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Precisely (I was just using your post as a template, I wasn't meaning to direct any negative connotations at you). When I first joined Smashboards, I wasn't comfortable supporting Mewtwo; I am a hipster, as such, I do not like supporting mainstream characters, but the incompetence of the majority of speculators honestly makes Mewtwo seem like an unexpected choice. If, one year ago, I told myself that one day Mewtwo and Ridley would be interpreted as "surprise" characters... I obviously would not have believed myself.
Technically Zelda, if you count Zelda and Sheik separate characters.
Technically Mewtwo is a veteran not a newcomer.Um, hello, Mewtwo anyone?
He is the newcomer with the most evidence in his favor? Logic dictates that he is the most feasible choice.
Oh wait... Hoenn confirmed. Yep, first Lucario replaced Mewtwo, and then Greninja replaced Mewtwo, I suppose a 3rd generation Pokemon is the next to "replace" Mewtwo?
Yes; we have had Pokemon and Zelda both receive more than 4 character representatives.
Oh, right I suppose that is true. Guess I didn't think about that considering the official version they shared a selection portrait.Swampert is going to be in because Stealth Rocks.
Technically Zelda, if you count Zelda and Sheik separate characters.
Same applies to Pokémon. Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Chariard could count as separate characters, pushing the maximum character limit to six.
I allude to Mewtwo in that context for a few reasons; the first, Mewtwo is most likely out of any veteran to receive a move-set overhaul by the preponderance of the evidence. The second reason is that the most accurate term to describe Mewtwo is "returning veteran" which is applicable to everyone not a newcomer. The other reason is that many have not played Melee, as such, he will essentially be a newcomer to them. Another reason, we do not know if we are going to get the same Mewtwo, for all we know, we could get Femtwo or Mega Mewtwo Y, you never know. Lastly, he is still a newcomer by definition; however, every other character not announced would also be a newcomer by definition. So that aspect is immaterial.
I use to consider Zelda/Sheik and Pokémon Trainer as one character. But now I realize that they take just as much time to develop as any other character. I'm still going to miss switching. . .
The point is it that even if Jigglypuff is low priority, he does have the advantage of being so easy to make. This is what likely saved him in Brawl and what will probably get him to return for this game.
Not only that; but Jigglypuff is actually one of the more unique characters in the game with mechanics like the shield or sing/rest. She has a diverse play-style that has been present for 15 years, she isn't going anywhere just because people don't like her.
You seriously don't see all of the evidence for Mewtwo? I will get to it then...
+Pokemon characters are chosen based on "what's hot".
LOL old you reminds me of current me.
Well Sceptile is considered likely cause we already have a fire pokemon (charizard) and a water pokemon (Greninja) and both are from different generations... and even more now that there's going to be a remake of Pokemon Ruby and SaphiroLOL old you reminds me of current me.
Also if Sceptile is considered likely, I guess every other possible 3rd gen rep is. So guys, if you had to choose any 3rd gen rep, who would it be? Mine Gardevoir, that was actually my favourite pokemon in that gen.
+ Most requested character in all regions
I'm sorry, when was Genesect disconfirmed?
I wasn't expecting Genesect but when was him disconfirmed?
I agree, if I could have any 3rd generation representative, it would be Gardevoir.LOL old you reminds me of current me.
Also if Sceptile is considered likely, I guess every other possible 3rd gen rep is. So guys, if you had to choose any 3rd gen rep, who would it be? Mine Gardevoir, that was actually my favourite pokemon in that gen.
Sorry but it was already confirmed that she's going to come out in a pokeball
Exactly! I like my Pokemon to be included based on their merits. Not their typing or the year they were released.
Jigglypuff actually had a lot of reasons to be in Smash 64!
We haven't necessarily seen all of the Pokeball Pokemon though; he could have been saving them in anticipation for the confirmation.
Only reason she was added was that she was easier to develop with Kirby as a blueprint, although the anime may have had some influence.
Wasn't he in Charizard's trailer with Zoroark?
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I didn't see him; but I could obviously be mistaken.
Naaa i don't think so, we already have enough Hoenn pokemons and it makes more sense to spend time adding new generation pokemons than old generation pokemons even if they are going to add a new character of that generation cause... they already have many pokemons that represent that generation.
What? I was never disregarding the fact she was popular. It just seems to me that Puff being in because of her simple design is her only saving grace. And if they we're choosing a Pokemon character due to the anime, Meowth would've been the better choice for him being a much more recurring character in the anime moreso than Puff.
I'll ask the graveyard keepers. They should know.
Which would indicate? Might it be possible that people would purchase a game with Mewtwo in it? I feel as though you comprehend the reason, you have just come to a different conclusion (which was that Sakurai wouldn't put in Mewtwo for the same reason that Gamefreak did). How did you come to this conclusion? It certainly wasn't with any logical reasoning.@
The way I see it, Gamefreak only brought back Mewtwo to lure in the older generation of Pokemon players back into the game, same reason they only gave the Gen1 starters a Mega-Evo. I really don't see them using him again from this point on, and since Gamefreak influences pokemon additions to smash I doubt they would push for him all that much.
As far as popularity goes, Charizard beats Mewtwo hands down. In this regard I think Charizard takes the cake for Pokemon included due to popularity.
People always bring up the fact that Mewtwo was planned before, but at the end of the day the fact that matters is that he didn't make it in. For some reason or another Sakurai always puts him in the back of the production line. Which to me seems to be an indicator that he doesn't much care for him. Also if they (Sakurai, Gamefreak and Nintendo) thought that Mewtwo would be such a big copy seller in regards to the Smash franchise, they would've prioritized him in Brawl.
For me, the final nail in the Poke-coffin was the greninja trailer. Greninja's charge attack was an obvious misdirection intended to make people think it was Mewtwo, and it worked; just look at all the reaction videos on youtube as people clamor for Mewtwo before being surprised.
Look, I'm not anti-Mewtwo. I would be very glad to see him in the game (especially instead of Lucario), but I just don't think he's as likely as people hype him up to be.
Nope.... he wasnt (i just checked the video like 3 times to make sure)
