Character Discussion Thread

[A Distant Demon]

Made this.View attachment 48500
And it's sideways...(Facepalms)

we are also missing a scythe.

I wonder who could fix that

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

we are also missing a scythe.

I wonder who could fix that :rolleeyes:

The awesome power of teamwork! Cole from Ninjago! Specter Knight! Me! I dunno. Who?

 

[aldelaro5]

Just a dumb thought, but instead of having just Simon represent Castlevania (since the series has so many protagonists) what if there was a character simply named 'Belmont'? He'd use moves from all who bear that name (Richter's item crashes, Julius' Omnia Vanitas, Simon's 8 way whip etc.) and his color swaps would be different Belmonts.

it would technically be fine because you're just changing the delegate of his subset.

Though.....it will require a bit more effort because it means more abstractions.....

But it could be done and be fine....

 

[Burruni]

Made this.View attachment 48500
And it's sideways...(Facepalms)

"Staff"
"Brass Knuckles" I feel like actual boxing Metal plated gloves Or scales fit this niche.
"Power of Teamwork" , final smashes.
"Math" is an LCD Calculator given life. Super Fighting Robots?
"Arcane Power"

Edit: "Mace," isn't that basically 's B-air, F-Air, and D-Smash?

 

[A Distant Demon]

The awesome power of teamwork! Cole from Ninjago! Specter Knight! Me! I dunno. Who?

Avatar. Signature. Support thread i own. Viridi of course

Cant tell if sarcasm from being internet

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

"Staff"
"Brass Knuckles" I feel like actual boxing Metal plated gloves Or scales fit this niche.
"Power of Teamwork" , final smashes.
"Math" is an LCD Calculator given life.
"Arcane Power"

Missed Palutena. My bad.
Boxing Gloves and scales don't count. Metal Plated Gloves... ok.
The power of teamwork was a joke. But you are right.
Math was also a joke. But Mr. Game & Watch doesn't exactly use math as an attack. (I meant like Dr. Kawashima. Don't want him in smash though.)
Ness and Lucas use PSI (Aka psychic energy.) not magic. Pikachu uses Electricity, Charizard uses Fire, Greninja uses water, and Mewtwo also uses psychic energy. No Pokémon use arcane magic (Smash or otherwise). Robin uses Electric, fire, dark, and...wind? (Well I guess it's wind cause it's called Elewind but...) Zelda uses Fire, Wind, Darkness, and general magic. Arcane is a type of magic used to burn things, create weapons, and armor.

Avatar. Signature. Support thread i own. Viridi of course

Cant tell if sarcasm from being internet

Nope no sarcasm. Just me being silly. (I thought Viridi was holding a staff.)

 

[Burruni]

we are also missing a scythe.

I wonder who could fix that

Simon Belmont!

Missed Palutena. My bad.
Math was also a joke. But Mr. Game & Watch doesn't exactly use math as an attack. (I meant like Dr. Kawashima. Don't want him in smash though.)
(I thought Viridi was holding a staff.)

Is this close enough?

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Simon Belmont!

I thought he only used a Whip. (Imma noob)

 

[Xzsmmc]

Simon Belmont!

Or how about the second most recurring Castlevania character?

 

[Burruni]

I thought he only used a Whip. (Imma noob)

The whip is the standard Belmont weapon, but has a MULTITUDE of sub-weapons. Holy Water, Torches, Throwing Axes, Scythes, and Crosses being, I believe the full rotation. Sir Arthur from Ghost & Goblins probably being a better choice.

 

[aldelaro5]

Actually, because I never cared about castlevania.....

I heard it was quite a well praised series from its first games....

because i thought that maybe he fit the standard to be in ssb4, but I never inspected much his case.

Does he has enough as third party?

 

[Burruni]

Actually, because I never cared about castlevania.....

I heard it was quite a well praised series from its first games....

because i thought that maybe he fit the standard to be in ssb4, but I never inspected much his case.

Does he has enough as third party?

Castlevania is one of the most iconic "Nintendo Hard" series, it evolved into helping craft up the genre we call MetroidVANIA for a reason, and has some of the HAMMIEST line delivery in history. Certainly one of Nintendo's icons of 8-bit that evolved into popularity of SNES, and while struggling some on 3D remained very popular throughout most handhelds (last was late DS early 3DS IIRC) and would be a better Konami representative than Snake off the grounds of Nintendo-isms. Simon Belmont was the first and most re-visited protagonists within this series and basically set the series in motion within its own story. Other than the magic of some of the female cast or vampiric transformations, there's nothing of the other characters that could really be excluded from him in usage.

Edit: The best dialogue in gaming history

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Simon Belmont!


Is this close enough?

SMAASH! Puppy's review
"The number looks just like a calculator!"
But still just...OK

 

[aldelaro5]

Castlevania is one of the most iconic "Nintendo Hard" series, it evolved into helping craft up the genre we call MetroidVANIA for a reason, and has some of the HAMMIEST line delivery in history. Certainly one of Nintendo's icons of 8-bit that evolved into popularity of SNES, and while struggling some on 3D remained very popular throughout most handhelds (last was late DS early 3DS IIRC) and would be a better Konami representative than Snake off the grounds of Nintendo-isms.

ok....that does sounds like fitting....

it;s because most third party out there doesn't seem to fit much

*cough*indiestuff*cough*

 

[Burruni]

SMAASH! Puppy's review
"The number looks just like a calculator!"
But still just...OK

SCREW IT. THAT'S ENOUGH TO GET ME THROUGH THE REMIX! (Rhythm Heaven in-joke for those who don't know)

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Well, that's proof how much of an idiot I am. Thought Saki had a Brawl trophy. But saying "Why wasn't it localized in the first place?" isn't a good argument as again, Fire Emblem

If it was "very popular" in Japan when it first came out then why didn't they decide to release the game outside of Japan? I mean the game was already fully spoken in English, they didn't have to put much work into localizing it. You do realize that the game was released outside of Japan on the virtual console before it was even revealed that Saki was making an appearance in Brawl, right

 

[Twin Shot]

I voted for Ditto as my ballot choice.

Make a character out of random select. Simply give him his own intro and outro - done.

Also stated on select screen it would be nifty if you could toggle on the ability to switch characters after a stock instead of a round.

..Then I also voted for Snake.

 

[Bebe Mignon]

I'm curious about something.

What do y'all think of Elma from Xenoblade Chronicles X?

Also, check out the latest story trailer. It's all sorts of awesomeness!

 

[Graizen]

 

[Deleted member]

Well, that's proof how much of an idiot I am. Thought Saki had a Brawl trophy. But saying "Why wasn't it localized in the first place?" isn't a good argument as again, Fire Emblem

Except Fire Emblem was purposely held back (as was the Wars games) because it was believed the Western market would be uninterested in turn-based strategy gameplay.

Sin & Punishment just....died because of how late in the Nintendo 64's lifespan it was released.

 

[aldelaro5]

You know, one reason I would love to see Paper Mario is how silly he would be, but in a cheerful way which is just contradicting with some other characters that has a rather serious personalities.

I mean, I just imagine Paper Mario and ganondorf and I can`t stop smilling.

Ryu however.....oh geez, I almost laugh

It`s like so not matching and I love this

 

[FalKoopa]

I'm curious about something.

What do y'all think of Elma from Xenoblade Chronicles X?

Also, check out the latest story trailer. It's all sorts of awesomeness!

I think Xenoblade X should be released before we add a character from there.. And I think the protagonist of Xenoblade X (I think Elma isn't) will have a higher chance when the next game rolls around.

 

[Bebe Mignon]

I think Xenoblade X should be released before we add a character from there.. And I think the protagonist of Xenoblade X (I think Elma isn't) will have a higher chance when the next game rolls around.

Well, it's a good thing the game is being released next week in Japan.

Anyway, I agree. She doesn't have much of a chance for this game, but definitely has a better chance for the next Smash game(s).

 

[JaidynReiman]

I think Xenoblade X should be released before we add a character from there.. And I think the protagonist of Xenoblade X (I think Elma isn't) will have a higher chance when the next game rolls around.

It all depends, really. Does Cross really have that unique of a gameplay mechanic that he'd be considered? Maybe one of the "main" party members would get picked over the Avatar in this case.

 

[N3ON]

Well, it's a good thing the game is being released next week in Japan.

Anyway, I agree. She doesn't have much of a chance for this game, but definitely has a better chance for the next Smash game(s).

By the time of Smash 5 XCX is gonna be old news~

 

[Deleted member]

I think that 10+ characters after the initial roster is more likely than we think.

The Super Smash Bros. speculation community is notorious for doing two things; believing everything they want to hear but also being way too pessimistic at the same time. Before the game released, many thought that there would be no DLC characters whatsoever, that we would be lucky to get ten additions overall, and that reaching fifty characters was unlikely. Then we got eighteen additions, fifty-one characters, and announcement that Mewtwo was DLC. Then, many thought Mewtwo would be the only DLC character. Now that Lucas has been confirmed, the Smash Ballot is a thing, and that Roy and Ryu are probably going to be DLC characters, people are split on how many DLC characters will get in. Some say that we're only getting six characters as DLC while others say that there will be more; about two or three more in fact. But I am going to be the optimists and say that we could very well see ten or more characters in addition to the initial roster when all is said and done.

One common argument used against us getting a high amount of characters as DLC is that DLC characters on fighting games tends to be limited; usually around four characters. But it's not impossible for us to get more DLC characters. In fact, one Namco Bandai developed game, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, had forty-nine characters on the initial roster. But when factoring in DLC characters, that bumps it up to fifty-nine characters which is ten DLC characters. Keep in mind, this is a game where the characters are much more complex which makes the fact that fifty-nine characters exist a huge accomplishment. And guess who developed Super Smash Bros. 3DS & Wii U? Namco Bandai. I think there's a very real chance we may hit sixty or more characters once everything is set and done. But that's not all.

There is also this interesting piece of information leaked by shinyquagsire21 (who was also responsible for the Roy and Ryu leak). I am sure many people here have seen this leak but for those who haven't, look at the five "Mario" behind Mewtwo. While we don't know what exactly this is supposed to mean, there has been speculation that these are five more DLC characters after Mewtwo. And this makes sense, Lucas isn't mentioned anywhere yet he's going to be DLC character so logically he would fit under one of the "Mario" slot. So would Ryu and Roy should they actually be DLC characters as well as two others unconfirmed/not leaked. There are three possible scenarios assuming Roy and Ryu are DLC characters:

- Mewtwo, Lucas, Ryu, and Roy were planned and the other two are ballot characters.
- Mewtwo, Lucas, Ryu, Roy, and Wolf were planned and there is only one ballot character.
- Mewtwo and the five "Mario" are all pre-planned DLC characters and the ballot characters have not been added yet.

The first two scenarios could certainly happen, but I am of the opinion that we're looking at the third scenario here. First, I am almost certain Wolf is a pre-planned character for this game; Lucas himself has already been announced as DLC and you would think that Lucas would have come after Wolf. Not to mention the game has already leaked Roy from Fire Emblem, who I felt 99.99% sure that would come after Wolf. I find it hard to believe that Wolf isn't pre-planned, let alone would not become DLC. If the first scenario doesn't happen, that means that we would be left with only one ballot character. But I find just one ballot character to be unlikely. The ballot is going to last a total of six months, which is a really long time. Why would they have a ballot held for so long only for one newcomer to get developed? It's likely that with such a long time frame that multiple characters will be developed as a result. I personally believe that we are going to see two or three ballot characters from the poll which would result in eight or nine DLC characters. Yet, that's still less than ten characters.

But I believe we are getting more after the ballot characters. Now how I feel this will happen is by Super Smash Bros. 3DS & Wii U+ on next gen console (SSB NX will be used for simplicity). Back in April, 2014, there was a reporting on a "Smash 6" which actually has merit to it. It seems weird that they would be doing hiring on "Smash 6" before the initial game even came out. But, what if "Smash 6" was actually an update of Super Smash Bros. 3DS & Wii U as a launch title on the next generation of consoles? All of a sudden this makes sense. Release an update with all DLC present on it plus contents from both 3DS & the Wii U version then add more content on top of it and wallah, you get Smash 6. And I believe that one of the extra contents will be Ice Climbers and Chorus Men. Sakurai himself stated that Ice Climbers were cut because of the 3DS not being able to handle them. The second Gematsu leak also leaked Chorus Men but ended up not making it. Later on, a Rhythm Heaven character was discovered to be planned but ultimately didn't make the cut. This makes me think that Chorus Men, like Ice Climbers, were scrapped because of technical problems of the 3DS. But what about the NX? Nintendo wouldn't need the 3DS version and as such, Ice Climbers and Chorus Men wouldn't be held back by that problem. Sakurai himself said that there were a lot more characters planned for SSB 3DS & Wii U and as DLC indicates, he is bringing back cut content from the game. This makes Ice Climbers and Chorus Men great candidates as NX exclusive additions given that both were planned to be in the game and that many would love to see Ice Climbers return. Assuming that eight to nine characters are standard DLC, this would bring us up to ten or eleven added character from the base game and that's not including if they choose to do more on either side (if not both). Thinking that ten or more characters after the initial roster could be likely sounds ridiculous but I honestly think it may not been that out of reach.

 

[AEMehr]

but splatoon will live on forever

the pointless pre-release hype proves it, yes yes

well, that and the fact that nintendo wants to treat it to shooters as mario kart is to racing games​

 

[Deleted member]

I really dont care for the likely dlc choices, they're too obvious and none really interest me

There's not any "likely" DLC choices unless you're referring to Wolf, Ryu, or Roy. Some are certainly more plausible than others, but even the likes of King K. Rool, Snake, Inklings, and Isaac could very well get passed on for one reason or another.

 

[N3ON]

Why would the dev team add as many extra stages to All-Star as they did, even as an absolute maximum cap if they didn't think there was at least a chance they'd use em all?

One common argument used against us getting a high amount of characters as DLC is that DLC characters on fighting games tends to be limited; usually around four characters. But it's not impossible for us to get more DLC characters. In fact, one Namco Bandai developed game, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, had forty-nine characters on the initial roster. But when factoring in DLC characters, that bumps it up to fifty-nine characters which is ten DLC characters. Keep in mind, this is a game where the characters are much more complex which makes the fact that fifty-nine characters exist a huge accomplishment. And guess who developed Super Smash Bros. 3DS & Wii U? Namco Bandai. I think there's a very real chance we may hit sixty or more characters once everything is set and done. But that's not all.

Capcom adds at least a dozen additional characters to its rosters all the time, it just glorifies it by making it a new version of the same game.

But I believe we are getting more after the ballot characters. Now how I feel this will happen is by Super Smash Bros. 3DS & Wii U+ on next gen console (SSB NX will be used for simplicity). Back in April, 2014, there was a reporting on a "Smash 6" which actually has merit to it. It seems weird that they would be doing hiring on "Smash 6" before the initial game even came out. But, what if "Smash 6" was actually an update of Super Smash Bros. 3DS & Wii U as a launch title on the next generation of consoles? All of a sudden this makes sense. Release an update with all DLC present on it plus contents from both 3DS & the Wii U version then add more content on top of it and wallah, you get Smash 6. And I believe that one of the extra contents will be Ice Climbers and Chorus Men. Sakurai himself stated that Ice Climbers were cut because of the 3DS not being able to handle them. The second Gematsu leak also leaked Chorus Men but ended up not making it. Later on, a Rhythm Heaven character was discovered to be planned but ultimately didn't make the cut. This makes me think that Chorus Men, like Ice Climbers, were scrapped because of technical problems of the 3DS. But what about the NX? Nintendo wouldn't need the 3DS version and as such, Ice Climbers and Chorus Men wouldn't be held back by that problem. Sakurai himself said that there were a lot more characters planned for SSB 3DS & Wii U and as DLC indicates, he is bringing back cut content from the game. This makes Ice Climbers and Chorus Men great candidates as NX exclusive additions given that both were planned to be in the game and that many would love to see Ice Climbers return. Assuming that eight to nine characters are standard DLC, this would bring us up to ten or eleven added character from the base game and that's not including if they choose to do more on either side (if not both). Thinking that ten or more characters after the initial roster could be likely sounds ridiculous but I honestly think it may not been that out of reach.

I don't think this is going to happen though.

That's also a very Capcom-y move.

but splatoon will live on forever

the pointless pre-release hype proves it, yes yes

well, that and the fact that nintendo wants to treat it to shooters as mario kart is to racing games​

Plus Inklings are presumably going to stay as the protagonists in future titles while Xenoblade will probably continue to have its cast cycled out, assuming they even get another game before then.

 

[DJ3DS]

I voted for Ditto as my ballot choice.

Make a character out of random select. Simply give him his own intro and outro - done.

Also stated on select screen it would be nifty if you could toggle on the ability to switch characters after a stock instead of a round.

..Then I also voted for Snake.

That's... A pretty awesome idea actually.

 

[Kenith]

I voted for Ditto as my ballot choice.
Make a character out of random select. Simply give him his own intro and outro - done.
Also stated on select screen it would be nifty if you could toggle on the ability to switch characters after a stock instead of a round.
..Then I also voted for Snake.

I think it should always switch characters for each stock.
But that's a great idea, probably pathetically easy to make too.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Except Fire Emblem was purposely held back (as was the Wars games) because it was believed the Western market would be uninterested in turn-based strategy gameplay.

Sin & Punishment just....died because of how late in the Nintendo 64's lifespan it was released.

Then I bring Starfy to the table. Europe likes cutesy unlike NA. Starfy was released in NA but not Europe

 

[Sabrewulf238]

we are also missing a scythe.

I wonder who could fix that

They can add Menardi after they make Isaac a playable character.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Ok theres some news

Shovel knight is going to become a japanese game as well now

That might get sovel knight an atvantage in the ballot.

 

[Burruni]

Then I bring Starfy to the table. Europe likes cutesy unlike NA. Starfy was released in NA but not Europe

Yep, the US hates Cutesy stuff.

That's why we have in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade.

You.... kinda need to get some data if you're gonna make that claim. Because I could make the counter argument of Tingle's Rosy Ruppeeland which was never released in the US but came out in Europe which is far from cutesy.

 

[Wolfie557]

....who's the 3rd clone?

In Smash 4, Roy.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

I think Xenoblade X should be released before we add a character from there.. And I think the protagonist of Xenoblade X (I think Elma isn't) will have a higher chance when the next game rolls around.

Elma's pretty much the main character, that story trailer focuses on her quite a lot, kind of like Fire Emblem: Awakening where "Cross", your self made character is important and has major story involvement but the main character and "Face" of the game is Elma.

Elma also has gorgeous eyes

 

[A Distant Demon]

In Smash 4, Roy.

clone 1 =
clone 2 =

he asked who is clone 3.

 

[Graizen]

http://smashboards.com/threads/yoshi-will-be-ryus-rival.400136/

 

[A Distant Demon]

http://smashboards.com/threads/yoshi-will-be-ryus-rival.400136/

ill admit I chuckled