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KingofPhantoms

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As I said last night, if we get any Mario newcomer at this point, it'd probably be a last minute semi-clone like Dr. Mario, or Bowser Jr. to a lesser extent since some of Bowser's moves wouldn't really work well with Jr., being smaller and physically weaker than Bowser. This being said, a 6th Mario character is still very unlikely.

If we were to get another Mario character, I'd still advocate for Bowser Jr.
 
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Yeah sure, now let me tell you why you're so full of bull**** now.
This is funny.

Rosalina controlling a Luma from afar is simply an IDEA created by Masahiro Sakurai
No, it's actually not.

EDIT: Oh, you said afar. What, suddenly DISTANCE matters?????? It automatically becomes an original idea on account of 2 inches?

ALSO! Notice that Luma being by Rosalina's side is actually significant to her, unlike items which are not significant to Toad save for the fact that he sometimes runs the shop where you get them.

for a SMASH BROTHERS game. She's NEVER willingly sent out one of her children to fight, she's NEVER been able to spawn one out of nowhere, she's NEVER shown the ability to have the cosmos under her dress.
What is your point you apparently are trying to make? I never said Toad didn't use items. I said they aren't significant or unique to him. Cosmos and Lumas are significant to Rosalina very much so.


Rosalina's existing moveset makes no sense when it comes to Mario canon.
Canon is irrelevant. Significance to a character is however. Everything Rosalina does is significant to her. Items are only significant to Toad in some games, so if you had one or two minor moves involving it that's fine, but you're suggesting an entire move set.

But Sakurai thought of it, so it is obviously okay now because he made it since he is the greatest totally and all is now canon
okay then.....................................what?

Toad utilizing power ups for a potential moveset is simply an IDEA created by SMASH BROTHERS fans. When in reality Toad HAS used power-ups in previous games, Toad IS the one who runs the stores that HAS the power-ups, Toad IS the one that GIVES the items to the Mario Bros.
I disagree. The items just seem to be more significant to the game itself, not to any specific character. I don't think Toad selling items sometimes is really a reason to do so. It's not like Toads are specifically known for being item people or anything.

Toad's proposed moveset MAKES SENSE when it comes to Mario canon.
Putting stuff in caps isn't really necessary.

But no it's terrible and will never happen since some smash fan made it what a nerd
I don't think you're correctly perceiving my position in this argument.

Oh you think Dixie Kong should use hair if she was playable?? lolnope not gonna happen because some smash fan thought of it
A: I like how you're just taking that one sentence out of the quote. Ignoring the other statements connected to it.

B:

I'm pretty sure RareWare came up with it. Not Smash fans.

He has an affinity to GIVE power-ups. Why shouldn't he USE them if need be?
Why can't the RETAINER use the items he RETAINS?? How is that NOT a big enough connection for you? The ITEM specialist should use the ITEMS.
Again with the caps.

>Implying I was referring to those specifically
>Ignores immense power and ability to spawn mushrooms and release spores
Sorry, I just assumed you weren't actually suggesting he spawn mushrooms given how horrible of a proposal it would be. That's suppose to be potential???

But, nonetheless I don't really want to continue this. No offense, but I just don't really want to take the time to respond to these arguments as I don't find them very plausible and they just seem to loop and loop through the same argument.
 
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I simply think we should have gotten Bowser Jr. to begin with if any Mario character, but what's done is done. I was kind of a fan of not getting a Mario newcomer in general actually, I don't think any of the potential newcomers from that franchise are as interesting or notable as many other potential newcomers.
 

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Personally, I think if Jigglypuff being Fairy type had involvement in Smash, it should be a recovery move or a fairy type Final Smash that Jigglypuff can learn in the games.
I'd like to see an older veteran or two get an overhaul so that things don't seem like they'e getting stale, and Jigglypuff would be the perfect character to do so with. I know very little about Pokemon outside of the Pokemon themselves, so I couldn't tell you what moves specifically I think should be put to use, but I'm sure giving Jigglypuff a Fairy overhaul while simultaneously keeping her as a lightweight character who's slow on the ground and great in the air is possible.
 

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Speaking of Wario I got WarioWare: Twisted.
This is still clear bias you have against them. I for one thought I hated the idea of Diddy Kong in Smash, but that ship has sailed. The same may happen to you eventually.
True. But I am confused because I really can't even think of a reason I hate them, I just do.
Needed more fixing. :troll:
Dr. Waluigi is better than all of the rest.
And he can actually poison people because he'd be a terrible doctor.
I can see why, his prominence was kinda big before 3D World.
Ludwig Von Koopa is better :troll:.
 

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I honestly don't see why people think we should have gotten Bowser Jr
Well, ever since his debut, he's been a pretty prominent recurring character in the franchise, appearing in quite a few main series Mario games in some way, and of course he had a very large role in Sunshine. Plus his signature paintbrush could give him a pretty unique fighting style. He didn't really have much going against him aside from competition from other Mario candidates, and a lot of us (myself included) thought he was the most likely choice. Of course that didn't end up happening, but I think there's plenty of justification for him.
 

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Importance to the series really got over you people (including me sadly) for the reason Bowser Jr. should be included.
Not going to lie, before Rosalina's reveal I thought it would either be Bowser Jr. or Paper Mario. Rosalina was my third guess.
 

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I would've rather had Jr. than Rosalina, though with the way Miyamoto Nintendo's been circlejerking around her lately, I wasn't surprised when she was revealed. That said, I definitely don't want a sixth goddamn Mario character.

I think Jr's cute. His dynamics with Bowser are also excellent, because he brings out the absolute best in Bowser whenever he's around. Seeing Bowser be a good father and king is always my favorite moment, and even the small things tend to bring a smile to my face (such as when Bowser curbs an overzealous Jr. with a loving grab of his bandana in the opening to one of the Mario and Sonic games).

Besides, his paintbrush would be fun. Nintendo's insistence on shoving Rosalina down my throat has heavily dampened my previous respect and interest in the character.
 
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I would've rather had Jr. than Rosalina, though with the way Miyamoto Nintendo's been circlejerking around her lately, I wasn't surprised when she was revealed.

I think Jr's cute. His dynamics with Bowser are also excellent, because he brings out the absolute best in Bowser whenever he's around. Seeing Bowser be a good father and king is always my favorite moment, and even the small things tend to bring a smile to my face (such as when Bowser curbs an overzealous Jr. with a loving grab of his bandana in the opening to one of the Mario and Sonic games).

Besides, his paintbrush would be fun. Nintendo's insistence on shoving Rosalina down my throat has deafened my previous respect and interest in the character.
If he doesn't make it as a playable character, I think he'd function well as an assist trophy too. I could see him flinging paint that causes different affects upon contact or flying around in the Koopa Clown Car while dropping bombs. I personally like Rosalina a wee bit better, but not by much.
 
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I'll just say this, if the series has it's merits and is able to provide a unique character to the roster, they will be considered. For Bowser Jr., I don't think his paintbrush is enough to give Mario 6 characters.
 

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This is still clear bias you have against them. I for one thought I hated the idea of Diddy Kong in Smash, but that ship has sailed. The same may happen to you eventually.
How...how do you hate the idea of having Diddy Kong in Smash...?

I would've rather had Jr. than Rosalina, though with the way Miyamoto Nintendo's been circlejerking around her lately, I wasn't surprised when she was revealed. That said, I definitely don't want a sixth goddamn Mario character.

I think Jr's cute. His dynamics with Bowser are also excellent, because he brings out the absolute best in Bowser whenever he's around. Seeing Bowser be a good father and king is always my favorite moment, and even the small things tend to bring a smile to my face (such as when Bowser curbs an overzealous Jr. with a loving grab of his bandana in the opening to one of the Mario and Sonic games).

Besides, his paintbrush would be fun. Nintendo's insistence on shoving Rosalina down my throat has heavily dampened my previous respect and interest in the character.
How have they been "circlejerking" around Rosalina? Super Mario 3D World was made by the same team as the Galaxy games and had a lot of references to it (all of World Star) so her being playable in that really isn't that surprising in hindsight.
And her appearance in Smash Bros, I feel, wasn't entirely determined by the former game (though perhaps it serves to justify it)
 

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Prior to Rosalina being revealed, Junior and Toad were the only good ideas.
 

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I like Bowser Jr. and Rosalina about the same, but for different reasons. I think @ UltimateWario UltimateWario pretty much summed up why I like Bowser Jr, but Rosalina is the first female to appear in mainstream Mario that wasn't in immediate distress. It was a breath of fresh air, because I don't like Peach or Daisy very much.
 

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I'm more glad I got Rosa instead of all the other choices really.
 

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Save for Mega Man and Little Mac, the other three newcomers were a complete yet pleasant surprise to me. I wanted Rosalina but I considered her unlikely. Plus. I preferred (and still do) prefer Bowser Jr. I considered the Villager void due to Sakurai's previous statements and I thought Tom Nook would rep the AC franchise. Ms. Fit was a complete surprise that I never would have expected. Overall, I'm surprised at these 3 but I have come to like them.
 

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If you're surprised, then you guys should really expand and research other choices so that nothing surprises you and you come to like the newcomers before they are possibly confirmed.
 

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If you're surprised, then you guys should really expand and research other choices so that nothing surprises you and you come to like the newcomers before they are possibly confirmed.
Eh, I could honestly care less about newcomers.
I'll just see who we get and go from there.
 

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I'm just here to see the sorrow of everyone else.
To drink their tears of sadness. :reverse:
Your inverted smiley face disturbs me...

If you're surprised, then you guys should really expand and research other choices so that nothing surprises you and you come to like the newcomers before they are possibly confirmed.
That's a great idea! Why haven't we been doing that for months now??
 

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Now what fun would that be, Blue?
Fun to understand Sakurai's mighty choices, but it's worth getting predictions right, and it really helps me appreciate other franchises people may not see or care about.
That's a great idea! Why haven't we been doing that for months now??
Because, laziness, despite all of you guys coming here all the time to predict the roster.
 
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Fun to understand Sakurai's mighty choices, but it's worth getting predictions right, and it really helps me appreciate other franchises people may not see or care about.

Because, laziness, despite all of you guys coming here all the time to predict the roster.
Is it a crime to revel in unadventurous complacence?

I'll continue to gave at my navel for prediction inspirations, thank you very much. :troll:
 
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