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Jason the Yoshi

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Krystal can happen, but I doubt she'd happen before another Fire Emblem character or Takamaru.

Sakurai has mentioned how much he likes reviving franchises through Smash. That practically confirms a retro. The most plausible retro is Takamaru.
But Takamaru was ninja'd by Greninja!
 

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Seems complex on paper, but if Sakurai could pull it off without screwing it up like PT, it would be one of the most interesting mechanics in Smash history.


....still doesn't make me like them more than Wrestler...
Actually, it's not that complicated. Developers could get away with this sort of concept without too much of a hassle. At worst it would just be as bad as trying to balance out Lucario's aura mechanic.
 

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*facepalm* I'll just bring this back up since this Greninja vs. Takamaru debate is getting annoying.

Like I've already said for that Super Nintendo Rob guy (I forgot his name already) in the past: "Anyone who thinks that Takamaru would be a Greninja clone is delusional." :rolleyes:

I've tried my best to ignore this ignorance, but I'm afraid that I have to be Golden 2.0 in a silly scenario like this.

First of all, teleportation and becoming invisible ARE two different things. You disappear from sight in thin air and reappear else where, leaving behind a substitute in your original place. Invisibility makes you blend in with you surrounds and use that to your advantage in battle.

Shirukens aren't the only damn weapons he can wield in the first place. He has kunais, a Japanese throwing knife that he'd been using since his own game and it is WAY more iconic to him than shirukens in the first place. He also have Windmill Blades that are even more efficient that shirukens due to its boomerang like functionality. Then there's Nintendo Land's clay bombs which can easily be used to represent Ninja Castle way more than those irrelevant shirukens in the first place.

How the hell an anthropomorphic frog is considered similar to a Edo era human with obvious DIFFERENT proportions in the first place? Greninja is a Water/Dark type amphibian that wouldn't feel too out of place in Digimon and uses its own damn tongue for a scarf since it can't afford one. Takamaru is dress like anything you'd expect from ancient Japan with the ponytail to boot. The number of people who thing that they would be clones makes me want to murder a million Zubats.


There's a difference between wielding an organic katana and manipulation water for form weapons, people! He wields and fights like a true samurai with the stance and strikes to support that. Greninja is a athletic poor man's Dororo with the ability to use water in battle and we'd never seen him create weapons with it in Pokemon canon (Granted Sakurai had done so to make him a more efficient fighter like Lucario and Mewtwo). Takamaru would represent a samurai more than ninjas in the first place since he can't do martial arts and several samurai actually USED tools like shiruken or kunai to distract their foes from afar.

I think I've made my point just for all the Pokemaniacs to see.
Is it REALLY that hard to get it through your thick skulls, people?
 

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*facepalm* I'll just bring this back up since this Greninja vs. Takamaru debate is getting annoying.



Is it REALLY that hard to get it through your thick skulls, people?
If it's thick,there's a reason for it to take long.
 

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I was really disappointed when Mario was shown. OBVIOUSLY a Luigi clone!
 

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Pit was popularly requested and he got in Brawl.
Yea. And we have 2 historical picks. But I don't see why that affects either's chances.
Doubt it, Daitouryou is already out of the competition, and Diskun doesn't have that much potential for a moveset. :p
I'm starting to believe we won't get a "historical one."
Yea, I thought Daitoryo was the frontrunner of historical picks. I'm currently considering Sheriff or Diskun over Takamaru or Mach Rider
Having no idea what Diskun could do is part of why I'm hesitant to add him. But I'm not completely counting out a popular pick.
 

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*facepalm* I'll just bring this back up since this Greninja vs. Takamaru debate is getting annoying.



Is it REALLY that hard to get it through your thick skulls, people?
In all seriousness,we don't know what Sakurai will do. He may think "Ninja's seem better than samurais,so,eeeeh,screw it. Greninja over Takamaru. Screw It. I don't care."

By the way,is Ike naked in your profile pic?

It's making me feel a bit uncomfortable,it's like that one Chrom picture I once saw,but in a different art style.
 

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Yea. And we have 2 historical picks. But I don't see why that affects either's chances.

Yea, I thought Daitoryo was the frontrunner of historical picks. I'm currently considering Sheriff or Diskun over Takamaru or Mach Rider
Having no idea what Diskun could do is part of why I'm hesitant to add him. But I'm not completely counting out a popular pick.
I think Historic wise Duck Hunt Dog has the best shot, and he'd match WTF and R.O.B. as a hardware (Zapper) rep.
 
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*facepalm* I'll just bring this back up since this Greninja vs. Takamaru debate is getting annoying.



Is it REALLY that hard to get it through your thick skulls, people?
You should feel honored to have been a Golden 2.0 :troll:

I know I feel honored that you were.
 

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Yea. And we have 2 historical picks. But I don't see why that affects either's chances.

Yea, I thought Daitoryo was the frontrunner of historical picks. I'm currently considering Sheriff or Diskun over Takamaru or Mach Rider
Having no idea what Diskun could do is part of why I'm hesitant to add him. But I'm not completely counting out a popular pick.
You doubt Mach Rider, you don't deserve Mach Rider. Get out.
 

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In all seriousness,we don't know what Sakurai will do. He may think "Ninja's seem better than samurais,so,eeeeh,screw it. Greninja over Takamaru. Screw It. I don't care."

By the way,is Ike naked in your profile pic?

It's making me feel a bit uncomfortable,it's like that one Chrom picture I once saw,but in a different art style.
No, he's just a bro who's working out with no shirt like a boss. :smirk:
 

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I think Historic wise Duck Hunt Dog has the best shot, and he'd match WTF and R.O.B. as a hardware (Zapper) rep.
Oh Duck Hunt Dog, he's literally cause the entire fanbase to explode. He's the Scrappy Doo of the video game industry in a good, trolling way. I wouldn't mind him at all if he's pulled off right.
 

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I love Takamaru and will admit that he still has a shot, but I'm starting to think that Mach Rider will get in first, if we even get a retro newcomer.

I do think that Greninja stole Takamaru's niche, but there's no way Takamaru would be a clone.
 
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I was really disappointed when Mario was shown. OBVIOUSLY a Luigi clone!
I know right! But in all seriousness, Luigi shouldn't be a Mario clone. Out of all the clones in the series, he has the most potential to be unique in my opinion.
 

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This is all the work of the patriots.

In fact there is no E3, this is all VR training.
Dear Lord!

To think we to be fooled!

Round the torches! Gather the pitchforks! We march to New England!
 

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This is all the work of the patriots.

In fact there is no E3, this is all VR training.
S3: Super Smashing Simulation.

Oh Duck Hunt Dog, he's literally cause the entire fanbase to explode. He's the Scrappy Doo of the video game industry in a good, trolling way. I wouldn't mind him at all if he's pulled off right.
Hmmm. Agreed. I'd like the dog as well. He'd probably use the NES Light Gun for one of his attacks.

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I know right! But in all seriousness, Luigi shouldn't be a Mario clone. Out of all the clones in the series, he has the most potential to be unique in my opinion.
Well, actually, Luigi being similar to Mario is in his design. So it does make sense that he'd bare a resemblance to Mario.

Though I do wish his playstyle had more differences, because Luigi often feels like an inferior Mario.
 

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I'm pretty sure you can make an argument that Luigi is better than Mario in Melee and Brawl lol. Though it's not saying much in Brawl's case and Doc is still the best of the italian shotos in Melee.

Mario >>> Luigi in 64 though.
 
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