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Characters vs. Moves!

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So I totally took this idea from the Olimar boards. But I really like it!
I think it'll help us with players that have issues not knowing what to do against certain characters.

Pretty much the idea is is to have a list and post what moves work best on each character.
However, since what you do with GnW the play style is similar against other character only post the three most important moves + most important smash.
It's YOUR list, so feel free to put what you want.


Mine:
Marth - Dtilt, bair, upb,
Snake - Nair, grab, uair + fsmash
Metaknight - dtilt, nair, bair + usmash
Diddy - Dair, upb, bair + dsmash


Game and Watch - Judgement?
Donkey Kong - bair, nair, dtilt +dsmash
Wario - ?
Zero Suit Samus - Nair, bair, upb
Olimar - Nair, dtilt, grab +fsmash/usmash
Toon Link - ?


King DeDeDe - Dtilt, nair, bair +dsmash
Ike - ?
Falco - upb, bair, nair +fsmash
Kirby - nair, nair, and every smash
Wolf - ?
Ganondorf - ?
Sheik - , upb, bair, grab
Bowser -
Link -
Lucario -
Ice Climbers - dtilt, bair, upb
Rob - bair, nair, uair + any smash
Samus -
Pokemon Trainer -
Sonic - bair, dtilt +fsmash
Mario -
Yoshi -
Peach - bair, uair
Fox -
Pikachu - pretty much everything...
Pit -


Luigi - uair, nair, dtilt +usmash
Zelda -
Ness - bair, nair, uair + anysmash
Lucas -
Captain Falcon -
Jigglypuff - nair, nair, nair, any smash
 

A2ZOMG

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Marth - Fair, Dtilt, Nair
Snake - Uair, Bair, Fair
Metaknight - dtilt, Jab -> grab, Dair/Nair
Diddy - Jab -> grab, Nair, Bair

Game and Watch - Bair, Jab -> grab, Fair
Donkey Kong - Nair, Fair, Dair
Wario - Nair, Dtilt, Usmash/UpB
Zero Suit Samus - Bair, Grab, Nair
Olimar - Nair, Bair, Jab -> grab
Toon Link - Dtilt, Jab -> grab, Fair


King DeDeDe - Fair, Dtilt, Chef
Ike - Bair, Fair, Uair
Falco - Nair, Dash Attack, Bucket?
Kirby - Nair, Fair, Dair
Wolf - Bair, Dsmash, Fair
Ganondorf - Any aerial, Dtilt, Any Smash
Sheik - Jab -> grab, Dtilt, Bair
Bowser Any aerial, Grab, Dtilt
Link - Fair, Dtilt, UpB
Lucario - Dtilt, Dsmash, Fair
Ice Climbers - Bair, Dsmash, Nair?
Rob - Fair, Nair, Usmash
Samus - Fair, Jab -> grab, Bair
Pokemon Trainer - Fair, Dtilt, Nair
Sonic - Bair, UpB, Fair
Mario - Bair, Dtilt, Fair
Yoshi - Bair, Tilts, Jab
Peach - Fair, Nair, Dtilt
Fox - Jab, Dtilt, Bair
Pikachu - Nair, Bucket, Dtilt
Pit - Bair, Jab, Fair


Luigi - Nair, Uair, Dtilt
Zelda - Bair, Fair, Uair
Ness - Bair, Dtilt, Fair
Lucas - Bair, Dtilt, Fair
Captain Falcon - Bair, Nair, Fair
Jigglypuff - Nair, Fair, Usmash

I have various reasons as to why I believe those are the most practical moves against certain characters, and I'm willing to explain if someone asks.
 

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Marth - Run away. :(
Snake - Uair, Bair(skim the top of shield or if you think you can poke), Fair, Grab, Dair offstage
Metaknight - dtilt, Dair, Nair, Dash Attack, Uair
Diddy - Jab, Grab, Uair, Nair, Fsmash(better success rate with Fsmash for me, in this MU)

Game and Watch - Spacing and Timing
Donkey Kong - Nair
Wario - Nair, Dtilt, Usmash/UpB, Dair
Zero Suit Samus - Bair, Grab, Nair
Olimar - Nair, Bair, Dtilt, Dsmash
Toon Link - ?


King DeDeDe - Fair, Dtilt, Chef, Bair (skim sheild or poke), Uair
Ike - Bair, Uair
Falco - Nair, Dash Attack, Fsmash, Dair
Kirby - Nair, Dair, UpB (to escape combos and also offensive use) and Dtilt.
Wolf - ?
Ganondorf - Anything used carefully should work. Except Bucket.
Sheik - Dtilt and Nair
Bowser - Grab, Dtilt
Link - ?
Lucario - ?
Ice Climbers - Bair, Dsmash, UpB, Uair, Dtilt
Rob - Fair, Nair, Usmash, UpB
Samus - Fair, Jab, Bair, Dtilt, Dash Attack
Pokemon Trainer - ?
Sonic - Tilts
Mario - ?
Yoshi - Bair, Nair, Dtilt and Utilt, Usmash
Peach - Fair, Nair, Dair, not Bair as much.
Fox - Jab, Dtilt, Fsmash
Pikachu - Nair, Bucket, Dtilt
Pit - Bair, Jab, Nair, Fsmash (hard to explain, I use it to space and be safe against Pit)


Luigi - :(
Zelda - Bair, Fair, Uair
Ness - Bair, Dtilt, Fair, Bucket recovery or Dair spike
Lucas - Bair, Dtilt, Fair, Bucket recovery or Dair spike
Captain Falcon - Bair, Nair, Fair, Dtilt
Jigglypuff - Roll face across controller

I copy pasted A2ZOMGs and some of the things are still the same, coz I agree with most of what he said.
But also some are different and ?'s for MUs I don't know enough about.
 

Dooms

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Marth - Bair, Dtilt, Nair, Dsmash
Snake - Fair, Nair, Uair, Fsmash
Metaknight - Dtilt, Uair, Dair, Fsmash
Diddy - Bair, Up-B, Nair, Dsmash


Game and Watch - Bair, Uair, Grab, Dsmash
Donkey Kong - Bair, Nair, Dtilt, Fsmash
Wario - Bair, Dtilt, Up-B, Dsmash
Zero Suit Samus - Bair, Up-B, Dtilt, Dsmash
Olimar - Bair, Grab, Dtilt, Fsmash
Toon Link - Bair, Up-B, Dtilt, Dsmash


King DeDeDe - Dtilt, Nair, Bair, Dsmash
Ike - Bair, Dtilt, Up-B, Fsmash
Falco - Nair, Uair, Dtilt, Dsmash
Kirby - Nair, Dtilt, Grab, Dsmash
Wolf - Nair, Bair, Dtilt, Fsmash
Ganondorf - Bair, Fair, Dtilt, Dsmash
Sheik - Bair, Up-B, Dtilt, Dsmash
Bowser - Utilt, Nair, Dtilt, Fsmash
Link - Bair, Fair, Dtilt, Dsmash
Lucario - Bair, Dtilt, Dsmash
Ice Climbers - Dtilt, Bair, Up-B
Rob - Bair, Nair, Dtilt, Fsmash
Samus - Nair, Bair, Fair, Usmash
Pokemon Trainer -
~Squirtle - Bair, Dtilt, Grab, Dsmash
~Ivysaur - Dtilt, Fair, Nair, Fsmash (x10)
~Charizard - Bair, Up-B, Nair, Dsmash
Sonic - Bair, Dtilt, Up-B, Dsmash
Mario - Bair, Dtilt, Nair, Fsmash
Yoshi - Fair, Bair, Dair, Usmash
Peach - Bair, Nair, Dtilt, Usmash
Fox - Utilt, Bair, Dair, Fsmash
Pikachu - Bair, Nair, Dair, Dsmash
Pit - Bair, Dtilt, Up-B, Dsmash


Luigi - Uair, Nair, Dair, Usmash
Zelda - Bair, Fair, Bucket, Dtilt, Dsmasn
Ness - Bucket, Uair, Bair, Dtilt, Fsmash
Lucas - Bucket, Dtilt, Bair, Nair, Fsmash
Captain Falcon - Bair, Nair, Dtilt, Dsmash
Jigglypuff - Bair, Nair, Dair, Usmash

Sorry if I'm bad but I wanted to fill it out~
 

UTDZac

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I did this really quickly

Marth
Good: spaced bair, fair
Bad: dair, unspaced bair, any aerial on shield

Snake
Good: spaced bair a lot, uair, nair
Bad: rolling, unspaced bair

Metaknight
Good: spaced bair, dsmash, uair, dtilt, UpB
Bad: approaching

Diddy
Good: bair, nair, Upb, weak fair their UpB, fsmash and dtilt to prevent stage recovery too
Bad: grounded dair, attacking their shield if they have banana

Wario
Good: nair a lot, upsmash, spaced bacon
Bad: full aerial dair (get farted), unspaced bair

Donkey Kong - bair and nair a lot
Olimar - UpB a lot, spaced bair, grab
Toon Link - weave game (dodge projectiles), bair
King DeDeDe - spaced bair, nair, dair, fsmash
Kirby - dsmash a lot for conditioning

Lucario
Bad: upsmash for kills

Ice Climbers
Bad: aerials against their shield

Sonic
Bad: Pictochat and Yoshi's Island, attacking a lot

Ness / Lucas
Good: uair as they try to UpB hit themselves
 

UTDZac

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It's the best kill move to use against him. uair stalling him correctly can force an airdodge. fsmash comes out fast enough with enough power to kill at reasonable percents. that and it's hitbox stays out much longer than the other two, protected you from grabs or ftilts. something like that, i forget =(
 
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