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We already have the core characters of the franchise. There are so many other IPs Nintendo could choose from.
But as far as merits for Smash bros., Ghirahim has much more potential for a fresh moveset, while he is a one off villain, he was way more prominent in his game than Zant or every other villain barring Ganon or Skull Kid, also Sakurai seems to be going for more recent characters in newcomers this time around, so Ghirahim isn't that much of a stretch. I agree Epona is more iconic or recognizable, but there's a reason no one even considers her an option, she's just a horse, i don't think they'll opt for that before any other actual character.
I certainly agree with this sentiment; however, I would also assert that Mario is one of the IPs that Nintendo could choose from.
Did you not hear? Ghirahim is in Hyrule Warriors! He is no longer a "one-off villain," gods be praised.But as far as merits for Smash bros., Ghirahim has much more potential for a fresh moveset, while he is a one off villain, he was way more prominent in his game than Zant or every other villain barring Ganon or Skull Kid, also Sakurai seems to be going for more recent characters in newcomers this time around, so Ghirahim isn't that much of a stretch. I agree Epona is more iconic or recognizable, but there's a reason no one even considers her an option, she's just a horse, i don't think they'll opt for that before any other actual character.
Also PETA wouldn't ever let go if that happened
The real question: would Impa be more of a Sheik clone? Or a Greninja clone?
I certainly hope that Gunahndarf does not make it into Smash. Dankey Kang has more merit.
He's in hyrule warriors so not a one shot villian TECHNICALLY. You could argue its a spinoff but its still a zelda game.
Does that mean we have to make a case for no two-off villains now?
Yeah it would technically wouldn't count since content decisions will probably be finalized in post-Tropical Freeze.
I would agree with Dark Pit, if he wasn't just a Pit clone
Forget an outfit, they could make a straight up Demise alt costume that literally makes Ganondorf Demise.
I don't think any of the toon characters will be in HW as the wind waker is regular zeldas weapon and that seems like it would be toon links weapon or toon zeldas weapon
Honestly, Vaati was only prominent in one of those three games, in Four Sword Adventures he was more of a background element than a villain, i mean he does nothing, then you defeat him so you can go to the real final boss wich is Ganon. Minish cap is the game where he got all his backstory and abilities exposed.
Again, I'm not too keen on Ghirahim, but being a one-shot isn't really a good argument against a character.
It is not too late to be considered as Sakurai was more likely than not, aware of the existence of the project before it even started. Regardless, Ghirahim was in high demand around when the roster was finalized, and the notion that he has only ever appeared in one title was NEVER relevant. If one could objectively establish why that negates his chance, they would certainly be the first. The sentiment is utterly arbitrary and I highly doubt Sakurai was like, "ROFL, Debbie was only EVA in uno game, I WAZ gonna includes her... but... never mind! Lol."
The only in one game is really just a fan theory like the name fan theory.
Honestly I am expecting to see a HW version of some of the Toon characters, seems like a waste to not include half the franchise when they're redesigning certain individuals like Impa anyway.
This is how I felt about Toad over Rosalina. Didn't end well for me. I'm going to be cynical and predict latest characters of a series > older classic characters of a series.
Out of curiosity, are you assuming there's going to be Tropical Freeze content?, or has Sakurai shown or stated something about it? Becuase of what we've seen so far it seems to be more like post Pokémon X & Y content.
Well, you have to remember that not only is Shiek Zelda in disguise, but she came from the revolutionary game Ocarina of Time AND has a highly praised moveset that kept her in and kept Mewtwo out.
Girahim is a very important peice of the timeline basically bringing demise who brought the curse which brought the zelda series.girahim could have a great moveset too and why does melee roster suckingg matter.
You forgot to mention that Sheik has appeared in another title, Ocarina of Time 3DS; which, for all intents and purposes, is a separate game. However, if you wanted to get creative, you could even assert that she was present during Smash Brothers (it is an obscure fighting game series that you would not have heard of).
Without those clones it would have sucked even more, since they were added to beef up the roster when the game was in late development, without those we wouldn't have had anyone else on their spot.
I just think that means that we aren't getting two versions of the same character, which I highly prefer.
In 4 Swords, he was also the main villain, and in Adventures he was the secondary villain, so he was pretty important in all 3.
I'd agree with this, if only Sheik was her own character in the beginning. I bet Sakurai just didn't want to cut her because
I think he's a bit more cautious with new characters than that. He probably doesn't know whether he'll return or not, which could make him forgetful and unimportant in the years to come if he doesn't ever return.
But Rosalina at least returned with Galaxy 2 and was looking to be one of the main cast of characters in Mario. Ghirahim, we don't get as much vibe from him as we did Rosalina.
Bull.
There was also a Gamecube port of OoT.
Actually I think we would have had King Dedede or someone to that extend?
On the third point wouldn't girahim getting into smash make him not forgetful? I mean look at mother and f zero and sheik. Putting a character intyuo smash make them more popular as a whole.
We already seen Sakurai reference to Super Mario 3D World in one pic-of-the-day, so we already know we could potentially get content newly present in the whole year of 2013 than just past Pokemon X and Y content, but the main reason for me is that I think Dixie Kong is getting in, and Tropical Freeze will be the main reason she gets in.
The clones of Melee are the reason I loved that game, the lack thereof in Brawl is the reason I hated that roster.
I have always been an advocate for a Legend of Zelda newcomer, even prior to the trophy quiz theory (which serves to confirm my beliefs); however, I can most certainly agree with your last statement. I have lost the right to complain about anything pertaining to the characters in this game as I already have everything I need and I presumably have everything that I want (Ridley... Ghirahim or Impa
). So once (if ) Black Shadow is confirmed as something other than playable, I will not even be able to express my disdain.
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