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KenithTheGatherer said:
I don't think Toon Zelda is that likely.

I think the Zelda newcomer comes down to Ghirahim and Tetra at this point.
Tetra has a lot more in her favour than Toon Zelda.
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I'm trying to think what Ghirahim can bring as a gameplay archetype. (Sorry if I'm going around talking about unique gameplay styles)

I can see Ghirahim be an extreme glass cannon (worse than even Jigglypuff), but being a huge stealth maniac. Being able to disappear from attacks and maneuver around players easily, but a couple of strong hits would send him flying. I feel his whole game would center around maneuverability and stealth.
 
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One pretty big reason why I support Michael Jones, and Simon Belmont, is because the Yoyo and the whip are bound to make them middle-ranged forces.

I think one of the reasons why ZSS does so good is due to her superior spacing with the plasma whip. (And because she's unrivaled in this department).
Call me a purist, but I'd like to see someone that canonically uses a whip/flail like weapon be in the roster as well.


As for Takamaru, how is it he hasn't happened yet? I like to think that his role in SW3, Nintendoland, and Captain Rainbow is an Avengers-like build up to Takamaru in SSB4. I mean, there's literally no other reason why Nintendo would randomly start calling him back from the dead after just ONE game.
He'd certainly be my favorite sword user to ever grace SSB.
 
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TumblrFamous said:
I'm trying to think what Ghirahim can bring as a gameplay archetype. (Sorry if I'm going around talking about unique gameplay styles)

I can see Ghirahim be an extreme glass cannon (worse than even Jigglypuff), but being a huge stealth maniac. Being able to disappear from attacks and maneuver around players easily, but a couple of strong hits would send him flying. I feel his whole game would center around maneuverability and stealth.
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This could work, though the problem is that it wouldn't be faithful to the character, as Ghirahim, being a Sword Spirit and essentially having metal skin, is quite durable.

For the hell of it, here's the special moves I'm working on.

NSpecial: Shadow Daggers: Ghirahim charges and creates levitating daggers to surround him. The amount he creates depends on how long it is charged, and he can create up to six. Pressing the button again will release the daggers in a specified direction, this can also be charged. If attacks hit the daggers, Ghirahim will take no damage but the daggers disappear.

SSpecial: Conjure: Ghirahim summons a henchmen to fight for him. This can be charged, but better summons are not guaranteed by this, there is still the chance the conjuring will fail to summon the right monster. Among them, Bokoblins, who runs and slashes wildly at enemies, a swarm of three Keese, who repeatedly bite enemies, and Moblins, who act like a wall. Occasionally you may summon a Cursed Bokoblin which doesn't attack but is a little more resilient. Ghirahim will frown when this happens.

USpecial: Warp: Ghirahim snaps his fingers and teleports in the specified direction. He can go farther if he holds the button, but these leaves him open for attack.

DSpecial: Undetermined.

-- Ghirahim is generally floaty, but also fast. Since he lacks a high falling speed, Warping is used to reposition himself. His standard moves involve various slapping, kicking and punching, but for his Smash attacks he summons swords.
 
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KenithTheGatherer said:
This could work, though the problem is that it wouldn't be faithful to the character, as Ghirahim, being a Sword Spirit and essentially having metal skin, is quite durable.

For the hell of it, here's the special moves I'm working on.

NSpecial: Shadow Daggers: Ghirahim charges and creates levitating daggers to surround him. The amount he creates depends on how long it is charged, and he can create up to six. Pressing the button again will release the daggers in a specified direction, this can also be charged. If attacks hit the daggers, Ghirahim will take no damage but the daggers disappear.

SSpecial: Conjure: Ghirahim summons a henchmen to fight for him. This can be charged, but better summons are not guaranteed by this, there is still the chance the conjuring will fail to summon the right monster. Among them, Bokoblins, who runs and slashes wildly at enemies, a swarm of three Keese, who repeatedly bite enemies, and Moblins, who act like a wall. Occasionally you may summon a Cursed Bokoblin which doesn't attack but is a little more resilient. Ghirahim will frown when this happens.

USpecial: Warp: Ghirahim snaps his fingers and teleports in the specified direction. He can go farther if he holds the button, but these leaves him open for attack.

DSpecial: Undetermined.

-- Ghirahim is generally floaty, but also fast. Since he lacks a high falling speed, Warping is used to reposition himself. His standard moves involve various slapping, kicking and punching, but for his Smash attacks he summons swords.
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I could hang with a summoner based moveset (It's my favorite archytype after puppeteer which Rosalina is shaping up to be hopefully). I don't know anything about Ghirahim, but I could see him (or a character like him) working like undead casters from Gladius, in which they essentially summon creatures/minions at the cost of health (or % in this case) and his standard moves are spectacularly average.

I just really want a summoner.

Plus it'd be great to see how mad the competetive scene gets at one :troll:
 
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All 4 could be pretty unique in their own aspects. I dob believe we are getting a zelda newcomer for the record.
 
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CliffJumper said:
Ghirahim's merits aren't very high, so I wouldn't consider him possible
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He's the most requested out of the 4he was around at the perfect time when sakurai was deciding the roster. Also the trophy theory is a thing. Definetly more merit than a 3rd zelda atleast
 
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A new Zelda character that could potentially make the roster is a very debatable topic from what I've noticed. Everyone has decent evidence to back up the various Zelda newcomer contenders, but at the same time, people seem to only get behind their favorites. I don't think everyone is ever going to agree which character is most likely to join until it happens, and even then, we may not even get a Zelda newcomer this time around.

But for the record, I'm rooting for either Toon Zelda or Tetra.
 
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ElPanandero said:
I think we should get two. Toon Zelda AND Toon Ganondorf:troll:
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If a Zelda type dual reveal would actually happen. I can actually kinda see something like this happening. A revamped Ganondorf build around his Wind Waker appearance and Toon Zelda coming along as an added bonus (And conductor Link alt for Toon Link as a special bonus because why the heck not?). Kinda like Robin and Lucina....

Anyway, I'm just banking on Ganondorf for now....
 
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CliffJumper said:
Oh come on, we can see at least one more Mario character, they're the mascot franchise of Nintendo for crying out loud.
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Pokemon also might be getting six and maybe zelda as well. A sixth mario character would be fine
 
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My Zelda bets would be: Toon Zelda, Toon Ganonorf, or Impa. I don't think anyone else would really matter. Especially not Grihaim who seems to be the Zant of this generation.

I'm against over representations of franchises, but since we're on Zelda, I'd go for Impa because she's not Link#3, Zelda#2/3, or Ganon#2.
 
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MorbidAltruism said:
Not necessarily as there is not a feasible correlation between Vaati and Fi or the "Ballad of Goddess" does not pertain to his character. However, it certainly helps Vaati, but not to the same extent.
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Fi is sealed inside the Master Sword, and Vaati is sealed inside the Four Sword, the 2nd most used sword in Zelda. So, while not a sword-spirit, he's still relates to Fi in the same way Ghirahim does.
 
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ScatmansWorld25 said:
Fi is sealed inside the Master Sword, and Vaati is sealed inside the Four Sword, the 2nd most used sword in Zelda. So, while not a sword-spirit, he's still relates to Fi in the same way Ghirahim does.
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I suppose one could interpret such, I am quite impressed. Albeit, it still does not explain the "Ballad of the Goddess" score during the trophy quiz. I believe that the songs are more relevant than the actual characters illuminated as trophies as "Id-Purpose" is undeniably related to Robin. In that event, I would assert that Impa is aided in the same vein as Ghirahim, not Vaati.
 
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ScatmansWorld25 said:
Fi is sealed inside the Master Sword, and Vaati is sealed inside the Four Sword, the 2nd most used sword in Zelda. So, while not a sword-spirit, he's still relates to Fi in the same way Ghirahim does.
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Isn't that a stretch?
 
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While I'm not all that much of a Ghirahim supporter, I do believe that the trophy theory helps his chances, enough so that now I add him as the sixth zelda rep. Besides we already have a precedent for one-game characters with gender-ambiguity in Smash.


...meaning Sheik
 
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MorbidAltruism said:
I suppose one could interpret such, I am quite impressed. Albeit, it still does not explain the "Ballad of the Goddess" score during the trophy quiz. I believe that the songs are more relevant than the actual characters illuminated as trophies as "Id-Purpose" is undeniably related to Robin. In that event, I would assert that Impa is aided in the same vein as Ghirahim, not Vaati.
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And that's why I think Impa could be a contender too, which makes me think that it's a Ghirahim vs Impa vs Vaati thing right now.

False Sense said:
Isn't that a stretch?
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As much as a stretch as the Trophy Theory itself, yes.
 
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