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Christ, that's one of the most deafening sounds I've heard in gaming history
Are you talking about bird Ridley, or Fusions Ridley?


I've completely lost my mind at this point that's how dumb it is
(Ignores rant because I have nothing to say about it.) Ur ma gurd the puppys so cute! (It's in an anime so I don't wanna know what happens to it during the explosion. I'll just pretend it's okay. :crying:)
 

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Are you talking about bird Ridley, or Fusions Ridley?

(Ignores rant because I have nothing to say about it.) Ur ma gurd the puppys so cute! (It's in an anime so I don't wanna know what happens to it during the explosion. I'll just pretend it's okay. :crying:)
Fusion's Ridley X
THAT SCREECH is something I say is only topped by the death howl of Marx Soul.
 

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Ur ma gurd the puppys so cute! (It's in an anime so I don't wanna know what happens to it during the explosion. I'll just pretend it's okay. :crying:)
The pug is from an anime called Space Brothers his name is Apo and he is fine, he is just looking at an exposion from a distance
 
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Mii's should be allowed online. I mainly only play online so I feel like I am missing out on three characters.

I wonder if more people would buy costumes for Mii's if the characters had access to online fighting.

Use the Rabbit, Cat and Dog from Streetpass and we're good

I could see it being Dixie.

Not so much with the Chorus Kids, I think they're in the same boat as the ICs and won't show up until Smash 5.
Chorus Kids are fine, if what we thought they would work like is true.
Which is that it only looks like three characters in the same vein as duck hunt duo, there's clearly more than one but they work as one, the frontone fights normally and the other two are used to extend attack range and or power



done by @Maraphy
 
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So...

More than two characters?

Awesome.

At least.

I hope more than two.

@PushDustIn

What do people usually mean when they say the Japanese equivalent of "several."
 

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Throw enough money at something and things change rather quickly
That's a horrible reason to expect Ridley.

Two games with Ridley at the forefront of the popular contenders and a statement from Sakurai suggest Nintendo is not going to go over his head or throw money at the problem on this one.

Ridley has been strongly demanded for a decade. It's time people stop using excuses as to why Sakurai might add him now as if he just started getting popular.
 

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That's a horrible reason to expect Ridley.

Two games with Ridley at the forefront of the popular contenders and a statement from Sakurai suggest Nintendo is not going to go over his head or throw money at the problem on this one.

Ridley has been strongly demanded for a decade. It's time people stop using excuses as to why Sakurai might add him now as if he just started getting popular.
I agree with you there, Ridley has been important to Metroid for years.
 

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I agree with you there, Ridley has been important to Metroid for years.
And was notably requested for Melee iirc, but one of the single most requested in Brawl and for Smash 4.
NOTHING in Ridley's situation has changed because of DLC from the main disc, other than his Other M design is in the game as a boss whose trophy treats him as a single, united entity of Ridley, instead of just a clone "Roidley."
 
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If Sakurai is going all out on fanservice, hopefully that means if Dixie is preplanned, she won't interfere with K. Rool. Ideally, he waits and releases a double trailer of them.

EDIT: Also why are some of you so hung up on "surprise characters" at this stage in the game? These are pay to play. I don't want Boom Boom playable because "omg so surprising!!!" I'm sorry that your faves aren't popular, but this was the name of the game the moment DLC was announced.
 
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That's a horrible reason to expect Ridley.

Two games with Ridley at the forefront of the popular contenders and a statement from Sakurai suggest Nintendo is not going to go over his head or throw money at the problem on this one.

Ridley has been strongly demanded for a decade. It's time people stop using excuses as to why Sakurai might add him now as if he just started getting popular.
I just find it silly from a business perspective to deny supply when there is demand.
 

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I just find it silly from a business perspective to deny supply when there is demand.
I ask, again.
What makes Ridley more likely now than the main disc where there's no evidence he was even worked for as a fighter instead of straight as a boss?
Because there are PLENTY of "Fanservice" characters that could fill in this role that DON'T contradict Sakurai because he's said that they're impossible or improbable as a fighter two games running.
 
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Ridley may be a fan favourite, but he's easily the most controversial. The hate would most likely go away if he did become playable, but Sakurai said no. Do I agree with him? Not at all, Ridley's still my 2nd most wanted character, but being realistic, he's not happening until Smash 5 at the earliest
 

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All I'm going to say is know the difference between "can't" & "won't"

Ice Climbers can't be in Smash right now

Sakurai won't put Ridley in for arbitrary reasons.

However since the rest of these characters are going to be "fan-service" why not service the fans and gove them something they've been wanting for years?
 
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I ask, again.
What makes Ridley more likely now than the main disc where there's no evidence he was even worked for as a fighter instead of straight as a boss?
Because there are PLENTY of "Fanservice" characters that could fill in this role that DON'T contradict Sakurai because he's said that they're impossible or improbable as a fighter two games running.
He said that only once (in Brawl interview, he said he would be possible if enough effort would be put into it) and that it wouldn't be right because he won't be menacing anymore and because he would break the balance. Even though SSB4 Ganondorf is exact opposite of threatening unlike TP Ganondorf he was based on and we also have Palutena, a goddess, as one of the worst characters in the game
 
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They actually do know about he metroid thing, Reggie said it in an interview that they are aware.
And he used wrong comparison btw. Wind Waker still was LoZ game. Just with different art style. So, perhaps they don't know what exactly is wrong with it.
 
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And he used wrong comparison btw. Wind Waker still was LoZ game. Just with different art style. So, perhaps they don't know what exactly is wrong with it.
Actually, I did heard a lot negative stuff when tww was announced (which actually shocked me....).

But given how they communicate lately, I don;t think he lies tbh.....
 

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All I'm going to say is know the difference between "can't" & "won't"

Ice Climbers can't be in Smash right now

Sakurai won't put Ridley in for arbitrary reasons.

However since the rest of these characters are going to be "fan-service" why not service the fans and gove them something they've been wanting for years?
There's a limited number of spaces and alternative characters both potentially more successful on the ballot and who Sakurai may feel can be implemented better.
 

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Actually, I did heard a lot negative stuff when tww was announced (which actually shocked me....).

But given how they communicate lately, I don;t think he lies tbh.....
Really? I though it was just because "Waah, LoZ isn't 4 kidz! RUINED FOREVER!" and not because it was about Link and 3 other guys shooting stuff with arrows, then going to the next level once everything is dead.
 

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Really? I though it was just because "Waah, LoZ isn't 4 kidz! RUINED FOREVER!" and not because it was about Link and 3 other guys shooting stuff with arrows, then going to the next level once everything is dead.
no, what Reggie said is the truth.

people really complained mostly because it was different. I still am shocked that it happened, but it really did.

I make the parallel with spm tbh, most of the complains I got was that it wasn;t sequelising TTYD while tbh with you, it shouldn;t have sequelised it int he first place and the way spm handled the series was quite awesome. I still agree there;s flaws, but it did really good stuff.

Wind waker was kinda like that. having played that game, I no longer understands these complaints....
 

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He said that only once (in Brawl interview, he said he would be possible if enough effort would be put into it) and that it wouldn't be right because he won't be menacing anymore and because he would break the balance. Even though SSB4 Ganondorf is exact opposite of threatening unlike TP Ganondorf he was based on and we also have Palutena, a goddess, as one of the worst characters in the game
No.
He said it twice, in two separate ways.
Post-Brawl: Ridley is probably impossible as a fighter. If we really worked on it, maybe we could. But he'd be pretty slow.

Post-Smash 4: Ridley works far better as a boss than he could as a fighter. As a fighter, he would lose the intimidation that makes him Ridley.

He isn't happening as DLC.


Really? I though it was just because "Waah, LoZ isn't 4 kidz! RUINED FOREVER!" and not because it was about Link and 3 other guys shooting stuff with arrows, then going to the next level once everything is dead.
No. People were really taken aback due to the art style of Wind Waker.

As they were about Twilight Princess being more realistic, and Skyward Sword being a blend of the 2.

People haven't said against Zelda U because namely it doesn't look much different than SS.
 
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All I'm going to say is know the difference between "can't" & "won't"

Ice Climbers can't be in Smash right now

Sakurai won't put Ridley in for arbitrary reasons.

However since the rest of these characters are going to be "fan-service" why not service the fans and gove them something they've been wanting for years?
Let it go.
Ridley can't be DLC because Sakurai has given his reasoning for why he wasn't in the initial roster. He also acknowledged the demand for him then.
Time to accept it and move on to Smash 5 and hope for the following:
A. Ridley gets a design Sakurai thinks will work better
B. Sakurai has a change of heart
C. Someone else is in charge that'll have Ridley playable
 

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There's a limited number of spaces and alternative characters both potentially more successful on the ballot and who Sakurai may feel can be implemented better.
Limited yes, but we don't know how many.

Let it go.
Ridley can't be DLC because Sakurai has given his reasoning for why he wasn't in the initial roster. He also acknowledged the demand for him then.
Time to accept it and move on to Smash 5 and hope for the following:
A. Ridley gets a design Sakurai thinks will work better
B. Sakurai has a change of heart
C. Someone else is in charge that'll have Ridley playable
Or "D" we can wait and see what comes out of this ballot. If he's not in, well he's not in.
The only impossible character as of now is Ice climbers.
 
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No.
He said it twice, in two separate ways.
Post-Brawl: Ridley is probably impossible. If we really worked on it, maybe we could. But he'd be pretty slow.

Post-Smash 4: Ridley works far better as a boss. As a fighter, he would lose the intimidation that makes him Ridley.

He isn't happening as DLC.
He first says he is impossible, then that he would be possible if he would be worked on. It sounds like he never thought of it before the interview and just thought of it after being asked about it.
Second one is him saying its impossible (because of bulls**t reasons and Sakurai can be wrong, as proven with lack of stage hazard switch and tripping in Brawl, among other things). Can't deny that.

I don't think he will happen as a DLC character. I lost faith in Sakurai on this and many other things a while ago. Until he is either replaced or he changes his opinion, i don't expect him to be playable.
No. People were really taken aback due to the art style of Wind Waker.

As they were about Twilight Princess being more realistic, and Skyward Sword being a blend of the 2.

People haven't said against Zelda U because namely it doesn't look much different than SS.
Thats what im talking about. It wasn't because of the gameplay being nothing like it was before.
no, what Reggie said is the truth.

people really complained mostly because it was different. I still am shocked that it happened, but it really did.

I make the parallel with spm tbh, most of the complains I got was that it wasn;t sequelising TTYD while tbh with you, it shouldn;t have sequelised it int he first place and the way spm handled the series was quite awesome. I still agree there;s flaws, but it did really good stuff.

Wind waker was kinda like that. having played that game, I no longer understands these complaints....
Even if thats true (i wasn't present at that time, so, i only know about it from what people say now), i don't think it will go just as well since WW still had OoT kind of gameplay while FF has Metroid Prime combat mechanics, Metroid designs and characters (except "super deformed") and thats it.
 
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Unrelated but why do people hate rolling? Also what's up with picking someone's else's character after you beat them?
 
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Limited yes, but we don't know how many.


Or "D" we can wait and see what comes out of this ballot.
The only impossible character as of now is Ice climbers.
And anyone that has an existing non-playable role in SSB4 that is of significant function (Background cameos and harmless stage elements aren't significant).

I sincerely doubt that Sakurai'll backpedal barely a year after SSB4U's release.

Sometimes it's best to just give up and fight another day. The next Smash game is Ridley's best shot. Not DLC for a game that doesn't acknowledge the multiple Ridleys and has him in a significant role already.
 
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And anyone that has an existing non-playable role in Smash Bros that is of significant function (Background cameos and harmless stage elements aren't significant).

I sincerely doubt that Sakurai'll backpedal barely a year after SSB4U's release.

Sometimes it's best to just give up and fight another day. The next Smash game is Ridley's best shot. Not DLC for a game that doesn't acknowledge the multiple Ridleys and has him in a significant role already.
Like I said I'll wait for the results of the ballot. If he's not, well he's not, if he is great.
 
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Unrelated but why do people hate rolling? Also what's up with picking someone's else's character after you beat them?
Because it makes the character completly invincible for a while and also moves said character, forcing you to turn around and attack again, but it can be easily spammed.
Thats probably to show off. Doesn't ends well from what i saw.
 

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Unfortunately for Ridley fans Sakurai cares more about integrity than a quick buck.
He once said animal crossing and things that were peaceful weren't "fit" for smash but over the years it made a boatload of money and he magically found a way to put villager on the roster.

Thats probably to show off. Doesn't ends well from what i saw.
Yeah because if someone who considers themselves "good" beats me they'll either pick Mewtwo (my main) or Ganon, if they go with the former, they usually play him like that would Mario, this is a mistake but they end up losing to me.
 
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I'm not sure why people still think there are pre-ballot characters left. Based off what was learned today, it looks like we are done with them. The 2-5 remaining characters are going to be from the ballot.
 

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IDC what people say. I still want Ridely and I want Metroid to have 4 reps.


I'm 99.9999999997% certain he won't happen this game.......since his reveal of being a dumb stage boss. ( I don't like stage bosses/assists/enemies/whatevs.)
 

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He once said animal crossing and things that were peaceful weren't "fit" for smash but over the years it made a boatload of money and he magically found a way to put villager on the roster.

Yeah because if someone who considers themselves "good" beats me they'll either pick Mewtwo (my main) or Ganon, if they go with the former, they usually play him like that would Mario, this is a mistake but they end up losing to me.
There's a huge difference between a few years and a few months.
And Sakurai still hasn't really changed his stance on Ridley since Brawl.
 
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