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ultimatekoopa

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I edited my argument to respond to that. :)
Except that there is an actual possibility it could have been an alt costume, not saying it is true but you are not giving any real reason of why can't a character who was about to get picked can't have an alt costume
What did Sakurai said? That he'd be slow?
 

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@Lotus: Unfortunately that doesn't wash. Look at Marth's one - you can quite easily make out his eye under the counter. The blue in the other picture seems to be at about that level of transparency.
His eye is the middle. I'm talking about where his nose, which you can't see, would be.
 

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Oh god please, somebody make that introduction photo

"Gooey"
"... just sort of shows up."
:v
I would but I am unfortunately without my laptop for the weekend and limited to my phone.
And I'm probably the only person who would invest the time to make such a thing.
 
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If the leak is real than its Ridley, his name fits perfectly in the black bar and Anthony's would take up more than half of the bar, plus i am pretty sure the leaker said it was ridley.
 

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If the leak is real than its Ridley, his name fits perfectly in the black bar and Anthony's would take up more than half of the bar, plus i am pretty sure the leaker said it was ridley.
Not to mention the box its in has a blue border. If you notice the one with marth, marth has a red border and the player slot has a slight red tint. The picture that possibly has ridley shows a metroid symbol in the player slot and it has a blue-ish tint.

Honestly, because this leak includes Ridley, I'm less inclined to believe it. A, because ridley would be the funnest to tease in a fake leak and B, with what was implied in the direct, I think Ridley most likely wont make it.
 
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Not to mention the box its in has a blue border. If you notice the one with marth, marth has a red border and the player slot has a slight red tint. The picture that possibly has ridley shows a metroid symbol in the player slot and it has a blue-ish tint.
I don't know why this slipped my mind. Thank you.
 
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Yea, gotta love that red tint.

Seriously though, which picture are you looking at? I don't see a sign of it anywhere. There is still nothing to support this leak, and nothing to debunk it.
...moving on.
 

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Yea, gotta love that red tint.

Seriously though, which picture are you looking at? I don't see a sign of it anywhere. There is still nothing to support this leak, and nothing to debunk it.
...moving on.


Top right corner, what is the color option?
 

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Yea, gotta love that red tint.

Seriously though, which picture are you looking at? I don't see a sign of it anywhere. There is still nothing to support this leak, and nothing to debunk it.
...moving on.


 
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Top right corner, what is the color option?
Huh, I didn't notice that... is that for color swaps or team battles?
It would be pretty weird if it was called that.

Layout looks weird too. Makes it look like the only "options" is "colors"

But there's still no tint on the icon, which is what I assumed you were talking about. So that means Blue Ridley. Which is weird because- both the iconic Ridley and the clone Roidley are purple.

 

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Huh, I didn't notice that... is that for color swaps or team battles?
It would be pretty weird if it was called that.

Layout looks weird too. Makes it look like the only "options" is "colors"


But there's still no tint on the icon, which is what I assumed you were talking about. So that means Blue Ridley. Which is weird because- both the iconic Ridley and the clone Roidley are purple.



Well, there is this Ridley...
 
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Not exactly. Look where the red cursor is, and look where it's not. Where the cursor is has clear red overlay on Marth's image that the area around the cursor does not.
Look where the blue cursor is. Now look where it's not blue. Ridley is not blue. He's either a dark shade of purple, or he's black.


EDIT: Upon further glance, it gives off more of a coloration like that.
 
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Except that there is an actual possibility it could have been an alt costume, not saying it is true but you are not giving any real reason of why can't a character who was about to get picked can't have an alt costume
What did Sakurai said? That he'd be slow?
These are his exact words.

I think that would probably be impossible. [laughs] If we had put our best efforts into it, we may have been able to do it. But he might have been a little slow. Would that have been all right? [laughs]
He did say slow, but I think there's other stuff behind it personally.

And what i'm trying to say is, it's the character selection screen. The little squares that show the characters? None of the others have included alt costumes and it has never been seen before, only in the bottom part.

His eye is the middle. I'm talking about where his nose, which you can't see, would be.
I don't know what's up with your vision, but I can see his nose. The thing is semi-transparent, man.
 
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These are his exact words.



He did say slow, but I think there's other stuff behind it personally.
Taking Sakurai literally is a bad idea. He's a total troll, so his own statements are unreliable.

I don't know what's up with your vision, but I can see his nose. The thing is semi-transparent, man.
I made the wrong argument anyway. The square has a blue outline surrounding it, and if you look to the bottom left, you should see a blue Metroid symbol. That proves that whatever character is there, it's a Metroid character.
 

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Can someone clarify what we're arguing about, here? I don't know anything about red tints, blue tints, camp tents...
In the screenshots, Marth's icon is selected by a red P1 icon. In the player slot below, they show a big profile picture of Marth. The color behind him is slightly tinted red and the Fire Emblem sword icon is also red. Now, same thing in the Ridley picture, the player's icon is blue, for P2, and in the slot down below, the profile picture has a blue tint behind it and a blue Metroid logo.

Here, I drew circles around the things.

 
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In the screenshots, Marth's icon is selected by a red P1 icon. In the player slot below, they show a big profile picture of Marth. The color behind him is slightly tinted red and the Fire Emblem sword icon is also red. Now, same thing in the Ridley picture, the player's icon is blue, for P2, and in the slot down below, the profile picture has a blue tint behind it and a blue Metroid logo.
Oh. Well, I don't understand why that is such a big discussion topic for something I was sure is fake; it is immaterial.

Regardless, it is as uninteresting as I thought it was. Carry on!
 

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Oh. Well, I don't understand why that is such a big discussion topic for something I was sure is fake; it is immaterial.

Regardless, it is as uninteresting as I thought it was. Carry on!
Yeah, but it's a minor detail in favor of the picture leaks. The capital letters on Wii Fit Trainer still kinda throw it off for me, but we'll have to see at E3.
 

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You guys are just messing with me, right?



The select icon has a red tint, sure. And that's nice. But it's irrelevant when it's being compared to the corner of a roster icon.
I guess I might be able to see a bit of red near the blue at the top of Marth's roster icon. But that is not enough to completely change the color of a character. Looking at the light blue at the bottom of the roster icon, it's the same as Lucario's... and Charizard's... it's the same. And we're talking about the bottom right of a roster icon. So why does that make any sense?



Ridley's roster icon is not tinted blue to match being P2. The colors in the icon are not purple and black, they are:




This isn't Ridley. And no, I'm not saying it's somebody else. It is supposed to look like Ridley... but it's fake!
Look at Ridley's blue outline (not the inside this time, the outside), it runs outside of the roster icon's gray outline. Now look at Marth's, which doesn't.
Look at the gray on the right side of Ridley's roster icon. It is thicker on the top than the bottom. That's it. I'm calling FAKE.



Everything is wrong with Ridley's slot. The leaker didn't even try to make him look right.
 
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Look at Ridley's blue outline (not the inside this time, the outside), it runs outside of the roster icon's gray outline. Now look at Marth's, which doesn't.
Look at the gray on the right side of Ridley's roster icon. It is thicker on the top than the bottom. That's it. I'm calling FAKE.



Everything is wrong with Ridley's slot. The leaker didn't even try to make him look right.
I was honestly waiting for someone else to notice that. :p
 

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Oh god, if this was real (I do not think so) and it confirmed custom stocks, that would ROCK!

Finally, I could have my dream match: My one stock Captain Falcon vs. three Jigglypuffs with 99 stocks, no items, Final Destination.
 

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On the subject of Wii Fit Trainer's name, someone posted this on 4chan.

 

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I don't care if "Wii Fit TRAINER" doesn't deconfirm it-
Ridley's messed up icon DOES.

The leak is done. Dead. Thrown into a ditch and spat on.
Which means we get to party! :o
 

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I don't care if "Wii Fit TRAINER" doesn't deconfirm it-
Ridley's messed up icon DOES.

The leak is done. Dead. Thrown into a ditch and spat on.
Which means we get to party! :o
Careful. Ridley's icon being fake may support the rest of it being legit. Why is Ridley's the only one that's messed?
 

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I don't care if "Wii Fit TRAINER" doesn't deconfirm it-
Ridley's messed up icon DOES.

The leak is done. Dead. Thrown into a ditch and spat on.
Which means we get to party! :o
What's wrong with Ridley's icon? Other than the fact that the leaker couldn't freaking step back an inch and get Ridley in the picture?
 

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I don't care if "Wii Fit TRAINER" doesn't deconfirm it-
Ridley's messed up icon DOES.

The leak is done. Dead. Thrown into a ditch and spat on.
Which means we get to party! :o
Unfortunately, we can't party hard until EVERYONE comes to this completely logical conclusion. However, I speculate that will not happen until e3.
 

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What's wrong with Ridley's icon? Other than the fact that the leaker couldn't freaking step back an inch and get Ridley in the picture?
In contrast to Marth's red outline, Ridley's blue outline is outside the grey lining.
 

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What's wrong with Ridley's icon? Other than the fact that the leaker couldn't freaking step back an inch and get Ridley in the picture?
Because that's just what fake leakers do, they take the shots at ridiculous angles so it's harder to find errors and get people to speculate.
 
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In contrast to Marth's red outline, Ridley's blue outline is outside the grey lining.
Oh. That I can sort of agree with. But also keep in mind, Smash Bros. games have let you play with the camera angle before on menus. Also, maybe that little box is animated and moves. Just because it's a pixel off doesn't mean it's debunked.

The biggest killer to me is why he couldn't just photograph Ridley, but could photograph a picture JUUUUUUSSSTT exactly enough so we'd know it's a Metroid character that ends with Y. That's too well placed and convenient for a quick snap of a photo.
 

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Oh. That I can sort of agree with. But also keep in mind, Smash Bros. games have let you play with the camera angle before on menus. Also, maybe that little box is animated and moves. Just because it's a pixel off doesn't mean it's debunked.

The biggest killer to me is why he couldn't just photograph Ridley, but could photograph a picture JUUUUUUSSSTT exactly enough so we'd know it's a Metroid character that ends with Y. That's too well placed and convenient for a quick snap of a photo.
It doesn't need to be a quick snap. I think this is the Best Buy demo, if it's legit.
 

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Oh. That I can sort of agree with. But also keep in mind, Smash Bros. games have let you play with the camera angle before on menus. Also, maybe that little box is animated and moves. Just because it's a pixel off doesn't mean it's debunked.

The biggest killer to me is why he couldn't just photograph Ridley, but could photograph a picture JUUUUUUSSSTT exactly enough so we'd know it's a Metroid character that ends with Y. That's too well placed and convenient for a quick snap of a photo.
We objectively understand why he did not just photograph Ridley; it would establish his leak as fallacious because he does not have the website picture for Ridley.
 
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I don't care if "Wii Fit TRAINER" doesn't deconfirm it-
Ridley's messed up icon DOES.

The leak is done. Dead. Thrown into a ditch and spat on.
Which means we get to party! :o
Party? But I want it to be real.
I like Ridley.
 
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