Character Discussion Thread

[Starphoenix]

What about possibilities of new miscellaneous characters from unrepresented series?

How do you define miscellaneous?

 

[UltimateWario]

Perhaps we should move this conversation into something a little more civil and open minded... What about possibilities of new miscellaneous characters from unrepresented series?

Our biggest obvious contenders are probably Isaac and Shulk. Though I know nothing about Shulk, I'd still be very happy to see them both get in.

 

[Kenith]

That's what I keep saying, he'd be a perfect candidate as Super Smash Bros. equivalent to Sentinel. A massive character with surprisingly potent air combos.

So, basically, Sentinel, Nemesis, and Wesker all in one? Sounds great.

 

[Starcutter]

So he calls someone else ******** and he's okay. But I call him ******** and you're mad at me. Casual gamers -_-

I'm done with you fake *** casual Ridley ***s.
Keep on suckin off that purple cockroach, either way, his purple dildo *** ain't makin it in Smash.

A. please don't double post.
B. please leave off the foul language.
C. please don't target "casual gamers". (that's not a rule, just a pet peeve of mine)


MODS I CAUGHT THE BIG FISH

 

[Louie G.]

Our biggest obvious contenders are probably Isaac and Shulk. Though I know nothing about Shulk, I'd still be very happy to see them both get in.

How about mmmmmLittle Mac?

 

[SuperBrawler]

When did I call Sakurai ********. I asked if YOU think Sakurai is ********. He is smart enough to give Miis a moveset and make Ridley look good in Smash.

@bionic I never called anyone ********. I was pointing out that you shouldn't act like Sakurai is 7 years old.

 

[UltimateWario]

MODS I CAUGHT THE BIG FISH

How about mmmmmLittle Mac?

I always forget him because he (along with Palutena) is probably the most likely newcomer.

 

[SuperBrawler]

How about mmmmmLittle Mac?

I think he is practically the only shoo-in.

 

[False Sense]

That's my first thought after reading the first page.

How do you define miscellaneous?

I define miscellaneous as characters from, well, unrepresented series in Smash. Some examples already in the game would be Ice Climbers, Pit, Olimar, Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, and the like. Popular choices for such characters would be Little Mac, Shulk, Takamaru, or Lip. Obviously there are plenty more than just the ones I listed, though. Just as long as it's a new franchise representative, I would classify that as miscellaneous.

 

[SmashBro99]

Lloyd this month!

 

[FlareHabanero]

So, basically, Sentinel, Nemesis, and Wesker all in one? Sounds great.

More or less.

I mean the closest thing to that at the moment is Giga Bowser, and even then it's either a temporary transformation, only available via hacking, or an easter egg in the case of Project M.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Why not make Ridley a big character? That would automatically make him a unique character.

Lol!? Like Galactus from MvC

Spoiler

Maybe even Hugo sized!? If Ridley is to truly be that big he's gonna need a lot of super armor.
He's going to be punished hard on stages that have platforms

 

[Cpt.]

I think he is practically the only shoo-in.

I wouldn't go that far, but he is the most likely along with Shulk.

 

[Starphoenix]

I define miscellaneous as characters from, well, unrepresented series in Smash. Some examples already in the game would be Ice Climbers, Pit, Olimar, Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, and the like. Popular choices for such characters would be Little Mac, Shulk, Takamaru, or Lip. Obviously there are plenty more than just the ones I listed, though. Just as long as it's a new franchise representative, I would classify that as miscellaneous.

Okay. I just ask because some people think miscellaneous has to be some weird niche character like Diskun or Sukapon. If we're just talking about unrepresented characters, then my list is probably comprised of Little Mac, Mii, Shulk and Isaac.

 

[SuperBrawler]

I wouldn't go that far, but he is the most likely along with Shulk.

I like Shulk but like Isaac better.

 

[Deleted member]

To (hopefully) bring this thread to a more peaceful debate, there is something that concerns me in regards to Mewtwo.

And no, it's not having to do with his odds.

It's that I feel on technicality, he would be treated as a Newcomer.
In many fighting games, when a character that had been playable in the past, but not in the game prior to a new release, that returning character is labeled as a "new" character.
Judging by what "newcomer" means, I'm wondering if the same applies to Smash. That "Veterans" are those who were playable in the previous title while "Newcomers" are those who were not.

 

[Starcutter]

To (hopefully) bring this thread to a more peaceful debate, there is something that concerns me in regards to Mewtwo.

And no, it's not having to do with his odds.

It's that I feel on technicality, he would be treated as a Newcomer.
In many fighting games, when a character that had been playable in the past, but not in the game prior to a new release, that returning character is labeled as a "new" character.
Judging by what "newcomer" means, I'm wondering if the same applies to Smash. That "Veterans" are those who were playable in the previous title while "Newcomers" are those who were not.

maybe he will be treated as a newcomer but instead of newcomer it will say "returning" or something of that nature.

 

[Kenith]

To (hopefully) bring this thread to a more peaceful debate, there is something that concerns me in regards to Mewtwo.
And no, it's not having to do with his odds.
It's that I feel on technicality, he would be treated as a Newcomer.
In many fighting games, when a character that had been playable in the past, but not in the game prior to a new release, that returning character is labeled as a "new" character.
Judging by what "newcomer" means, I'm wondering if the same applies to Smash. That "Veterans" are those who were playable in the previous title while "Newcomers" are those who were not.

I agree he would be treated as a newcomer.
I think they'll have him with new moves and Mega Evolutions to give a "new car smell" so to speak.

 

[False Sense]

To (hopefully) bring this thread to a more peaceful debate, there is something that concerns me in regards to Mewtwo.

And no, it's not having to do with his odds.

It's that I feel on technicality, he would be treated as a Newcomer.
In many fighting games, when a character that had been playable in the past, but not in the game prior to a new release, that returning character is labeled as a "new" character.
Judging by what "newcomer" means, I'm wondering if the same applies to Smash. That "Veterans" are those who were playable in the previous title while "Newcomers" are those who were not.

Yes, I think that it would make sense for Mewtwo to be treated as a newcomer to Smash 4. I think this is actually beneficial to him, as it gives them an opportunity to restructure his moveset to be something a little more fitting for the most powerful pokemon to exist (bar our savior Arceus).

Out of curiosity, why do you say this concerns you? Is there something troubling about this prospect?

 

[SuperBrawler]

To (hopefully) bring this thread to a more peaceful debate, there is something that concerns me in regards to Mewtwo.

And no, it's not having to do with his odds.

It's that I feel on technicality, he would be treated as a Newcomer.
In many fighting games, when a character that had been playable in the past, but not in the game prior to a new release, that returning character is labeled as a "new" character.
Judging by what "newcomer" means, I'm wondering if the same applies to Smash. That "Veterans" are those who were playable in the previous title while "Newcomers" are those who were not.

Agree with legendofrob.
But a veteran is technically someone who has fought in a war. But considering it is Trophies or dolls or whatever... he might be treated as Newcomer but labeled Returning or something.

 

[Starcutter]

Agree with legendofrob.

YAY



.....alright, checked that off the bucket list.

next up, successfully predict someone virtually nobody else does. Kamek, don't fail me buddy.

 

[SuperBrawler]

YAY



.....alright, checked that off the bucket list.

next up, predict someone virtually nobody else does. Kamek, don't fail me buddy.

inb4 Kamek discomfirmed

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I define miscellaneous as characters from, well, unrepresented series in Smash. Some examples already in the game would be Ice Climbers, Pit, Olimar, Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, and the like. Popular choices for such characters would be Little Mac, Shulk, Takamaru, or Lip. Obviously there are plenty more than just the ones I listed, though. Just as long as it's a new franchise representative, I would classify that as miscellaneous.

As far as "miscellaneous" series go, I think Little Mac, Takamaru, and Shulk are likely. Isaac and Dillon might also be contenders. Me personally, I'd like it if Saki were to be playable, though while I think he's more likely than people give him credit for, he's still something of a pipe dream.

 

[Manny Toons]

Mewtwo regardless of being a veteran, I think should be treated as a newcomer as well. Give it a CGI trailer. Hype the **** out of that Pokemon. Revamp its moveset, give it one (or both?) of its mega evolutions. And label it as "returning" on the site. I think that would go well and could really get people excited.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Agree with legendofrob.
But a veteran is technically someone who has fought in a war. But considering it is Trophies or dolls or whatever... he might be treated as Newcomer but labeled Returning or something.

Wouldn't "returning newcomer" be an oxymoron?

He should get a trailer, since he was out of the final version of Brawl. Snake should also get a trailer like Sonic, since he's third-party.

Roy, Pichu, Young Link, and Dr. Mario should all be introduced together in one trailer if they return. They don't seem important enough for individual trailers.

next up, successfully predict someone virtually nobody else does. Kamek, don't fail me buddy.

What about the Grovyle from PMD2? I thought we had something special.

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[UltimateWario]

the most powerful pokemon to exist (bar our savior Arceus).

As of XY, Mewtwo has regained his rightful throne of the most powerful Pokemon in existence. Also Arceus is stupid and from the worst Gen.

I really like Mewtwo's old moveset. I hope they keep it similar, at the very least. He was a very unique character in design, if shaky in performance.

 

[SuperBrawler]

No one else predicts?

*crosses fingers for Pichu*

 

[FlareHabanero]

Yes, I think that it would make sense for Mewtwo to be treated as a newcomer to Smash 4. I think this is actually beneficial to him, as it gives them an opportunity to restructure his moveset to be something a little more fitting for the most powerful pokemon to exist (bar our savior Arceus).

I sort of disagree with overhauling the moveset, mainly because the tail attacks gives Mewtwo more range to utilize. The only attacks I would want changed are the down aerial, Confusion, and Disable, or at least buffed. I kind of like the idea of the down aerial creating a dark explosion similar to how the fan game Super Smash Bros. Crusade does it, mainly because it would look more visually appealing.

 

[Starcutter]

What about the Grovyle from PMD2? I thought we had something special.

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he's my 2nd most wanted (quote bumped him down. cave story is good, man). I just don't predict him, unfortunately. hey, if he got in I'd probably cry joyous tears.

 

[Headcrab Jackalope]

Also Arceus is stupid and from the worst Gen.

Ouch.

No one else predicts?

*crosses fingers for Pichu*

I'm probably one of the few people who wants Pichu back more than Mewtwo.

 

[Kenith]

As of XY, Mewtwo has regained his rightful throne of the most powerful Pokemon in existence. Also Arceus is stupid and from the worst Gen.

Ahem. Lucario. Weavile. Darkrai. Palkia. Magnezone. Come on, man. You're better than that.

No one else predicts?

*crosses fingers for Pichu*

I actually wouldn't mind Pichu.

 

[UltimateWario]

Ouch.

-gives band-aid-

Ahem. Lucario. Weavile. Darkrai. Palkia. Magnezone. Come on, man. You're better than that.

Rhyperior, Weavile, Gallade, Porygon-Z, Magnezone, Honchkrow, Mismagius...Gen IV's evos were fantastic. Hell, Gallade's my favorite Pokemon after Mewtwo. The rest of its roster...eh. Beyond that, the Pokemon mostly make the Gen, but not entirely. Beyond the Special/Physical split, Gen IV didn't do much.

 

[SuperBrawler]

Ouch.

I'm probably one of the few people who wants Pichu back more than Mewtwo.

@Chandelure

 

[False Sense]

As of XY, Mewtwo has regained his rightful throne of the most powerful Pokemon in existence. Also Arceus is stupid and from the worst Gen.

I really like Mewtwo's old moveset. I hope they keep it similar.

Well, that's techincally only his Mega Evolutions that have a higher base stat total than Arceus. His regular, default form is still lower than Arceus.

I sort of disagree with overhauling the moveset, mainly because the tail attacks gives Mewtwo more range to utilize. The only attacks I would want changed are the down aerial, Confusion, and Disable, or at least buffed. I kind of like the idea of the down aerial creating a dark explosion similar to how the fan game Super Smash Bros. Crusade does it, mainly because it would look more visually appealing.

I certainly am hoping Mewtwo at least gets buffed, and he definitely needs a better side and down special. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing his tail attacks be replaced with attacks focusing on using psychic energy for their range, but that's more of a character representation thing than a drastically needed change.

 

[SuperBrawler]

I don't really want his Mega Evos. Mostly because it would either be an FS I would hate, or there would be no point in being normal Mewtwo if the Mega Evos are stronger.

 

[UltimateWario]

Well, that's techincally only his Mega Evolutions that have a higher base stat total than Arceus. His regular, default form is still lower than Arceus.

It's still higher. <3

 

[SmasherMaster]

As of XY, Mewtwo has regained his rightful throne of the most powerful Pokemon in existence. Also Arceus is stupid and from the worst Gen.

Arceus will make his own Mega Stone out of rage.


I don't support or hate the idea of the Melee veterans (Mewtwo, Pichu, Roy, Young Link, and Dr. Mario) returning. I just want my secondaries to return.

 

[Cpt.]

Mewtwo regardless of being a veteran, I think should be treated as a newcomer as well. Give it a CGI trailer. Hype the **** out of that Pokemon. Revamp its moveset, give it one (or both?) of its mega evolutions. And label it as "returning" on the site. I think that would go well and could really get people excited.

I don't think his moves need to change. His side and down B just came out a little slow and had some bad frames at the end of them.

 

[JamesDNaux]

Me personally, I'd like it if Saki were to be playable, though while I think he's more likely than people give him credit for, he's still something of a pipe dream.

Funnily enough, I originally had Saki on my roster instead of Isaac, but apparently most people don't like Saki for some reason.

 

[Starphoenix]

As far as "miscellaneous" series go, I think Little Mac, Takamaru, and Shulk are likely. Isaac and Dillon might also be contenders. Me personally, I'd like it if Saki were to be playable, though while I think he's more likely than people give him credit for, he's still something of a pipe dream.

Saki is a mixed bag for me. While I love the two games in the series and think Saki looks cool, he doesn't seem to offer much in the way of gameplay. To be honest: he's boring. And all I do come up with is Nintendo's version of a cross between Colonel Radec and Isaac (PSABR). There isn't much material to pull from, and I think that has a lot to do with why he wasn't playable when he was considered years ago.