Character Discussion Thread

[True Blue Warrior]

Chibi-Robo should've been an AT.

He's certainly big enough to be one. I don't know why there were any AT removals outside of Gray Fox.

 

[N3ON]

Well Isaac's is because he's obv DLC. ;D

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Well Isaac's is because he's obv DLC. ;D

Let's hope so. I'm planning on getting GoldenSun for Christmas this year.

 

[Chandeelure]

He's certainly big enough.

He he he.

 

[Arcadenik]

Meh, I think that if eShop is to get a character, it would be Mallo.

 

[Curious Villager]

Meh, I think that if eShop is to get a character, it would be Mallo.

I'm still quite bummed his series didn't at least get a stage. It was practically begging for one.....

He did get a trophy at least on the 3DS version though, guess that counts for something....

 

[N3ON]

Meh, I think that if eShop is to get a character, it would be Mallo.

I think if an eShop IP is to get a stage, it would be from Pushmo.

But if it were to get a character, it would be Dillon.

However, I think the stage is much more likely.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Pushmo Park should've been in over many other returning stages, notably the Super Mario Bros. Mushroom Kingdom stage.

 

[N3ON]

Notably Smashville.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Notably Smashville.

Yes, please! Why the hell do we need 2 of, pretty much, the same stage?

 

[N3ON]

Yes, please! Why the hell do we need 2 of, pretty much, the same stage?

Because this time we only have a single Pokemon Stadium.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Yes, please! Why the hell do we need 2 of, pretty much, the same stage?

Personally, I think it was for competitive reasons.
I see the stage pretty commonly in many Brawl tournaments.

 

[Deleted member]

Smashville is a stationary stage with a single layout.
Town and City is a stage that shifts between two layouts.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I would've welcomed another AC stage if you could actually play on the actual town's ground, like Tortimer Island for example instead of a floating platform above the town.

 

[N3ON]

Smashville is a stationary stage with a single layout.
Town and City is a stage that shifts between two layouts.

Still pretty redundant when you think of some of the other Brawl stages they could've brought back instead.

 

[Substitution]

Then again, there are worse stages to pick, like Hannenbow.

 

[N3ON]

Oh I'm not saying it's a bad stage... but it's not one I would miss if it wasn't there. Because Town and City.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Hanenbow wasn't that bad, it was a really cool choice for a stage in Brawl.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Then again, there are worse stages to pick, like Hannenbow.

I'm starting to think I am the only one who actually thought Hannenbow was OK. It was an interesting concept for a stage. There has been worse stages than Hannenbow, New Pork City comes to mind

 

[PSIBoy]

I'm starting to think I am the only one who actually thought Hannenbow was OK. It was an interesting concept for a stage. There has been worse stages than Hannenbow, New Pork City comes to mind

I would've said Mario Bros. (Brawl) or 75 m (oh wait, that's in Smash Wii U...).

 

[Substitution]

I'm starting to think I am the only one who actually thought Hannenbow was OK. It was an interesting concept for a stage. There has been worse stages than Hannenbow, New Pork City comes to mind

Well what I'm getting at is as redundant as Smashville can feel it's not awful all things considered.

 

[Deleted member]

Still pretty redundant when you think of some of the other Brawl stages they could've brought back instead.

Of the list of stages not brought back in either game, only Pirate Ship comes to mind as the better choice.
And Shadow Moses Island, but yeah......

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Well what I'm getting at is as redundant as Smashville can feel it's not awful all things considered.

I catch your cold. Still I think they could've handled it a little bit better.

 

[PSIBoy]

Of the list of stages not brought back in either game, only Pirate Ship comes to mind as the better choice.

I can't remember, did they bring back Bridge of Eldin? I think it's about as good as Pirate Ship since there aren't game-breaking hazards (unless you're careless enough to get caught by the bomb) and it's long.

 

[N3ON]

There are only a small handful of Brawl stages so truly awful (imo) that I'd take Smashville over them. Though considering there's now Omega Mode... idek.

If anything Smashville should've been on the 3DS instead.

Of the list of stages not brought back in either game, only Pirate Ship comes to mind as the better choice.

Well it's subjective any way you want to look at it. I'd take Frigate Orpheon, Spear Pillar, Pictochat, and Summit along with Pirate Ship over Smashville. Actually I'd probably take almost any other stage considering you can just put em on Omega Mode.

I can't remember, did they bring back Bridge of Eldin? I think it's about as good as Pirate Ship since there aren't game-breaking hazards (unless you're careless enough to get caught by the bomb) and it's long.

Yeah it's in the Wii U one.

 

[Deleted member]

I can't remember, did they bring back Bridge of Eldin? I think it's about as good as Pirate Ship since there aren't game-breaking hazards (unless you're careless enough to get caught by the bomb) and it's long.

They did.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I'm pretty shocked we didn't get a stage based on WWHD, Pirate Ship should've at least returned.

 

[PSIBoy]

Well it's subjective any way you want to look at it. I'd take Frigate Orpheon, Spear Pillar, Pictochat, and Summit along with Pirate Ship over Smashville. Actually I'd probably take almost any other stage considering you can just put em on Omega Mode.


Yeah it's in the Wii U one.

They didn't bring back Frigate Orpheon?! What?! Hey, at least they brought back Norfair with soccer balls . But that doesn't change the fact they didn't bring back Pirate Ship and Frigate Orpheon...

And thank you for confirming. Don't have Smash U myself yet. Bridge of Eldin is such a good stage...

 

[Deleted member]

Well it's subjective any way you want to look at it. I'd take Frigate Orpheon, Spear Pillar, Pictochat, and Summit along with Pirate Ship over Smashville. Actually I'd probably take almost any other stage considering you can just put em on Omega Mode.


Yeah it's in the Wii U one.

Spear Pillar's a little redundant in itself with one of its featured guests serving as a summon doing one of its stage features, don't you think?
As for Pictochat, there's already Pictochat 2 on the 3DS....(and considering stages cater more towards handheld games on the 3DS anyway...)
And I'm going to be a little biased here, but Summit just sucked and I am glad Smashville got in over that. Especially since it lost any worth when the Ice Climbers flew the coop.

But I forgot Frigate Orpheon. Yeah, I'd take that over Smashville.

 

[Arcadenik]

New Pork City would work great with 8 player Smash... surprised it isn't in the game... but then again, Lucas got cut.

 

[N3ON]

Spear Pillar's a little redundant in itself with one of its featured guests serving as a summon doing one of its stage features, don't you think?

Not really. It'd only be redundant if Palkia's little gimmick was the crux of the stage or something instead of some annoyance that lasts a few second. Plus I'd assume if the stage was going to return Palkia would still be present there instead of as a Pokeball.

As for Pictochat, there's already Pictochat 2 on the 3DS....(and considering stages cater more towards handheld games on the 3DS anyway...)

I know. That's also redundant. But considering Pictochat 2 is on the 3DS the original Pictochat being on the Wii U would be less redundant than Smashville and Town and City being on the same system.

And I'm going to be a little biased here, but Summit just sucked and I am glad Smashville got in over that. Especially since it lost any worth when the Ice Climbers flew the coop.

I liked Summit. I know a lot of people didn't... but it's all subjective anyway. And if we can get a Balloon Fight stage without Balloon Fighter I don't see why we can't get Summit (or any IC stage) without the ICs.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

New Pork City would work great with 8 player Smash... surprised it isn't in the game... but then again, Lucas got cut.

It's weird that Brawl had so much Mother 3 stuff, but in this game it's all cut.

I liked Summit. I know a lot of people didn't... but it's all subjective anyway. And if we can get a Balloon Fight stage without Balloon Fighter I don't see why we can't get Summit (or any IC stage) without the ICs.

I love Summit, Melee's Icicle Mountain stage, not so much...

 

[N3ON]

Icicle Mountain was the beginning of a bad stage gimmick Sakurai still doesn't realize is a bad stage gimmick.

At least it never returned.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Icicle Mountain was the beginning of a bad stage gimmick Sakurai still doesn't realize is a bad stage gimmick.

At least it never returned.

Thank God Sakurai came to his senses after the atrocity that was Rumble Falls.

 

[Aenglaan]

Smashville is a stationary stage with a single layout.
Town and City is a stage that shifts between two layouts.

Also, just like with Skyworld, the whole point of the stage returning is so that its first actual representative can play on the stage.

 

[PSIBoy]

Thank God Sakurai came to his senses after the atrocity that was Rumble Falls.

I completely forgot about that. At least Mushroomy Kingdom didn't have speed ups, deadly poisonous spikes, and the camera moves horizontally instead of vertically.

 

[Deleted member]

@ N3ON Sorry for the late reply, had dinner and worked on some classwork I procrastinated on.

Not really. It'd only be redundant if Palkia's little gimmick was the crux of the stage or something instead of some annoyance that lasts a few second. Plus I'd assume if the stage was going to return Palkia would still be present there instead of as a Pokeball.

In the hypothetical that the stage was going to return with no Poké Ball Palkia, we wouldn't exactly be having this conversation, now would we? This is why we can't really use what-if's.
All we can go by is what is there, which is Palkia the summonable Pokémon. Having Spear Pillar on top of that would be rather redundant.

I know. That's also redundant. But considering Pictochat 2 is on the 3DS the original Pictochat being on the Wii U would be less redundant than Smashville and Town and City being on the same system.

Possibly. However, bear in mind that Smashville and Town and City are not the same as the likes of the two Pictochats or the two Pokémon Stadiums (which did appear in the same game in the past) where the stage gimmick and overall layout is the same; as I mentioned in an earlier post, Smashville is a stationary stage with a single layout, while Town and City is a stage that shifts between two separate layouts (neither of which are Smashville's layout). There's also the Food-carrying balloons on Smashville, which I don't think T&C has (I don't have the game to verify).

I liked Summit. I know a lot of people didn't... but it's all subjective anyway. And if we can get a Balloon Fight stage without Balloon Fighter I don't see why we can't get Summit (or any IC stage) without the ICs.

The Balloon Fight stage was never tied to a character to begin with unlike Summit (and by association, Icicle Mountain). The only reason those stages existed were due to the Ice Climbers being characters. Without the Climbers, those stages serve no purpose. Whereas Balloon Fight serves its specific purpose as a non-character related stage from the onset.

 

[Curious Villager]

I'm pretty shocked we didn't get a stage based on WWHD, Pirate Ship should've at least returned.

I think that's probably because the Zelda team didn't really think about remaking Wind Waker until around early 2013 if I recall correctly, so it was probably too late to include a new Wind Waker stage and they probably already decided to bring back Bridge of Elding and Temple by then so bringing back Pirate Ship alongside it may have been seen as a bit overkill to them or something..... Then again, we have like four returning stages from the Mario series but then again, it's the Mario series.....

Of course that's just speculation on my part.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I think that's probably because the Zelda team didn't really think about remaking Wind Waker until around early 2013 if I recall correctly, so it was probably too late to include a new Wind Waker stage and they probably already decided to bring back Bridge of Elding and Temple by then so bringing back Pirate Ship alongside it may have been seen as a bit overkill to them or something..... Then again, we have like four returning stages from the Mario series but then again, it's the Mario series.....

Of course that's just speculation on my part.

Still, the dev team had time to add a stage from WWHD considering we have Woolly World, but they didn't.

 

[egaddmario]

Still, the dev team had time to add a stage from WWHD considering we have Woolly World, but they didn't.

But Woolly World was in development for a number of years. That one i can see. I'm baffled we didn't get a WWHD stage, not because it was released, but more so because of Toon Link. I guess one could argue his stage is the Spirit Train on 3DS, but i wish he had a home stage on the Wii U version. Temple, Bridge of Eldin, and Skyloft just don't suit him.