Character matchups you can never win?

[Kaiboiii]

As a / main, is terrifying.

 

[Etc_Guy]

I haven't played a lot of online yet (Wii U) but my brother mains and 's wheelie destroys him if not blocked. Even the KO punch doesn't make him flinch. I hate when I play because the luma eats your projectiles. I have to be careful against as or because of pocket.

 

[Jiggy37]

Unless custom moves are on, I have real trouble closing out a KO against with since they have better range with aerials and smashes. also gives her trouble, making her one of my more questionable characters.


I almost never run into , but for some reason, every time I do, the person is the most amazing player I've ever encountered. I still can't tell if Villager actually gives me trouble or if I'm just randomly getting all the good players of this character. (On the flip side, every player I've gone against was pretty bad.) is in the same boat where I rarely see him, but if I do see him then the player is going to be incredible. And I only wish that I could run into the scrubs that some of you encounter; I've never seen one who's less than great. Also never seen one who's as good as the best Villagers or Falcos, but still.


Finally, I play 20+ characters and it takes a lot to make me drop one, but at least for now I've given up because I have no idea what they're supposed to do against characters with good physical projectiles like . All of my other characters have at least some options.

 

[PokemonyeWest]

Jigglypuff is the only character that gives me trouble. If someone is picking Jiggs then they know their ****.

 

[MarioFireRed]

I mainly have problems against due to their speed and my inexperience against them.
All of which apply to .

 

[P1 Jake]

I always dread fighting even a decent , no matter what character I'm using.

 

[Ffamran]

I always dread fighting even a decent , no matter what character I'm using.

Since you have Luci listed as a main, can't you just Counter DeDeDe? Other than that, I have nothing else besides baiting, waiting, and looking for openings.

 

[Dragonhunter970]

And

 

[Deleted member 245254]

I don't go in to any match thinking that it's impossible for me to win, no matter what character pops up. How do you expect to win with that mindset? I think whether I win or lose tends to depend on my opponents skills rather than the character they picked, more often than not.

As a Sonic main and assuming my opponent is skilled, I get pretty salty fighting Gannondorf. Everything he does seems to out-prioritize what I do, and he's so damn strong per hit that he lumps on the same damage in one attack that takes me 10 seconds to deal in some string. That frustrates me. To make matters worse Sonic is one of the only characters helpless to his command grab > dtilt combo. Ugh.

Next, Link. I think this is attributed to For Glory lag though. A projectile spamming Link can make me crazy.

 

[Jarret (The one in 3DS)]

Whenever I play online, I don't have that much difficulty against other people. I can fight three people in a row that use the same character, and the results can vary since it's different people. So what matchups push me into the corner? It honestly depends on who you're up against and what characters the other person and I use during said match. I remember fighting this one guy who played as ZSS, and goddamn was he/she good during those matches.

Like I said, it depends on who you're against and the characters the two of you use. So have fun with the characters you use.

 

[HotelWaffle]

Little Mac, Villager, Rosalina, Link.

 

[Shadow9841]

I always, ALWAYS struggle against a good Ness, or a really good Lucario. The way they always shave off a huge amount of percentage points off of me so quickly is ridiculous.

 

[AccountsDept]

For whatever reason, Marth/Fox/Sheik (basically, all my mains) vs. is unthinkably difficult for whatever reason.

 

[kyxsune]

Yoshi..I cant remember ever beating one....=_=.

I also have a toon link phobia due to a crap ton of local matches against a friend.

 

[Deleted member 269706]

Ganon is a threat to me, but only when I'm playing Ike...

 

[Chakra-X]

I have more-commong-than-woukd-like trouble with and , with the occasional . Ness's grab and attacking range, mainly in the air, throw me off. Wario's Bike and great Air maneuverability are hard to approach, and Ganon I feel like every mistake I make give me like 25% damage every time because of my bad reads.

 

[Jigglystep]

As a Villager main, the matchup is really, really difficult because of her instant massive wall that reflects 3/4ths of my attacks. This applies to anyone with a reflector really, but I find that good Palutenas can easily shut me down more so than the others.

 

[EvilShadow777]

Funny enough playing against so many Greninjas, Little Macs, and Rosalinas I have no issue dealing with them since I understand their play styles. I can also usually keep up with a good Sheik.

The characters that give me the most trouble are and . I usually play Ike so Diddy is a straight up hard counter to my main and as for zss and Rob they both have long range poke with great mid/close range options. They get pretty absurd in good hands.

 

[Gameboi834]

This thread makes Rosaluma sound like the Devil.

I must be God lol

 

[TTTTTsd]

As a Dr. Mario player my matchups are well rounded (usually 6:4 mild disadvantage for Doc, 5:5 sometimes and OCCASIONALLY 6:4 Doc advantage) so the few matchups I think Doc outright loses are probably Marth, IMO. That's like, the only one I think I'd switch for. Everything else is likely easily possible.

 

[Noga]

My worst matchup it's , but that only applies when I'm playing . I have an easier time if I use or .

 

[Rubiks Dan]

Sonic and Greninja. I like to play a long range game but they just love getting in my **** all the time.

 

[Doctor_Mario]

A good little mac, rob, shulk or rosalumas stress me out.

 

[Udlr Customs]

I main Charizard. So a decent Shiek player can give me a really hard time. Once Shieks air combos get going I cant seem to find an answer

 

[MasterJack888]

Little mac can be hard because Im dominating, And he pulss of a stupid ko uppercut...

 

[MasterJack888]

Little mac can be hard because Im dominating, And he pulss of a stupid ko uppercut...

I mean pulls.... Sorry

 

[Tali_Zorha]

Mega man can give me lots of trouble. So can Ness and Villager
but i don't see them to often. The characthers i play as is luigi, Rosalina, and samus.

A while back i had i problems with little mac but not any more.
think i'm pretty good at adapting to certain characters play style. within a some more matches with the three i stated. i'm sure they won't be much of a problem.



hopefully anyway.

 

[Mrwhatzitooya]

My worst matchup is against Lucario. That aura ability gets really annoying :/ I find that if I don't spike him around 30-40%, he's going to beat me with his ludicrous recovery! Haha

RosaLuma's also pretty bad, and Olimar may or may not be , as I've only fought one in For Glory (though he was SERIOUSLY pro) xD

 

[Team Plasma N]

Lucarios seem to give me the most trouble only when their percentage gets high. At low percents I'm doing just fine, but then at higher percents the tables just turn :/.

 

[Desjah Rei]

I don't know about worst, but I am seriously thrown off when I fight odd characters. In particular, Pacman and Duck Hunt.

 

[Evello]

I play Ike, so I'm used to out-spacing pretty much everyone (except Shulk, of course). I find myself struggling most against characters who I can't space well, particularly King Dedede and Zero Suit Samus. I just really have to work overtime to approach those two. D3 especially just has deceptively long hitboxes. The combination of ZSS's projectiles to force an approach and long whip to space really mess with my rhythm. Obviously the skill of the player is far more important than the character in most cases, but in the case of D3 I don't think I've beaten a single one online out of the ~5 I've fought.

 

[DiverseStyle]

Mainly just . I can pretty much adapt to any character as but that monkey's just a slippery little bugger. Granted it's my own lack of understanding of dealing with the matchup, but too often it's just slip, slip, grab, grab, monkey tail.

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Link dittos are the worst.
Projectiles are my bread and butter and they clank, also I know what moves to expect when facing a Link but I can never seem to use that to my advantage.

 

[SafCar]

I can never beat my friend when he plays Villager. He ends up playing super defensive a lot. The only battle I've won against him is with Shulk because he was careless with the Timber and I ended up countering it.

 

[DiamondDust]

Duck Hunt and Villager. I play super aggressive, so I can't stand fighting characters that just sit back and shoot stuff (not that I have a problem with people playing like that). Both those character just seem to shut down a lot of approaches.

 

[Rojo Espada]

I just can't.
90 percent of time I'm always flying at the edge because of Mac's stupid smash attacks.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Really good Captain Falcon's that hop around obnoxiously like a damn flea.

 

[hsuperill]

I usually play and . A good will usually murder me.

 

[Uffe]

³ I've been 2 stocked by him a few times. Not really sure why that is since I know what he's doing. I'm not sure how to deal with his multihit attacks.
He's just weird. I feel like I can't get close to this guy.
Gimp marathon against her. Her dash attack is annoying. She looks like a dolphin poking its head out of the water when she does it. Why does it hit me through my shield?
Against a good player, he's nearly impossible to get to without taking much damage. I've beaten him many times, but against someone who does the old bait and switch properly with him, the game usually ends up timing out and me losing.

 

[Phoenix502]

more often than not, I don't ever get to fight the entire cast, so some matchups I can't determine...

there was this one Greninja during an Alabama monthly who predominantly used Up throws to chaining Uairs, Up Smash was the go-to anti-Air launcher, and most other moves were not used as much, the guy beat me consistently with that.

online, however, I've recently had trouble with a very grabby mario... had a tough time keeping my cool because peppering me with fireballs whittled at my patience. not a whole lot of other fighters, except I dread fighting lightweight fighters that float (Peach, Kirby, MK, Puff).

Also... While I main Shulk and second Robin and occasionally Dark Pit, I've been starting to learn little mac... and am amazed how so FEW macs i run into in For Glory utilize a Wall-jump to UpB as a recovery option. I've won many matches on 4 Glory because of it...though i suppose i should discuss that more on the little mac board...