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Challenger Approaching!!! ROY!! .PAC UP!!!! 12/7/09 at 3:36 AM EST

libertyernie

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Well, you can't have both Roy and Marth in anyway.
And just for the record, I think clones are OK sometimes. Toon Link is the only new clone in Brawl, and he's very much his own character.

EDIT: Just checked the Project M thread. What they said was:
No. No clone engine.
That means you can't add characters, only replace them, and I don't think they want to remove any characters, especially Marth.
 

[TSON]

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I couldn't find the YL thread >.<

And I don't think I can do that because P:M's using those physics on TL afaik, so we'll see.
 

mariokart64n

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aww, great find you guys. this was an old image I took, to demostrate the importance of bones.. and it greatly relates to vertex hacking today. or any sort of future model importing we may be capible of later.

the theory is quite simple, a model has a skeleton like anyone else. but if the model does not fit that skeleton, it won't move (or animate) properly. so pre-plan is key to anything. also vertexWeight hacking will help solve petty movement issues



I'd really like to have vertexWeight hacking possible before starting anymore vertex hacking projects.
 

RoytheRoyalBoy

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aww, great find you guys. this was an old image I took, to demostrate the importance of bones.. and it greatly relates to vertex hacking today. or any sort of future model importing we may be capible of later.

the theory is quite simple, a model has a skeleton like anyone else. but if the model does not fit that skeleton, it won't move (or animate) properly. so pre-plan is key to anything. also vertexWeight hacking will help solve petty movement issues



I'd really like to have vertexWeight hacking possible before starting anymore vertex hacking projects.
Ichigo kurosaki used Metaknight as the model and im pretty sure they had like no similar amount of bones, so you might wanna ask him for advice on the petty movements, the name was Leon or something
 

AGFanProduction

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You can Get The Melee Airdodge Using The ''SSBM Airdodge'' code by Phantom Wings <_<!

SSBM Air Dodge [Phantom Wings]
80000000 80623320
80000001 00000000
60000006 00000000
80000002 806212BC
4A001000 00000000
36000024 00000007
92210003 00000024
86100003 000001C4
88000002 00000003
4A001002 00000000
92210002 00000000
4A001002 00000000
DE000000 80008180
92210003 00000010
92210004 00000014
86A00003 40000000
86A00004 3FE00000
60000003 00000001
4A001000 00000000
4A101001 00000000
36000000 00000032
58010000 00000004
DE000000 80008180
58010000 00000060
92210006 0000007C
92210007 00000014
9221000A 00000018
58010000 00000088
92210008 00000058
92210009 00000064
4A001006 00000000
30000038 00000021
4A001007 00000000
36000040 41C00000
4A001008 00000000
1400000C 3E300000
4A001007 00000000
36000041 41000000
4A00100A 00000000
92210005 00000010
88900005 00000004
94210005 00000010
4A001009 00000000
94210003 00000008
4A001007 00000000
34000041 41000000
4A001009 00000000
14000008 00000000
E2000001 00000000
80100001 00000008
62000000 00000001
E200000F 00000000
80000001 00000000
80100000 00000244
62000000 00000000
4A000000 8077F780
D2000000 00000006
2C030000 41820010
2C1C000E 40820014
819E0038 2C0C0021
40820008 3B800010
60000000 939E0038
60000000 00000000

......
 

Marthmaster800

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Is it possible to "lock" Roy into one Marth costume? Because when I downloaded the Full Roy Pack I noticed fitMarth00.pac to fitmarth05.pac.
 

sph0nz

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This is awesome! I thought the first retextured Roy pac was awesome, but this new one actually includes his Melee model instead of creating his hair from scratch. Amazing job guys. I can only imagine Brawl hacking will become better and better over time.
 

dirtboy345

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it doesn't matter you can easily change it and the costume slot depends on weather or not you use the moveset plus team colors, do you want roy to be default slot on marth with messing up blue team or him on a different slot messing up default
 

ds22

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You can Get The Melee Airdodge Using The ''SSBM Airdodge'' code by Phantom Wings <_<!

SSBM Air Dodge [Phantom Wings]
80000000 80623320
80000001 00000000
60000006 00000000
80000002 806212BC
4A001000 00000000
36000024 00000007
92210003 00000024
86100003 000001C4
88000002 00000003
4A001002 00000000
92210002 00000000
4A001002 00000000
DE000000 80008180
92210003 00000010
92210004 00000014
86A00003 40000000
86A00004 3FE00000
60000003 00000001
4A001000 00000000
4A101001 00000000
36000000 00000032
58010000 00000004
DE000000 80008180
58010000 00000060
92210006 0000007C
92210007 00000014
9221000A 00000018
58010000 00000088
92210008 00000058
92210009 00000064
4A001006 00000000
30000038 00000021
4A001007 00000000
36000040 41C00000
4A001008 00000000
1400000C 3E300000
4A001007 00000000
36000041 41000000
4A00100A 00000000
92210005 00000010
88900005 00000004
94210005 00000010
4A001009 00000000
94210003 00000008
4A001007 00000000
34000041 41000000
4A001009 00000000
14000008 00000000
E2000001 00000000
80100001 00000008
62000000 00000001
E200000F 00000000
80000001 00000000
80100000 00000244
62000000 00000000
4A000000 8077F780
D2000000 00000006
2C030000 41820010
2C1C000E 40820014
819E0038 2C0C0021
40820008 3B800010
60000000 939E0038
60000000 00000000

......
Just tried it and it felt like it had a shorter reach (but I'm not sure).
Also, this requires you to change your codeset.
 

AGFanProduction

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Just tried it and it felt like it had a shorter reach (but I'm not sure).
Also, this requires you to change your codeset.
My Codeset has more than 100 codes.....This one Its the Airdodge that I am Using :)
This was the First code that I Enable in the Code set :) (The First time that I Play Brawl ''HACKED'' :bee:)
(Its in the Middle of all the Codes :p)
I play always with It, Its similar to Melee Like you said ''it had a shorter reach''
Its True, I have Melee and the Melee Airdodge has a long reach (Isn't much the Difference with this Code ;))
and
Change the Codeset Its Easy (Only, If you have Patience!)

and Guys the Latest download.....Its my Melee PSA from the Full Roy Pack V2, with The Melee Airdodge?
 

ds22

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Your right, Melee didn't have that much reach (but don't say that I don't have patience).
And No, the latest Roy PSA wasn't from your download, it has Melee Physics (I added the Airdodge while TSON added the Physics).
 

AGFanProduction

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Your right, Melee didn't have that much reach (but don't say that I don't have patience).
And No, the latest Roy PSA wasn't from your download, it has Melee Physics (I added the Airdodge while TSON added the Physics).
Its true,
I will Try that thing right Now! :bee:
but TSON make that PSA using my PSA as a base? :confused:
 

AGFanProduction

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Try the one he posted.
And also try (if you want) the CoN Naruto with Melee Physics (the link is in my sig).
You'll love his Wavedash.

I wouldn't know if he did, but I don't think he did use yours.

Trying.....
I love to make Wavedashs!
I will try Naruto only because you are recomending It to Me ;) wait for Edit....
 

Marthmaster800

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So what you're saying is that Marth v Roy is possible. If I put Roy in FitMarth02.pac and Marth in the rest, Marth can vs Roy.
 

RoytheRoyalBoy

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While you can use the Roy texture as a one slot texture, his moveset can't be one slotted.
You'll either have to use Marth's moveset or Roy's moveset.
BUT, by using the taunt properties, it is possible to get Roy moveset after taunting right? If so, the can anybody tell me how to do this, i never used the programs from psa but all i need to learn is using the taunt. Btw, you know how zelda and sheik have different texture and stuff right? is there a way to make a Roy file and put the texture in there, then using the taunt property that zero suit samus used, we could switch the texture AND the moveset :D
 

Wolfric

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That isn't possible, Zelda and Sheik have diferent texture and stuff because they're diferent characters, each one with their own Files, same with Charizard/Ivysawr/Squirtle.

But, the Taunt thing is being worked on by dingoberriz I think.
 

RoytheRoyalBoy

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That isn't possible, Zelda and Sheik have diferent texture and stuff because they're diferent characters, each one with their own Files, same with Charizard/Ivysawr/Squirtle.

But, the Taunt thing is being worked on by dingoberriz I think.
yeah, but what i'm saying is is it possible to make another file? Then we could change between them just like pokemons, zelda/sheik and zzs/samus.
 

dirtboy345

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no no no those other characters have new folders and everything im not sure if you can but you can probably change the moveset with a taunt, but that wouldn't work with costumes or anything
 

Wolfric

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yeah, but what i'm saying is is it possible to make another file? Then we could change between them just like pokemons, zelda/sheik and zzs/samus.
You're talking about cloning the files to add a spot, which is not possible, they always had this in mind, but never figured out, thought, right now, it IS possible to swap from Marth's to Roy's Moveset using a taunt and even add Roy's "hair" when doing so, but Textures, not possible this way.
 

RoytheRoyalBoy

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You're talking about cloning the files to add a spot, which is not possible, they always had this in mind, but never figured out, thought, right now, it IS possible to swap from Marth's to Roy's Moveset using a taunt and even add Roy's "hair" when doing so, but Textures, not possible this way.
so they never understood the mechanics behind transformation? :( Can't they inspect the character to see if there is like a birdge between them?
 
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