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Chain grab for ditto marths?

Rave925

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Hmmm...I don't know if this works all the time, but I noticed that if you do a forward grab on marth then do a dash down grab, you can just turn around, do the dash forward grab again and do a down grab which racks up damage nicely. You can actually pull this little trick off about three times if done right, but by then they have too much damage and usually travel out too far to catch them in mid-air and their stun lag is gone. I did this on practice mode if you wanted to know. But yeah, I don't know if this little chain grab I found works on all characters, but I thought this might be atleast a little helpful. Besides, I think the first two chain grabs should work right, plus it's not like they will see it coming. tell me what you think.
 

Shaya

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This 'chain grab' only does up to 15%.

This has been posted before.

It works on the spacies, Marth, and some other characters. It is not useful.

You are better off throwing them and moving into an attack move, such as fsmash/fair/ftilt.

The only chaingrab that is technically efficient on Marth is two fthrows to fsmash (even though you're better off down throwing to fsmash).
 

Rave925

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This 'chain grab' only does up to 15%.

This has been posted before.

It works on the spacies, Marth, and some other characters. It is not useful.

You are better off throwing them and moving into an attack move, such as fsmash/fair/ftilt.

The only chaingrab that is technically efficient on Marth is two fthrows to fsmash (even though you're better off down throwing to fsmash).
awwww man, i was hoping this could actually be used for something, but oh well. This chain grab thing is also pretty hard to pull off and would be easier just doing fthrow to fair like you said. Thanks for atleast replying to this.
 

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Hey, by all means, if you want to really piss off an opponent, use it.

Even though the damage is low, Marth's stupendously weak throws actually means that you do 4-6 'chains' of the grab. At the 15%-ish mark you can still easily move into tilts or aerials.

But yeah, it's not easy to do, and as I said, more damaging and quicker things are available. It's a mind game tactic at best.
 

Rave925

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Hey, by all means, if you want to really piss off an opponent, use it.

Even though the damage is low, Marth's stupendously weak throws actually means that you do 4-6 'chains' of the grab. At the 15%-ish mark you can still easily move into tilts or aerials.

But yeah, it's not easy to do, and as I said, more damaging and quicker things are available. It's a mind game tactic at best.
Hey Shaya, you seem to know what you're talking about. You wanna brawl my marth sometime and critique it. I can critique you as well if you'd like.
 

HADOOKEN

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heh, nice try Rave,

its seems its all been done befor...

i guess all there is left is too practice and get better,

unless ofcourse something big comes along...
 

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I'm in Australia.

Brawling on wifi with you may be horrid. I'd be willing to brawl maybe west-coasters in the US, but other areas may be pushing the laaaag barrier.

Willing to brawl anyone though who'd then let me send them matches to put on youtube though :D
 

Rave925

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I'm in Australia.

Brawling on wifi with you may be horrid. I'd be willing to brawl maybe west-coasters in the US, but other areas may be pushing the laaaag barrier.

Willing to brawl anyone though who'd then let me send them matches to put on youtube though :D
crap, well i guess i cant brawl you then, oh well.
 

IDK

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yeah people tend to do worse if they think they're getting *****, even if it was only 15%
 

3xSwords

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You can only truly chain f-throws on spacies, against other characters its just harder for them to get out and as such you will probably be able to "chain" them. Don't know about how well Diminished Returns affects this but I don't think I'm willing to chain 5, 1% throws.
 

VietGeek

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yeah people tend to do worse if they think they're getting *****, even if it was only 15%
What are you talking about?! If you're getting *****, get pumped up and start kicking some ***. So what if you're at 150% damage and one Fox Usmash will kill you?

Oh wait.
 

Retroking2000

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well when i play rave and steel2nd ,

there is delay , but not major delay like the 2/3 speed delay

well put it this way my connection is usually orange with them haha , just under average(yellow)

but i would like to play you sometime ike is solid :)

would be great if rave /steel2nd could comment on whats it like at their end ,

but to me our games are not horrible its playable

also when i played rave he is very good marth i like american marth styles especially since they play smart ,and precise

but in our first game i won because i dont think i was better than him

maybe

he just couldnt fight a european marths well /didnt know our style

as the matches continued our matches went even ,

but after he posted saying , i know your better than me

that was sometime ago ,

i played him 2 days ago i believe only one match because i think he had to play his friend in like 5mins

well i beat him in that match giving him a ken combo :) to remember me by
enough joking he has to be the best marth i played anyway
 

Rave925

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rave is the best marth i have played .

wait im not sure out of steel2nd and rave

haha
Thank you for this very friendly post. This makes me happy inside, lol. ^_^ But we need to battle again, because from what I can remember, you're actually better than me. I need to change that...hopefully.
 

Retroking2000

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yeah sure :)

im up for a brawl with anyone

just played 3 hrs of brawl . sheik dittos

i played some pro sheik ,

man americans are so **** good

but yeah sure i will play you anytime rave but england and U,S there is a 5 hr time difference we are 5hrs ahead ,
haha

so we got to arrange a good time for both of us

heck maybe

you might destroy me in our next marth mirror match
 

Rave925

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yeah sure :)

im up for a brawl with anyone

just played 3 hrs of brawl . sheik dittos

i played some pro sheik ,

man americans are so **** good

but yeah sure i will play you anytime rave but england and U,S there is a 5 hr time difference we are 5hrs ahead ,
haha

so we got to arrange a good time for both of us

heck maybe

you might destroy me in our next marth mirror match
Well to reply from the lag part, I do get some pretty serious lag when i play you, but I still get fun out of it no matter how bad it is. We could play sometime today if that was good with you. Also, If I ever beat you in a Marth ditto, I wouldn't call it me destroying you. It would be more along the lines of a really close match.
 
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