Character Discussion Thread

[BluePikmin11]

Is it a crime to revel in unadventurous complacence?

I'll continue to gave at my navel for prediction inspirations, thank you very much.

Ok, I'll just watch you guys get the wrong characters in your prediction roster then.

 

[ChikoLad]

I don't care much for Bowser. Jr. He's a character who had potential and I loved where they were going with his relationship with Bowser. It was genuinely cute and I'm glad they didn't go with the "THEY'RE BOTH BAAAAD SO THEY DON'T GET ALONG" route, or the "son is incredibly obedient and lets the father control him, but the father doesn't value him because evil" routes, as they are really cliché. But like most characters who get introduced in the main Mario series and don't get in the RPGs much, their potential is squandered from then on. Bowser Jr shows up in Galaxy and NSMB games, but he just felt like a generic mook with no personality. And he hardly feels like Bowser's son, he's just there. Bowser never even ACKNOWLEDGES HIS EXISTANCE in the Galaxy games, from what I recall.

And I've already made it clear that I don't think moveset potential and a large game portfolio are at all criteria for getting into Smash, as Sakurai could make good with any character moveset wise, and appearing in lots of games doesn't mean a character's appearances were anything special.

Rosalina, is the one exception to the "Mario platformer characterisation" rule. Her character was portrayed in a genuinely charming and mysterious manner from beginning to end, she had a great purpose, and she had a beautiful backstory that dealt with the theme of tragedy IN A MARIO GAME. She may have only had a prominent story role for one game, but it left a mark on most people who experienced her story. The Sunshine ending was cute, but that's it. Rosalina's story and everything to do with her, made me feel a bunch of things, on both the happy and the sad side. And although she's appeared in only minor roles since, they at least expanded on her character in subtle ways (for example, she certainly knows how to have fun, and can be tease if she wants).

And anyone who doubted her moveset potential was blind. She took out Bowser's air fleet single-handedly, and she has control over space. There were tons of possibilities for even a solo moveset, let alone one where she summons Lumas to help her. A character doesn't have to actually have performed 20-odd signature moves to be considered viable for a Smash roster, they just need a distinct theme to work with. Remember, Captain Falcon's moveset was made for Smash, and Captain Falcon has barely engaged in actual fights outside of his Blue Falcon in any other media. In fact, most people remember him for his Smash portrayal.

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Also, this may give Snake believers some hope - it's old news, but when the Wii U launched, there was a glitch that allowed people to access a debug version of Miiverse. Only a few people encountered it, but there were some prototype communities, one being "Metal Gear Solid". There was also "Yoshi Land Wii U", and as we know, a Yoshi game for Wii U was announced in a Nintendo Direct shortly after.

http://www.destructoid.com/wii-u-user-accidentally-hacks-miiverse-for-a-minute-238932.phtml

 

[Kenith]

Ok, I'll just watch you guys get the wrong characters in your prediction roster then.

What's your idea of a "right" character, a guy from a weird 90's 3D game that made people sick?
...You'd be a fool to not to guess that.

 

[BluePikmin11]

What's your idea of a "right" character, a guy from a weird 90's 3D game that made people sick?
...You'd be a fool to not to guess that.

Harry is too obscure in my eyes to even be considered, but it is a nice hidden gem. I still support him, hoping that he will be the "historical" character of the roster.

 

[ChikoLad]

BubsyBubsyBubsyBubsyBoooobcaaaaaaat!!!

....oh wait, you guys weren't talking about Bubsy 3D...

 

[Sehnsucht]

Ok, I'll just watch you guys get the wrong characters in your prediction roster then.

Why don't you go pluck yourself, you sanctimonious Pikmin you. *shakes fist*

As an aside, I hope we're all on the same page here that there are precisely zero stakes in this roster prediction and speculation game - certainly not one's Pride, which similarly has zero value on the Internet.

 

[ChikoLad]

Why don't you go pluck yourself, you sanctimonious Pikmin you. *shakes fist*

As an aside, I hope we're all on the same page here that there are precisely zero stakes in this roster prediction and speculation game - certainly not one's Pride, which similarly has zero value on the Internet.

Actually, the thrill of speculating the Smash roster is much like the thrill of betting on the horse races.

Now if only we could actually make bets...

 

[Louie G.]

Anyone else hoping for Palutena on Friday?
I think that if a Direct is confirmed in the next few days she is a shoo-in reveal.

 

[josh bones]

....... Bandanna dee time? You thought I was gonna say big the cat weren't you?

 

[ChikoLad]

Anyone else hoping for Palutena on Friday?
I think that if a Direct is confirmed in the next few days she is a shoo-in reveal.

We said that about Dixie/Cranky/K. Rool and we got Mac.

 

[Sehnsucht]

Actually, the thrill of speculating the Smash roster is much like the thrill of betting on the horse races.

Now if only we could actually make bets...

So in other words, roster speculation is a tame and hollow pursuit?

 

[BluePikmin11]

Anyone else hoping for Palutena on Friday?
I think that if a Direct is confirmed in the next few days she is a shoo-in reveal.

Unless someone like Next Level Games tweets a post. Hoping Level-5 posts a tweet to hint Layton. C:

....... Bandanna dee time? You thought I was gonna say big the cat weren't you?

Dead horse.

 

[Oniric Spriter]

Anyone else hoping for Palutena on Friday?
I think that if a Direct is confirmed in the next few days she is a shoo-in reveal.

More like: hoping for her in every direct.

 

[Louie G.]

We said that about Dixie/Cranky/K. Rool and we got Mac.

Well we got Mac because of an anniversary, not a game release like DK's.
That being said it's Uprising's anniversary this weekend, and I could see a similar thing happening with Palutena.

 

[Substitution]

Well we got Mac because of an anniversary, not a game release like DK's.
That being said it's Uprising's anniversary this weekend, and I could see a similar thing happening with Palutena.

Implying we're getting a Direct.

 

[Louie G.]

Implying we're getting a Direct.

No, I'm speaking as if we are getting a Direct.
I hope we do, and in the event that we do a Palutena reveal would be perfect.

 

[BKupa666]

"X was not a good idea until Sakurai made it a good idea." Siiiigh.

For a long time before Brawl, Jr. used to be my most wanted, but I soured on the character after his overexposure in the "New" Mario series. I still would have preferred him to Rosalina, but in hindsight, it's obvious why he and the rest of the expected Mario newcomers missed out. All of them were involved in this silly rat race where none stood out as the clear best choice to add, and yet the collective focus on Mario characters helped the concept of a "Mario Newcomer" stand out. Sakurai takes note and makes that newcomer the one he has the best idea for, which happened to be Rosalina.

 

[Kenith]

Harry is too obscure in my eyes to even be considered, but it is a nice hidden gem. I still support him, hoping that he will be the "historical" character of the roster.

Um...I was talking about Virtual Boy Wario.

Spoiler

"X was not a good idea until Sakurai made it a good idea." Siiiigh.

For a long time before Brawl, Jr. used to be my most wanted, but I soured on the character after his overexposure in the "New" Mario series.

My response to literally every Mario concept.

 

[ChikoLad]

So in other words, roster speculation is a tame and hollow pursuit?

It's all about the debates.

And overzealous fans.

 

[josh bones]

Since bluepikmin11 is a meanie, lets discuss punch out reps! Big is best punch out rep

 

[Substitution]

Since bluepikmin11 is a meanie, lets discuss punch out reps! Big is best punch out rep

I say Soda Popinski!

 

[BluePikmin11]

King Hippo is best second Punch-Out character. Bald Bull has his lightning stolen with Mac's Rush move and Doc Louis doesn't provide anything new in general that Mac doesn't. (Besides chocolate that would be the sole reason that gives him a playstyle)

 

[BKupa666]

Punch Out!! characters?

I'm going to leave this link here, and also this one. Several years ago, the Make Your Move contest had a challenge to test the idea of whether a good, original moveset could be made for any character...and what better characters to test that out on than the seemingly-generic Punch Out!! boxers? "All they can do is punch," right? Right??

In Link #1, Ctl. + F to search for Little Mac, Mr. Sandman, Bald Bull, Great Tiger, Disco Kid, Bear Hugger (two of them), Von Kaiser, and King Hippo (and Joe Calzaghe, a real-life boxer, too).

In Link #2, Ctl. + F to search for Super Macho Man, Mr. Dream, and Aran Ryan.

Enjoy!

 

[IsmaR]

Doc invented Little Mac, I think that's providing more than enough.

Hell if you want to move away from "boxing only" things, he could use Mac's bike.

 

[Starcutter]

Since bluepikmin11 is a meanie, lets discuss punch out reps! Big is best punch out rep

 

[KingofPhantoms]

A second Punch-Out character is something I'm positive we won't get.

If anything I can see King Hippo being an Assist Trophy.

 

[Kenith]

Punch Out!! characters?

I'm going to leave this link here, and also this one. Several years ago, the Make Your Move contest had a challenge to test the idea of whether a good, original moveset could be made for any character...and what better characters to test that out on than the seemingly-generic Punch Out!! boxers? "All they can do is punch," right? Right??

In Link #1, Ctl. + F to search for Little Mac, Mr. Sandman, Bald Bull, Great Tiger, Disco Kid, Bear Hugger (two of them), Von Kaiser, and King Hippo (and Joe Calzaghe, a real-life boxer, too).

In Link #2, Ctl. + F to search for Super Macho Man, Mr. Dream, and Aran Ryan.

Enjoy!

I'm sorry, I was too distracted by the fact there's a moveset for Dead Hand. You know, the miniboss from Ocarina of Time?

 

[BKupa666]

I'm sorry, I was too distracted by the fact there's a moveset for Dead Hand. You know, the miniboss from Ocarina of Time?

Make Your Move was and still is a treasure trove for fantastic movesets for ridiculously obscure characters. There are plenty of other characters on that list I'm sure would interest some of you.

 

[Starcutter]

Back to punch out characters, Doc Louis needs some credit. After all, he invented the star punch.

Wonder how he'll be in smash 4? Betting on assist trophy and in Mac's win animations.

 

[ChikoLad]

Since bluepikmin11 is a meanie, lets discuss punch out reps! Big-Mega is best punch out rep

Fixed.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Back to punch out characters, Doc Louis needs some credit. After all, he invented the star punch.

Wonder how he'll be in smash 4? Betting on assist trophy and in Mac's win animations.

Mac's Entrance and Win Animation

 

[FalKoopa]

We don't really need a 2nd Punch-Out character. Besides, we already have Donkey Kong.

Doc Louis should have some codecs like in Little Mac's trailer though.

 

[Kenith]

Make Your Move was and still is a treasure trove for fantastic movesets for ridiculously obscure characters. There are plenty of other characters on that list I'm sure would interest some of you.

That's great. I will look through these later.
In a world where I get whatever I want, Dead Hand is definitely playable. XD

Back to punch out characters, Doc Louis needs some credit. After all, he invented the star punch.
Wonder how he'll be in smash 4? Betting on assist trophy and in Mac's win animations.

Um, winning animations at best. Though I would be disappointed if he wasn't.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

We don't really need a 2nd Punch-Out character. Besides, we already have Donkey Kong.

Doc Louis should have some codecs like in Little Mac's trailer though.

I've been thinking about that myself. Maybe Little Mac can perform a secret taunt during a match, and depending on his dilemma, Doc Louis will bring up some advice for him. Of course, unlike the other secret taunts, Little Mac could perform his twice, since Doc Louis offers advice up to two times in Punch-Out!!.

 

[Starcutter]

Are there any new series that deserve 2 characters?


The closest thing I can think of is animal crossing.

 

[Joe D.]

You know, let's talk characters we know have ZERO chance of getting in, but still can discuss.

Smash Bros need some f****** science, so I always imagined how they could make Colress a playable character. For those of you who are unaware, he was a main antagonist in Pokemon Black/ White 2.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I was kind of expecting him to be like Mac's Brawl-esque Pokemon Trainer

 

[SuperBrawler]

You know, let's talk characters we know have ZERO chance of getting in, but still can discuss.

Smash Bros need some f****** science, so I always imagined how they could make Colress a playable character. For those of you who are unaware, he was a main antagonist in Pokemon Black/ White 2.

Duster.

 

[BluePikmin11]

You know, let's talk characters we know have ZERO chance of getting in, but still can discuss.

Smash Bros need some f****** science, so I always imagined how they could make Colress a playable character. For those of you who are unaware, he was a main antagonist in Pokemon Black/ White 2.

I want N.

 

[Kenith]

You know, let's talk characters we know have ZERO chance of getting in, but still can discuss.

So, pretty much the same thing I always talk about? Will do!