Character Discussion Thread

[Substitution]

You guys are not thinking "outside the box." Sakurai gave Rosalina a partner and a gravity shield, which was not canon in SMG.
Tom Nook could have furniture involved or even have Tanooki Mario's powers. It's really not that hard to make Tom Nook different.

Here, let me try.

A gimmick he can use is obtaining "debt" (damage) from the others.
But, with the damage he gets, the better his attacks are (essentially, the aura mechanic if it healed others).

And, he could have an attack that gives back all the damage (with the reasonable knockback) to the opponent.

 

[Starcutter]

Here's one point:
-Tom Nook provides something new and distinct that he get's added to the roster for his merits.

That can literally be said for any character.



Although....


We don't have a loan shark in smash yet...

 

[Headcrab Jackalope]

Aesthetically different to Villager? Yes.

But how could these moves be FUNCTIONALLY different from other characters?

How does any character that does basic punches or kicks become functionally different from each other? Wii Fit Trainer doesn't bring anything new aside from the aesthetics of her/his attacks.

 

[ChikoLad]

How does any character that does basic punches or kicks become functionally different from each other? Wii Fit Trainer doesn't bring anything new aside from the aesthetics of her/his attacks.

We don't know that yet. Game's not out, and we haven't seen her full moveset. For one thing, she does have a special move that basically spawns a re-skinned soccer ball item. That's a very unique move, and could add a lot to her playstyle.

 

[Starcutter]

Besides if sakurai really wanted he could make nook carry a big sack o' cash around as a weapon.

 

[BluePikmin11]

That can literally be said for any character.

Not all characters. Some characters like Goomba or Bulborb don't fit one of Sakurai's 4 character criteria, making people want the buy the game because of their playable appearance.

 

[Headcrab Jackalope]

We don't know that yet. Game's not out, and we haven't seen her full moveset. For one thing, she does have a special move that basically spawns a re-skinned soccer ball item. That's a very unique move, and could add a lot to her playstyle.

Point taken. But do we know if the soccer ball still functions the same? Not really an argument I know. There's really no way to argue against unknown info.

 

[UltimateWario]

Besides if sakurai really wanted he could make nook carry a big sack o' cash around as a weapon.

Tom Nook should be a Wario clone.

Then again, I'm not sure if Wario is as greedy as ol' Nook.

Personally, I don't think Animal Crossing will be getting another rep any time soon (if it does, it'll likely be as a last-minute clone or something) simply because Sakurai has a lot of important slots to fill this time around and a lot of pressure to do so. While Animal Crossing could pull of a second rep without much trouble, there are a lot of other, higher-priority things that need to get done before that point.

I would like to think Sakurai has at least an inkling of what's expected of him this time, since he's been looking a lot at pre-Brawl popularity and apparently fan demand (as far as Little Mac is concerned).

 

[Substitution]

Tom Nook should be a Captain Falcon clone.

Fixed.

 

[ChikoLad]

Honestly, I feel at this point, people are throwing character suggestions around just because.

I suppose that is the point of this thread, but still. I feel like a lot of suggestions are just "WELL, THEY'RE RECOGNISABLE...SORT OF...". There should be more than that, lots of Nintendo characters are recognisable. I understand we all get excited with Smash, and we all have wishlists. But try to really think about it.

To put it bluntly, none of the movesets suggested in this thread that I've seen have been even NEAR as interesting as the ones the confirmed newcomers have. Try to really think on that level, at least.

 

[BluePikmin11]

To put it bluntly, none of the movesets suggested in this thread that I've seen have been even NEAR as interesting as the ones the confirmed newcomers have. Try to really think on that level, at least.

Well, these ideas are only on paper here, wait till you see it in action.

 

[Sehnsucht]

We don't know that yet. Game's not out, and we haven't seen her full moveset. For one thing, she does have a special move that basically spawns a re-skinned soccer ball item. That's a very unique move, and could add a lot to her playstyle.

There's also the as-of-yet unknown functionality of her Neutral and Down Specials (which may or may not be the Breathe Deep pose and/or the Rising Sun move seen in photos). She may yet turn out to have some kind of gimmick mechanic, which would likely be health or fitness related.

 

[Starcutter]

Tom nook is more recognizable than the likes of shulk and Isaac to the average fan.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I don't believe this for one second. You have proof?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Cashman

Who does that sound like?

 

[False Sense]

There's also the as-of-yet unknown functionality of her Neutral and Down Specials (which may or may not be the Breathe Deep pose and/or the Rising Sun move seen in photos). She may yet turn out to have some kind of gimmick mechanic, which would likely be health or fitness related.

I've been wondering about that as well. Those two photos seem a little bit detailed to be simple taunts, and considering we're missing some special moves, those seem like plausible candidates. I'm not really sure what the rising sun could do (blast the opponent with light?), but I imagine Breathe Deep could be a possible self healing move, which could make the Trainer quite a bit more interesting.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Yo.... Stay on topic.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Yo.... Stay on topic.

Huh, were just talking about Nookster?
Were off-topic?

 

[Starcutter]

Tom nook is one of those characters I wouldn't be surprised no matter where they put him.

 

[Rockaphin]

In this game I think Tom Nook will be best as an assist trophy, but I expect him to be playable in the next Smash as the second Animal Crossing rep. Who knows, maybe Tom Nook is part of the Villager's Final Smash. That would cause a double-take especially since bees exist.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Yeah, the FS is the only thing I'm concerned of when it comes to Tom Nook, if Nook is not involved, then he's either an AT or playable. Hopefully the latter comes to effect if Sakurai runs out of options.

 

[Shorts]

Tom Nook should have been playable anyways.

 

[Autumn ♫]

I really don't see any reason why Nook should be playable, as for now, Villager seems to be enough.

 

[SuperBrawler]

How about a new topic: Earthbound.

 

[Substitution]

How about a new topic: Earthbound.

Speaking of which.
I hope they got rid of that grab lag...

 

[UltimateWario]

How about a new topic: Earthbound.

Okay.

You folks should be happy that you have as many characters as you do.

 

[Joe D.]

Give me Claus or give me death, and since death is probably the more likely option, i'll let one of you kill me.

 

[Starcutter]

Porky or bust

 

[Autumn ♫]

We should all know that Gigue is the best Mother newcomer we could have.

 

[Substitution]

We should all know that New Age Retro Hippie is the best Mother newcomer we could have.

Fixed.

 

[Rockaphin]

I'm fine with what Earthbound/Mother has, I consider Lucas somewhat lucky to be in Brawl. I'd like to see more differences between Ness and Lucas though. I think they have different abilities in the games. I want to play Mother 3, but I refuse to play it on an emulator and I'm not paying that hefty price either!

 

[Sehnsucht]

I haven't played the Earthbound/Mother games.

Therefore, Starman.

 

[SuperBrawler]

We should all know that Villager is the best Mother newcomer we could have.

Double fixed

I haven't played the Earthbound/Mother games.

Therefore, Starman.

I love the mother games. My favourite without a doubt.

EDIT: Whoops double post

 

[UltimateWario]

We should all know that Adam Malkovich is the best Mother newcomer we could have.

-Other Mshot-

 

[SuperBrawler]

-Other Mshot-

Mother M. The M is for Mother .

I'm fine with what Earthbound/Mother has, I consider Lucas somewhat lucky to be in Brawl. I'd like to see more differences between Ness and Lucas though. I think they have different abilities in the games. I want to play Mother 3, but I refuse to play it on an emulator and I'm not paying that hefty price either!

Different moves would be great. Especially since Lucas is one of my mains.

Give me Claus or give me death, and since death is probably the more likely option, i'll let one of you kill me.

I volunteer .

 

[Substitution]

I volunteer .

But you're such an adorable Pichu.

 

[AEMehr]

Tom Nook would easily be my choice for a second Animal Crossing character, but for the next game.

As for Earthbound, next character would need to be Porky inside the spider mech pls. A mech controlling fighter would be awesome in Smash.
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[collapse="I'm not letting this go Saturn."]

This is funny.

It's also true.

No, it's actually not.

EDIT: Oh, you said afar. What, suddenly DISTANCE matters?????? It automatically becomes an original idea on account of 2 inches?

Oh so she's always been able to CONTROL them right? She's always put them in HARMS way too. That's just something Rosalina is KNOWN for, controlling her Lumas and sending them into battle. What a heartless and cruel mother, I wonder why anyone would like her in the first place.

ALSO! Notice that Luma being by Rosalina's side is actually significant to her, unlike items which are not significant to Toad save for the fact that he sometimes runs the shop where you get them.

Good work missing the point!

What is your point you apparently are trying to make? I never said Toad didn't use items. I said they aren't significant or unique to him. Cosmos and Lumas are significant to Rosalina very much so.

Jumping isn't significant to Mario, everyone does it in Smash and in practically every video game too. Neither is the ability to throw a fire ball, just look at everyone else that can throw fire one way or another. Even in the Mario games, anyone who touches a Fire Flower can throw a fireball.
Better scrap those two moves, they aren't unique to Mario.

It doesn't matter if the items are unique to Toad, Toad is known for being the one who gives away the items. Which is why it makes complete sense for him to be the one that utilizes them.

Canon is irrelevant. Significance to a character is however. Everything Rosalina does is significant to her. Items are only significant to Toad in some games, so if you had one or two minor moves involving it that's fine, but you're suggesting an entire move set.

Yes. I'm suggesting that he focuses on Power-Ups for Special attacks, not for every single move out there. That would be incredibly boring really fast, that's like making Dixie use her hair for every attack.
He's going to still need to Punch, Kick, etc. for standard attacks, but Mario power-ups are something unexplored in Smash Bros, so it'd make a fine moveset for Toad.

I disagree. The items just seem to be more significant to the game itself, not to any specific character. I don't think Toad selling items sometimes is really a reason to do so. It's not like Toads are specifically known for being item people or anything.

Have you ever played a side scrolling Mario game? Seriously?

This is of course ignoring the numerous Toads have run shops in the Mario universe. Which is in essentially every game that has a shopping system, weird coincidence right?

Putting stuff in caps isn't really necessary.

It is used to emphasize my rage. I try to be very civil and calm, but it comes to point where a little CAPS lock is nice every now and then.

I don't think you're correctly perceiving my position in this argument.

You said a moveset can't be considered plausible, because some smash fan came up with the concept. You say Lucina can't be unique and can't be a stance character because some smash fan came up with the concept.
This is what you said, this is what I am arguing against. I can care less if Dixie, Toad, or Lucina do or don't get in; whether they end up being clones or semi-clones in Smash Brothers. But what you're saying is not only dead wrong, but a completely biased opinion.

A: I like how you're just taking that one sentence out of the quote. Ignoring the other statements connected to it.

B:

I'm pretty sure RareWare came up with it. Not Smash fans.

Hair =/= Moveset; I mean if Toad, the Mushroom Retainer, can't have Power-Ups as a moveset why should Dixie have a moveset solely focused on hair??

Again with the caps.

Again with the ignoring of my arguments!

Sorry, I just assumed you weren't actually suggesting he spawn mushrooms given how horrible of a proposal it would be. That's suppose to be potential???

Educate yourself.
It also makes more sense than a pacifist sending in her own children to fight for her.

But, nonetheless I don't really want to continue this. No offense, but I just don't really want to take the time to respond to these arguments as I don't find them very plausible and they just seem to loop and loop through the same argument.

Agreed, but I have no interest in continuing to partake in discussions with people who believe in their opinions way too much to the point where they'll disagree with their own argument in a situation that hinders their ideals whilst finding it perfectly viable in another situation when it supports their opinion.

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[SuperBrawler]

But you're such an adorable Pichu.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! MORTALS ARE HILARIOUS! PICHU LAUGHS!

 

[Substitution]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! MORTALS ARE HILARIOUS! PICHU LAUGHS!

Aw, but look at you!
You're so cute! And so loveable too!

 

[Autumn ♫]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! MORTALS ARE HILARIOUS! PICHU LAUGHS!

Oh, I see you're laughing at me. Allow me to destroy you once and for all!

 

[UltimateWario]

This thread is getting dangerously off-topic.

Do you guys think that there will be a notoriously difficult-to-unlock character in this game, similar to Mewtwo in Melee? I think it would be a fun reference to have to do the same exact thing to unlock him this time around.