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Agreed, except for Dark Pit. We already have two versions of Zelda, Tetra's chances are dead at this point.
Only ones I'd disagree with are Paper Mario and Tetra. Maybe replace them with Jr and Vaati then it would be perfect. Solid 9.5/10 from that alone
I like clones and Dark Pit's character. That's pretty much the only reason I like him.
Dark Pit is the better half of Pit and as an advocate of clone characters, he is one I am interested in. I was always decent with Pit; however, he is my sister's main and we have this arbitrary rule that we cannot play each other's character. So the interest is certainly there. His theme is what truly captivated me though. Honestly, I just love his character more than I love most Nintendo characters.
They want to stay in Sakurai's good graces.
Seems like people now have hope on him appearing in the same vein as Lucina. Either as she was intended, as a character who's actually an alt; or as how she ended up being, a clone with subtle differences.
I still think Tetra has a pretty good shot. I find her to be more likely than most Zelda candidates. She can easily out represent most of the Zelda characters that people are thinking have better chances. She has been in three different Zelda games, plus a remake that makes her way more relevant now than other Zelda characters. I'm not here to discuss relevancy though, as I don't truly believe that a character's relevancy is what merits them to take a slot on the roster. An argument that most people go to when discussing Ghirahim's chances. I believe that a character has to be able to represent their franchise well enough to even be considered. Tetra can do that as she is a child version of Zelda. Most of Zelda's incarnations have been a child after all. On top of that, she can bring in a unique move set just like Sheik did, but still be completely different than her counterparts. The only other character that you mentioned that I think would be a better choice to represent the Zelda franchise is Ganon. I don't see him happening at this point though because I think they would have already revealed Ganondorf by now if Ganon was on the roster, and Ganondorf already has Ganon as his Final Smash; something that I don't think is going to change.
People do not expect a third Zelda for the same reason they do not expect a second version of Pit: they do not want one. It is so easy to blatantly disregard their chances when you ignore precedence or Sakurai's statements.
I've come to a similar conclusion. Hey, I have a quick question that I've been meaning to ask. Why are you rooting for Dark Pit so much? Is it because you think the character would make a good addition to the roster? Do you just really like the character from the game, and want to play as him in Smash? I'm just curious. It's nice to see people sticking their neck out there for characters that most people don't think have a good chance.
Oh i'll be pretty ok with Tetra, but i think the most likely Zelda newcomer is Ghirahim
I would actually be completely fine with that.The Legend of Zelda is an odd series when it comes to character inclusion.
When you bring up Tetra, you get the complaints of another Zelda. When you bring up Ghirahim, you receive the lecture of how he's a one time deal and oddly flamboyant, (Yes, I've actually been backlashed in that way.) If you say that Zelda shouldn't even get a newcomer, you get criticized for believing a popular franchise shouldn't have another character.
The point I'm making? Groose for Sm4sh.
I've noticed the same. The Zelda franchise seems like the most touchy when regarding Smash speculation. Everyone has a different opinion on which character deserves to be in the most. The best thing to do is to pick the one you either like best, or think is the most likely to get a slot, and just stomach the opposing arguments and give your reasons as to why your Zelda character has the best shot.The Legend of Zelda is an odd series when it comes to character inusion.
When you bring up Tetra, you get the complaints of another Zelda. When you bring up Ghirahim, you receive the lecture of how he's a one time deal and oddly flamboyant, (Yes, I've actually been backlashed in that way.) If you say that Zelda shouldn't even get a newcomer, you get criticized for believing a popular franchise shouldn't have another character.
The point I'm making? Groose for Sm4sh.
I advocate for characters that I find to be likely based on a preponderance of the evidence; therefore, once more evidence was conceived in his favor, it would have been reminiscent of negligence to blatantly disregard it based on my inherent biases. Dark Pit was already "on my radar" at first because of all of the subtle allusions. But I needed something more to work with as I do not blindly support any character, I have to delude myself with my demented logic in order to become adamant about their arrival. In anticipation for the character, I usually become of fan of them so that once they are revealed, I am more excited.
In the case of Mario, I would not be surprised to see the good doctor return.
Ghirahim USED to have people lecture you about how he was a one-time deal and therefore arbitrarily unlikely despite overt evidence that contradicts such a fallacious assertion; however, that is no longer the case. So let us support him!The Legend of Zelda is an odd series when it comes to character inclusion.
When you bring up Tetra, you get the complaints of another Zelda. When you bring up Ghirahim, you receive the lecture of how he's a one time deal and oddly flamboyant, (Yes, I've actually been backlashed in that way.) If you say that Zelda shouldn't even get a newcomer, you get criticized for believing a popular franchise shouldn't have another character.
The point I'm making? Groose for Sm4sh.
This by infinity.In the case of Mario, I would not be surprised to see the good doctor return.
Ghirahim USED to have people lecture you about how he was a one-time deal and therefore arbitrarily unlikely despite overt evidence that contradicts such a fallacious assertion; however, that is no longer the case. So let us support him!
I could write you a paragraph about it if you wish. I actually find Ghirahim the least likely Zelda newcomer.
...Even less likely than Vaati or Groose? well i would love to read that.
Well don't get me wrong, I know he isn't all the likely, but I am curious to see your opinion on the matter.
Or you can be like me and have everyone know that it's futile to try to change my outlook on the certain Zelda character that they don't even try anymore.
I am going to make a tier list too! Tier lists are so much fun!
Realize your half joking, but execution matters more than concept. IMO Dark Pit is executed pretty good compared to others in his archetype.They harbor a deep, enduring love for this classic character who is in no way whatsoever a ubiquitous hackneyed trope?
....Really?
Yup, There's just no reason for me to believe that Ghirahim will be playable. He'd work better as an assist trophy.
Sorry, I don't see that happening at all. Sakurai HATES removing characters, he clearly stated this. That's exactly why I DON'T think Ghirahim will make it in. He has nothing going for him in the series as a whole, he's not likely to ever appear again, and if Sakurai adds any character, it'd be one that would represent the Zelda series very well so he doesn't need to remove anyone in a future game.
No reason? Or no reason that you are willing to listen to?
Then why do Toon Zelda, Zant, and GROOSE of all people have a better shot? Enlighten me.
Toon Zelda was planned for Brawl, and she's more iconic than Ghirahim. As for Groose, I'm just playing along with the charade.
Gotta get villains in sometime though.
I agree. I just don't really think one should completely discard Ghirahim YET, even though there are better choices. We've seen characters get in due to popularity and have stayed throughout the game. While there are better choices in primarily Impa as a Zelda candidate, I think Ghirahim still has a shot.
