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Character Hitboxes - HARDCORE DOTS EDITION

3mmanu3lrc

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Something premium users can do to some other members, it changes the name to pink and it says "pranked" bellow your now pink nickname.
 

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@th3kuzinator if I were a premium member, could I change my nickname color to the one of my choice?
Moreover, @Fireblaster could you make the table view a little larger so that it avoids the horisontal scroll at the right?
it'd be better imo.
 

KoRoBeNiKi

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specific titles give you specific colors
Mods, Admins, Broomers, Debaters, and researchers are all colored (to distinguish)
 

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@th3kuzinator if I were a premium member, could I change my nickname color to the one of my choice?
Moreover, @Fireblaster could you make the table view a little larger so that it avoids the horisontal scroll at the right?
it'd be better imo.
From what I know, only an admin or somebody high up can change the width for CODE boxes for the whole forum.
 

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Ok! was just something I'd like, it looks cool anyway.
I think I could be a little less lazy and just scroll down and search a little. lol
 

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as a premmy member you can make ur name green (the premmy color) or you can prank yourself and make it purple.

I like the pink the most personally, followed by the dark blue (which is now only for BBR ruleset committee) followed by the light blue (researcher)

BRoom puple is ok, red for mods is bleh, BRoom green is slightly better.

I do kinda dig the italicized gray the admins get though.
 

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Standard yellow is too legit.

The welcoming committee light yellow is funny looking and the Smash Writer darker yellow gold is bo$$

also the developer purple is decent looking as well. I think thats everything.
 

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@th3kuzinator if I were a premium member, could I change my nickname color to the one of my choice?
Moreover, @Fireblaster could you make the table view a little larger so that it avoids the horisontal scroll at the right?
it'd be better imo.
I don't see a horizontal scrollbar - the entire width of the table fits in my window - but I do get a vertical scrollbar. The last row and a half don't fit in the window.
 

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I just wanted some color to match with my avatar, but I think is easier to fiand an avatar to match my nickname color... lol

Pink_Kirby said:
I don't see a horizontal scrollbar - the entire width of the table fits in my window - but I do get a vertical scrollbar. The last row and a half don't fit in the window.
Sorry I said Horizontal, it's Vertical for the height. lol
 

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Well, now that (you say it/I think about it) you're right...
I'm just not much of a DK player though, just know the basics with DK.
 

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It's weird, Ness's dash attack actually has a reasonable hitbox...

Then you look at Falcon's d-tilt
 

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It's the reverse hitbox. I love that hitbox, cooler than i expected.


Ness' dash attack covers his whole body pretty much...i dont think thats reasonable since all he is doing is pushing forward with his hands.
Falcon's fsmash attack covers his whole body and lights people on fire pretty much...i don't think thats reasonable since all he is doing is kicking forward with his feets.
 

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Falcon's fsmash attack covers his whole body and lights people on fire pretty much...i don't think thats reasonable since all he is doing is kicking forward with his feets.
you are right, falcons Fsmash hitbox is also crazy. And the fire...well thats just inescapable when being kicked with that force.
 

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Maybe we have differing definitions of a "reverse" hitbox. Even most ground moves, when hit with the edge of the hitbox (say the middle of falcons body during his fsmash) it will send them opposite of the "normal" direction.
Multi hit attacks don't have them, except the last hit on kirbys fair, and maybe pikas too, oh and falcons fair n stuff. I'm talking pretty much exclusively about horizontal knockback attacks, so spikes don't really count, along with most upwards hits. Even fox's dtilt has a reverse box, same with marios dtilt, pikas ftilt, fox's jab, i could go on.
 

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table update

Code:
                CF  DK  Fox  Jiggly  Kirby  Link  Luigi  Mario  Ness  Pika  Samus  Yoshi
Duck            ..  ..  ...  ......  [url=http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3567/kirbyduck.gif]Kirby[/url]  ....  .....  .....  ....  ....  .....  .....
Get-up Attack   ..  ..  ...  ......  .....  ....  .....  .....  [url=http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7398/nessgetupattack.gif]Ness[/url]  ....  .....  .....
Jab             ..  ..  [url=http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/904/foxjab.gif]Fox[/url]  ......  .....  [url=http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2864/linkjab.gif]Link[/url]  .....  .....  [url=http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2473/nessjab.gif]Ness[/url]  [url=http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1662/pikajab.gif]Pika[/url]  [url=http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7933/samusjab.gif]Samus[/url]  [url=http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/372/yoshijab.gif]Yoshi[/url]
Roll            ..  ..  ...  ......  .....  ....  .....  .....  ....  [url=http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/430/pikaroll.gif]Pika[/url]  [url=http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7646/samusroll.gif]Samus[/url]  .....
Shield Jump     [url=http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/281/falconshieldjump.gif]CF[/url]  ..  ...  ......  .....  ....  .....  .....  ....  ....  .....  .....
Dash Attack     [url=http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4094/falcondash.gif]CF[/url]  [url=http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2908/dkdash.gif]DK[/url]  [url=http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3581/foxdash.gif]Fox[/url]  [url=http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4520/jigglydash.gif
Dash Attack:Jiggly:http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4520/jigglydash.gif]Jiggly[/url]  [url=http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7079/kirbydash.gif]Kirby[/url]  ....  [url=http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8951/luigidash.gif]Luigi[/url]  [url=http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8728/mariodash.gif]Mario[/url]  [url=http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6489/nessdash.gif]Ness[/url]  [url=http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/540/pikadash.gif]Pika[/url]  [url=http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8567/samusdash.gif]Samus[/url]  [url=http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/9279/yoshidash.gif]Yoshi[/url]
Grab            [url=http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/8684/falcongrab.gif]CF[/url]  [url=http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/4885/dkgrab.gif]DK[/url]  [url=http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/7897/foxgrab.gif]Fox[/url]  [url=http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3475/jigglygrab.gif]Jiggly[/url]  [url=http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/4057/kirbygrab.gif]Kirby[/url]  [url=http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6393/linkgrab.gif]Link[/url]  [url=http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8116/luigigrab.gif]Luigi[/url]  [url=http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7808/mariograb.gif]Mario[/url]  [url=http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/2483/nessgrab.gif]Ness[/url]  [url=http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1248/pikagrab.gif]Pika[/url]  [url=http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/705/samusgrab.gif]Samus[/url]  [url=http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6030/yoshigrab.gif]Yoshi[/url]
BThrow          ..  ..  ...  ......  .....  ....  .....  [url=http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9171/mariobthrow.gif]Mario[/url]  ....  ....  .....  .....
Dtilt           [url=http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3484/falcondtilt.gif]CF[/url]  [url=http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3788/dkdtilt.gif]DK[/url]  [url=http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/7300/foxdtilt.gif]Fox[/url]  [url=http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/7329/jigglydtilt.gif]Jiggly[/url]  [url=http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1899/kirbydtilt.gif]Kirby[/url]  [url=http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3356/linkdtilt.gif]Link[/url]  .....  [url=http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1491/mariodtilt.gif]Mario[/url]  [url=http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/2186/nessdtilt.gif]Ness[/url]  [url=http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2483/pikadtilt.gif]Pika[/url]  .....  [url=http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9933/yoshidtilt.gif]Yoshi[/url]
Ftilt           ..  ..  ...  ......  .....  ....  .....  .....  ....  [url=http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/4020/pikaftilt.gif]Pika[/url]  .....  [url=http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1537/yoshiftilt.gif]Yoshi[/url]
Utilt           [url=http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3723/falconutilt.gif]CF[/url]  ..  [url=http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3262/foxutilt.gif]Fox[/url]  [url=http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6271/jigglyutilt.gif]Jiggly[/url]  [url=http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8015/kirbyutilt.gif]Kirby[/url]  [url=http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/6941/linkutilt.gif]Link[/url]  .....  .....  [url=http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6056/nessutilt.gif]Ness[/url]  [url=http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5955/pikautilt.gif]Pika[/url]  .....  [url=http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2663/yoshiutilt.gif]Yoshi[/url]
DSmash          ..  [url=http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8849/dkdsmash.gif]DK[/url]  ...  [url=http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8025/jigglydsmash.gif]Jiggly[/url]  [url=http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5817/kirbydsmash.gif]Kirby[/url]  ....  .....  .....  [url=http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6149/nessdsmash.gif]Ness[/url]  [url=http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/719/pikadsmash.gif]Pika[/url]  .....  .....
FSmash          [url=http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6903/falconfsmashhigh.gif]CF[/url]  [url=http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9181/dkfsmash.gif]DK[/url]  ...  ......  .....  [url=http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7570/linkfsmash.gif]Link[/url]  .....  .....  ....  [url=http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/1981/pikafsmash.gif]Pika[/url]  .....  .....
FSmash (high)   [url=http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1791/falconfsmash.gif]CF[/url]  ..  ...  ......  .....  ....  .....  .....  ....  ....  .....  .....
FSmash (low)    [url=http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9706/falconfsmashlow.gif]CF[/url]  ..  ...  ......  .....  ....  .....  .....  ....  ....  .....  .....
UpSmash         [url=http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/5231/falconusmash.gif]CF[/url]  ..  ...  ......  .....  ....  .....  [url=http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2928/mariousmash.gif]Mario[/url]  [url=http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9724/nessusmash.gif]Ness[/url]  [url=http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8305/pikausmash.gif]Pika[/url]  [url=http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7739/samususmash.gif]Samus[/url]  [url=http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3803/yoshiusmash.gif]Yoshi[/url]
Bair            [url=http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7473/falconbair.gif]CF[/url]  [url=http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/152/dkbair.gif]DK[/url]  [url=http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2281/foxbair.gif]Fox[/url]  ......  [url=http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4466/kirbybair.gif]Kirby[/url]  ....  [url=http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/1950/luigibair.gif]Luigi[/url]  .....  ....  [url=http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2327/pikabair.gif]Pika[/url]  .....  .....
Dair            [url=http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3650/falcondair.gif]CF[/url]  [url=http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9844/dkdair.gif]DK[/url]  ...  ......  [url=http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3728/kirbydair.gif]Kirby[/url]  [url=http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3188/linkdair.gif]Link[/url]  .....  .....  [url=http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/6572/nessdair.gif]Ness[/url]  [url=http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2135/pikadair.gif]Pika[/url]  [url=http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1303/samusdair.gif]Samus[/url]  [url=http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4562/yoshidair.gif]Yoshi[/url]
No cancel Dair  ..  ..  ...  [url=http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/342/jigglydairnocancel.gif]Jiggly[/url]  .....  ....  .....  .....  ....  ....  .....  .....
Fair            [url=http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7012/falconfair.gif]CF[/url]  ..  ...  ......  .....  [url=http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/7953/linkfair.gif]Link[/url]  .....  .....  ....  [url=http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3581/pikafair.gif]Pika[/url]  .....  .....
Nair            [url=http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/3041/falconnair.gif]CF[/url]  ..  ...  ......  [url=http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6952/kirbynair.gif]Kirby[/url]  ....  .....  .....  ....  [url=http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/571/pikanair.gif]Pika[/url]  [url=http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3666/samusnair.gif]Samus[/url]  .....
No cancel Nair  ..  ..  ...  ......  [url=http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6456/kirbynairnocancel.gif]Kirby[/url]  ....  .....  .....  ....  ....  .....  .....
Uair            [url=http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5172/falconuair.gif]CF[/url]  ..  ...  ......  [url=http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4997/kirbyuair.gif]Kirby[/url]  ....  .....  .....  [url=http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/5238/nessuair.gif]Ness[/url]  [url=http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3883/pikauair.gif]Pika[/url]  [url=http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3764/samusuair.gif]Samus[/url]  .....
No cancel Uair  ..  ..  ...  ......  [url=http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/361/kirbyuairnocancel.gif]Kirby[/url]  ....  .....  .....  ....  ....  .....  .....
DJC Uair        ..  ..  ...  ......  .....  ....  .....  .....  [url=http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8591/nessdjcuair.gif]Ness[/url]  ....  .....  .....
B               [url=http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/1606/falconb.gif]CF[/url]  [url=http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3369/dkb.gif]DK[/url]  [url=http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4931/foxb.gif]Fox[/url]  ......  .....  ....  .....  .....  ....  [url=http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1492/pikab.gif]Pika[/url]  .....  .....
DownB           ..  [url=http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3079/dkdownb.gif]DK[/url]  [url=http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6514/foxdownb.gif]Fox[/url]  [url=http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6152/jigglydownb.gif]Jiggly[/url]  .....  ....  .....  .....  ....  [url=http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6592/pikadownb.gif]Pika[/url]  [url=http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/7061/samusdownb.gif]Samus[/url]  .....
DownB Air       ..  ..  ...  ......  .....  ....  [url=http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5360/luigidownbground.gif]Luigi[/url]  [url=http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8030/mariodownbair.gif]Mario[/url]  ....  ....  .....  .....
DownB Ground    ..  ..  ...  ......  .....  ....  [url=http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/5854/luigidownbair.gif]Luigi[/url]  [url=http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8026/mariodownbground.gif]Mario[/url]  ....  ....  .....  .....
DownB initial   ..  ..  [url=http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/576/foxdownb.png]Fox[/url]  [url=http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7104/jigglydownb.png]Jiggly[/url]  .....  ....  .....  .....  ....  ....  .....  .....
UpB             [url=http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9137/falconupb.gif]CF[/url]  ..  [url=http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9679/foxupb.gif]Fox[/url]  [url=http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2724/jigglyupb.gif]Jiggly[/url]  [url=http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/2446/kirbyupb.gif]Kirby[/url]  ....  [url=http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2734/luigiupb.gif]Luigi[/url]  [url=http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4984/marioupb.gif]Mario[/url]  ....  [url=http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5571/pikaupb.gif]Pika[/url]  [url=http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/623/samusupb.gif]Samus[/url]  [url=http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/6489/yoshiupb.gif]Yoshi[/url]
UpB Air         ..  [url=http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/804/dkupbair.gif]DK[/url]  ...  ......  .....  [url=http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/5053/linkupbair.gif]Link[/url]  .....  .....  [url=http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/6146/nesspkt2air.gif]Ness[/url]  ....  .....  .....
UpB Ground      ..  [url=http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/1223/dkupbground.gif]DK[/url]  ...  ......  .....  [url=http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6030/linkupbground.gif]Link[/url]  .....  .....  [url=http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2509/nesspkt2ground.gif]Ness[/url]  ....  .....  .....
UpB initial     ..  ..  ...  ......  .....  ....  [url=http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9259/luigiupb.png]Luigi[/url]  .....  ....  ....  .....  .....
 

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Falcons hit boxes are just big and thus the edge tends to stick out in some places making these reverse hit boxes rather funny in some situations.

Like Dtilt
 

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Maybe we have differing definitions of a "reverse" hitbox. Even most ground moves, when hit with the edge of the hitbox (say the middle of falcons body during his fsmash) it will send them opposite of the "normal" direction.
Multi hit attacks don't have them, except the last hit on kirbys fair, and maybe pikas too, oh and falcons fair n stuff. I'm talking pretty much exclusively about horizontal knockback attacks, so spikes don't really count, along with most upwards hits. Even fox's dtilt has a reverse box, same with marios dtilt, pikas ftilt, fox's jab, i could go on.
I have a hypothesis that there are specific rules as to what causes a reverse hit.

  • Every attack that doesn't have an exact upwards or downwards trajectory (like ness's dair or fox's uair) has horizontal trajectory. These attacks can then be reversed.
  • If an attack is a single hitbox, the horizontal direction the opponent is sent in depends on their position relative to the attack hitbox
  • If an attack has multiple hitboxes on the same horizontal level, there is a "main" hitbox. If the opponent is hit with the attack and he makes contact with any set of hitboxes that include the "main hitbox", then the default trajectory of the move is used.
  • If an attack has multiple hitboxes on the same horizontal level, then it will also have a reverse hitbox. In order for the reverse move to work, the opponent has to make contact with ONLY the reverse hitbox. Otherwise they'll hit the main hitbox and the move will go as normal.

This is my evidence.

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7012/falconfair.gif

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4466/kirbybair.gif

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1791/falconfsmash.gif

And just about every Nair in this game.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/571/pikanair.gif

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3666/samusnair.gif

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3mmanu3lrc

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LOLz Luigi Dtilt, also :awesome: it's better than what I thought.
No wonder why I use it that much.
:p
 
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