´t met yet.
in Battlefield, it is ridiculous how easier you win against him. His Aerial Moveset is pathetic and the player I faced had to use Counter to approach, which considering I used Samus with the ranged grab, was a hilarious easy matchup. Little Mac being so dependent on the stage makes him weak in my opinion. Although in FD he kicks your butt for sure. seems to be nerfed too. And it is a shame because he finally got the Anime Yellowblue Colorscheme. for me. He was floaty is Brawl, but he sort of fitted there since Brawl was floaty in general. Now Smash 3DS is less floatier than Brawl but Luigi was made floatier himself, so he feels slow as molasses. Probably the worst nerf I've felt so far (although I have yet to try out every character).
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