Character Landing Lag

[GimR]

I did this last night

Things worth Noticing:

1. It seems like a Hard fall happens every time you land unless you land during your jump's arc.
   
2. This means that if your jab cancelling someone they have their hard fall landing lag when they hit the ground.
   
3. This means Luigi has a guaranteed jab up-B on character's like D3
   
4. ZZS always has 4 frames of landing lag when short hopping
   
5. Squirtle always has 2 frames of landing lag when short hopping

 

[Zankoku]

Jump's "arc"? I'm pretty sure you get a light fall from a short-hop non-fastfall, and it seems you're guaranteed a hard fall regardless of height if you were hit by an opponent's attack while in the air. Also of note is that the light/hard fall animations are quite a bit longer, but IASA-able, unless you're a victim of the lag from certain recoveries (Marth, Mario, Luigi, etc.).

 

[GimR]

1. The lag I put is the lag after IASA

2. Check Squirtle's short hop fast fall, he only has 2 frames of lag

3. Check out ZZS' short hop slow fall. She has 4 frames of lag.

 

[DtJ Hilt]

I'm almost entirely sure that you do a light fall if you land within 60 frames of the initial jump.

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Light landing occurs when you hit the ground falling from a height less than or equal to the height of your short hop.

Hard landing occurs when you land from a height equal to or greater than you full hop.

Iirc you get a hard landing whenever you fast fall.

 

[GimR]

Yeah but Squirtle and ZZS don't which is weird

 

[The Cape]

Well we should definetly incorporate that with this information:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=258564

 

[T-block]

Cool info... Squirtle is so cool.

Nothing changes if you air dodge into the ground, right? The numbers should still apply?

Why do you call her ZZS?

 

[GimR]

It's a stupid error that I've made since brawl came out that I can't shake


@ Cape: Yeah, were, getting really close to having all important generalized frame data

 

[Pikabunz]

ZSS can get a soft landing in her short hop if you air dodge to the ground. You can also get a soft landing after weak hits if you air dodge.

How'd you get different numbers in hard landing and short hop fast fall for D3 and DK? For D3's SHFF I got 6 and for DK I got 5.

 

[GimR]

Those were mistakes, my bad, I'll update. I"ll test what you said about air dodging and soft landing