Character Discussion Thread

[Leafeon523]

I don't care if we have killed the leak or not, can we just stahp talking about it? We are beating a horse that may or may not be dead, and its current state of being does not make it more interesting.

 

[Bowserlick]

Toad for Mario series and Ganon/Tingle/Ghirahim for the Zelda series might make sense if another character in these franchises is going to be jammed in.

 

[Leafeon523]

Toad for Mario series and Ganon/Tingle/Ghirahim for the Zelda series might make sense if another character in these franchises is going to be jammed in.

Some other contenders could be Paper Mario, Bowser Jr, Vaati, and Impa (due to hyrule warriors)

 

[Will]

Toad for Mario series and Ganon/Tingle/Ghirahim for the Zelda series might make sense if another character in these franchises is going to be jammed in.

Toad? It's Peach's Standard B again. Try again.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Toad? It's Peach's Standard B again. Try again.

Well Blue Toad is still in the running, if that accounts to anything.

 

[Will]

Here's something I want to speak of :

Sure we think Chorus Men has a chance,but what would they're moveset be? I haven't seen one yet.

Speaking of which,I personally would've preferred the Elite Beat Agents. They're a trio,and they sing. Can't really complain.

Second off,do you think there will be a new member of the (Master/Crazy)Hand family? If so,who would it be? I'm thinking of a hand that uses more aerial attacks,while Master Hand uses more physical attacks and Crazy Hand uses more special attacks. I'm going to call it Lust Hand. Don't judge it,it's a beautiful name.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Here's something I want to speak of :

Sure we think Chorus Men has a chance,but what would they're moveset be? I haven't seen one yet.

There's a Chorus Men moveset idea over at the Chorus Men support thread. One of the supporters over there could demonstrate it.

 

[Bowserlick]

Toad? It's Peach's Standard B again. Try again.

Well, Zero Suit Samus could fight Samus.

Toad is also a race, so I think if Sakurai really wanted to add Toad, Smash logic allows his addition.

Probably would be a DL character if Sakurai decides to use DL characters and wants Toad in.

Nintendo developers were shocked that Toad was so popular. They find him to be a little dull. I am paraphrasing an interview regarding Mario 3D world.

 

[Pacack]

Well, Zero Suit Samus could fight Samus.

Toad is also a race, so I think if Sakurai really wanted to add Toad, Smash logic allows his addition.

Probably would be a DL character if Sakurai decides to use DL characters and wants Toad in.

Nintendo developers were shocked that Toad was so popular. They find him to be a little dull. I am paraphrasing an interview regarding Mario 3D world.

They were "surprised" by his popularity, since they designed him to be kinda generic in the first place.

 

[Deleted member]

Here's something I want to speak of :

Sure we think Chorus Men has a chance,but what would they're moveset be? I haven't seen one yet.

Speaking of which,I personally would've preferred the Elite Beat Agents. They're a trio,and they sing. Can't really complain.

A possible move set could involve something like Ice Climbers but with three characters with a play style emphasized on rhythm-based attacks. Also note that the last Chorus Men lags behind the rest, so his attacks would likely do the same here. I will say, though, that out of the leaked Gematsu newcomers not in yet, they're the only one that currently interest me mainly because of how much I enjoy music.

 

[Bowserlick]

Projectiles existed in Smash. Megaman pushed this concept with at least half his moves being projectiles.

Extended move inputs exist. Examples are jabs, Snake's forward tilt (A input adds a second attack), and Link's forward Smash. Chorus Men could push this theme to the extreme with all moves (or most) having two input options for every man to attack.

 

[Pacack]

Projectiles existed in Smash. Megaman pushed this concept with at least half his moves being projectiles.

Extended move inputs exist. Examples are jabs, Snake's forward tilt (A input adds a second attack), and Link's forward Smash. Chorus Men could push this theme to the extreme with all moves (or most) having two input options for every man to attack.

That sounds like a lot of work...but they did do Rosalina and Luma...

 

[Will]

No one has opinions on the second question? awww.....

 

[Shagadelic_Baby]

Here's something I want to speak of :

Sure we think Chorus Men has a chance,but what would they're moveset be? I haven't seen one yet.

Speaking of which,I personally would've preferred the Elite Beat Agents. They're a trio,and they sing. Can't really complain.

Second off,do you think there will be a new member of the (Master/Crazy)Hand family? If so,who would it be? I'm thinking of a hand that uses more aerial attacks,while Master Hand uses more physical attacks and Crazy Hand uses more Special Moves. I'm going to call him Lust Hand. Don't judge it,it's a beautiful name.

Ludicrous Hand.

 

[Pacack]

No one has opinions on the second question? awww.....

Why have Lust Hand when you can have Mrs. Hand?

 

[Will]

Why have Lust Hand when you can have Mrs. Hand?

Because hands can't have genders.

 

[Bowserlick]

A hand with a sock puppet would be the way to go.

 

[Sobreviviente]

You can believe whatever you like

uhm thanks for let me be i guess

I know what your point is though, why you think miis could annoy people and why pokemon is not too far from smash when comes to violence, but hey, miis had been annoying people since day 1, and pokemon is rated E (like mii) while smash is T, these are facts.
Point is, pikachu is an E designed character in a T designed game, and no body has a problem with it, so, miis naturally wouldnt be a problem (mario kart, come on... ).

I'm just saying that i have reasons to think otherwise you, NOT that you are wrong.

 

[Will]

A hand with a sock puppet would be the way to go.

The Pinnochio of Smash Bros.? Sounds a bit to me.

 

[Pacack]

Because hands can't have genders.

 

[FlareHabanero]

The thing that makes me a tad enthusiastic about Chorus Kids is that there are strong concepts that I can easily be implemented. The thing though I will say is that seeing the Chrous Kids using the same mechanics used for Ice Climbers would be a tad imbalanced. Hence why I would prefer if the kids acted as one entity but they would act together for attacks, with an emphasis on maintaining an momentum.

 

[Bowserlick]

Bowser sock puppet would be cool. Orange yarn for his fiery hair.

 

[Deleted member]

The thing that makes me a tad enthusiastic about Chorus Kids is that there are strong concepts that I can easily be implemented. The thing though I will say is that seeing the Chrous Kids using the same mechanics used for Ice Climbers would be a tad imbalanced. Hence why I would prefer if the kids acted as one entity but they would act together for attacks, with an emphasis on maintaining an momentum.

Would certainly go in line with them coming from a rhythm game, so I too expect and am interested in such a concept.

 

[Leafeon523]

Bowser sock puppet would be cool. Orange yarn for his fiery hair.

I think this may be the antagonist for Mario's epic Yarn.

 

[MagnesD3]

My newest roster.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Would certainly go in line with them coming from a rhythm game, so I too expect and am interested in such a concept.

That's basically why I think it would be fitting. Having the tools to keep up the combos while having mechanics that rewards Chrous Kids for having that sort of mentality. For example, combos slowly increasing the power of attacks or using combos to upgrade their specials.

 

[Deleted member]

That's basically why I think it would be fitting. Having the tools to keep up the combos while having mechanics that rewards Chrous Kids for having that sort of mentality. For example, combos slowly increasing the power of attack or using the combos to upgrade their specials.

Seems complex on paper, but if Sakurai could pull it off without screwing it up like PT, it would be one of the most interesting mechanics in Smash history.


....still doesn't make me like them more than Wrestler...

 

[Will]

My newest roster.

An even fifty characters seems to be a stretch. I would prefer at the maximum a 48,but that's just me.

 

[MagnesD3]

An even fifty characters seems to be a stretch. I would prefer at the maximum a 48,but that's just me.

my roster size and format is going with the leak.

 

[Will]

my roster size and format is going with the leak.

How?! How did you catch my pun with 'strech'?!

 

[MagnesD3]

How?! How did you catch my pun with 'strech'?!

50-52 characters isnt a stretch at all really, but neither is 48.

 

[Pacack]

My newest roster.

I'm assuming these are supposed to be together.

Pac-Man in, 1000000/10

+King K. Rool
+Palutena
+Mewtwo
+Pac-Man

-Krystal
-No Takamaru?
-No Fire Emblem newcomer

Neutral:
Ridley
Snake

It's an okay roster, but it could easily be better.

6.5/10

 

[Spazzy_D]

My newest roster.

I have a hard time seeing Star Fox getting to 4 reps without Fire Emblem getting to at least 3. Also, you didn't include ANY of the popular sword dudes (if I don't get Takamaru, Shulk, OR Isaac I'll be kind of upset.)

 

[MagnesD3]

I have a hard time seeing Star Fox getting to 4 reps without Fire Emblem getting to at least 3. Also, you didn't include ANY of the popular sword dudes (if I don't get Takamaru, Shulk, OR Isaac I'll be kind of upset.)

To be fair I could easily see krystal, k.rool or the mii being replaced with chrom or shulk. I could also see a roster with snake cut and have the genmatsu leak come to fruition, Im just hoping that leak is false.

 

[Cobalsh]

I'm assuming these are supposed to be together.

Pac-Man in, 1000000/10

+King K. Rool
+Palutena
+Mewtwo
+Pac-Man

-Krystal
-No Takamaru?
-No Fire Emblem newcomer

Neutral:
Ridley
Snake

It's an okay roster, but it could easily be better.

6.5/10

Ahem, let me address some negative points here for you, Magnus.

• Krystal is more likely than it seems. I don't feel like explaining, ask Shorts if you want more info.
• No Takamaru is becoming a theme on rosters, and I think he'll be our greatest disapointment this game.
• No Fire Emblem newcomer is the only thing I can't agree with here, Magnus.

 

[Spazzy_D]

To be fair I could easily see krystal, k.rool or the mii being replaced with chrom or shulk. I could also see a roster with snake cut and have the genmatsu leak come to fruition, Im just hoping that leak is false.

If I was to make a personal wish list roster using the Best Buy leak I would take yours and remove Krystal, Wolf, Mewtwo, and Lucas. I would then add Takamaru, Chrom (or a less boring FE rep) , Shulk and Isaac, which is way too many dudes with swords but it's my list damn it!

I would then have a DLC Veteran Pack a few months down the road which would come with Mewtwo, Lucas, Wolf, and Roy.

 

[Pacack]

Ahem, let me address some negative points here for you, Magnus.

• Krystal is more likely than it seems. I don't feel like explaining, ask Shorts if you want more info.
• No Takamaru is becoming a theme on rosters, and I think he'll be our greatest disapointment this game.
• No Fire Emblem newcomer is the only thing I can't agree with here, Magnus.

Krystal can happen, but I doubt she'd happen before another Fire Emblem character or Takamaru.

Sakurai has mentioned how much he likes reviving franchises through Smash. That practically confirms a retro. The most plausible retro is Takamaru.

 

[andimidna]

Check the E3 2014 Rumor/Leak Discussion thread, it's not dead, but there's no new screens of it as of today.

I don't need that thread when I have eyes.
The only way the leak could possibly be real is if the picture with Ridley was posted by a different IP.
Ridley's icon is extremely flawed and that is no subjective opinion of mine. The evidence is there.
Here's a few of my posts:

Huh, I didn't notice that... is that for color swaps or team battles?
It would be pretty weird if it was called that.

Layout looks weird too. Makes it look like the only "options" is "colors"


But there's still no tint on the icon, which is what I assumed you were talking about. So that means Blue Ridley. Which is weird because- both the iconic Ridley and the clone Roidley are purple.

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You guys are just messing with me, right?

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The select icon has a red tint, sure. And that's nice. But it's irrelevant when it's being compared to the corner of a roster icon.
I guess I might be able to see a bit of red near the blue at the top of Marth's roster icon. But that is not enough to completely change the color of a character. Looking at the light blue at the bottom of the roster icon, it's the same as Lucario's... and Charizard's... it's the same. And we're talking about the bottom right of a roster icon. So why does that make any sense?

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Ridley's roster icon is not tinted blue to match being P2. The colors in the icon are not purple and black, they are:

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This isn't Ridley. And no, I'm not saying it's somebody else. It is supposed to look like Ridley... but it's fake!
Look at Ridley's blue outline (not the inside this time, the outside), it runs outside of the roster icon's gray outline. Now look at Marth's, which doesn't.
Look at the gray on the right side of Ridley's roster icon. It is thicker on the top than the bottom. That's it. I'm calling FAKE.


Everything is wrong with Ridley's slot. The leaker didn't even try to make him look right.[/quote

Doubters? Do I see doubters?!
MUST. MURDER. LEAK.

I'd like to bring up more inconsistencies I tried to a while ago and Crashboards wouldn't let me:

-Look at the black squares in the corners that connect the right and bottom gray outlines on each roster icon. The ones on the bottom row are dark, the ones on the middle row are light, and Ridley's is a small, misshapen, dark dot.
-The bottom gray outline of Ridley's box is thicker than the rest's
-The right gray outline of Ridley's icon is thicker, lighter, and more towards the left than it is on the bottom half, across the blue outline.

Mr. Leaker did an OK job at first, but he rushed Ridley, and now he's debunked.


I like Ridley too, but he'll get in based off his own merits.
He didn't need this leak. Plus, I'd rather play as a purple Ridley!
But I wouldn't want there to be a possibility of inside information getting handed out, leaks, just in general, are inherently bad IMO. Sure, if there was a roster leak with Ghirahim and Anna I'd be excited, but there goes the surprise factor, and instead of getting introduced to the characters by epic trailers, you see a picture. It's not better.
Sakurai has attempted to make Ridley a surprise character at this point.
So when he's revealed, it will be that much more satisfying!

100% dead.

 

[Will]

Mii's are both loved and hated in major ways. Mainly hatred comes from the Nintendo Land/Sports based moveset. They can do other stuff as well. And their popularity is rising,and they're being featured in so many games. They could be confirmed when Tomadachi Life comes out outside of Japan

Also,it's such a rare sight!

A DOUBLE DOUBLE-POST!

 

[MagnesD3]

Ahem, let me address some negative points here for you, Magnus.

• Krystal is more likely than it seems. I don't feel like explaining, ask Shorts if you want more info.
• No Takamaru is becoming a theme on rosters, and I think he'll be our greatest disapointment this game.
• No Fire Emblem newcomer is the only thing I can't agree with here, Magnus.

A 3rd rep for FE seems imminent, would sakurai really add another blue haired swordsman or will he revamp roy or will it be someone else... Also I think mii or (sadly) krystal or k. rool would be removed for that FE rep. But ultimately I am unsure.