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Celebrity Mafia: The Revenge of Elin Nordegren (GAME OVER! Did Elin get her revenge?)

th3kuzinator

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@Roxy, I thought you specifically asked July that question. Is it fair game for me to answer?

Consider this if ANYTHING at all. You're killing one of the only people pushing activity, and expecting that something will magically change tomorrow that things will get better? No, that is not going to help town in the least. Stop looking at the first two pages of D2 and look at the rest dammit.
Whole paragraph is gross. "I am active, so dont lynch me." "Things wont change tomorrow, so kill inactivity now and let me live longer." "Ignore my scummy posts from earlier and switch your vote because I am being louder than Delvro now."

@Axel, either vote roxy or make a damn good case on Clownbot. If you choose the latter option, get to that asap.
 

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It's fair game for you to answer, I did specifically ask both of you that question.

You're making everything I say sound like ****, however what I said is truth to an extent. This game is inactive, and most of the information being passed along is between you, me, and July correct (answer this question with yes or no, if no, who else has?). Dourin only dropped in once when you guys were pressuring me, and that's all he's done correct? (answer this question with yes or no, if no, what else has he done?). Axel (zen and j) have not been here at ALL except for the recent lynch, only saying "we shouldn't kill roxy" but doing it anyways (correct? say yes or no, if no, what else has he said?)

I've given you as much info as I can, I've skimmed/read this thread about 3-4 times looking for info to get my views on Axel/Delvro and I'd be damned if I'm going to sit here and die anyway.

Stop being hard-headed Kuz
 

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Personally, I do.

But it's not enough and I don't have the time to save you which is pretty sad in it's own to say.
 

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This game is inactive
I am glad you understand that, but that does not mean I am going to go chase inactives over someone who I find legitimately scummy.

I've given you as much info as I can
Which will all be affirmed once you flip. Don't you get it? I don't trust anything you say right now because I am not sure of your alignment.
 

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I just ****ed up and lost most of my content. Working on post, but I see that Roxy is at L-1...and refuses to claim. I don't even know what to think, I'm going to finish what I was working on, will have that within the hour, sorry. Then respond to this.
 

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You refuse to claim at L-1?

Do you not see how ****ing anti-town that is? You are hinting that you have a PR yet you wont tell us so one of us can unvote before someone hammers. Stop being an idiot.
 

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Sorry I didn't pick up on your 700 crumbs which were so obvious that EVERYONE caught onto them.

Lets play 20 questions some more, this is productive.
 

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Don't overthink it, this is information I have told you before and i would think you would've looked back to confirm if ANYTHING
 

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So, because rPSI said you were vt during D1 I should have taken it as fact and confirmed your story by re-reading what was said from a dead townie? This is literally the same type of WIFOM we already talked about not using in relationship to rPSI's thoughts on your alignment before he died. I could just as easily counter that you specifically claimed vt because rPSI "has never been wrong on your alignment before" and "he thought I was vt before he died." It. gets. us. nowhere.
 

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Nice defense. Just dismiss it all as tunneling.

Roxy said:
Why do you think Kuz is on me? Because he outside of everyone else on this lynch, has viable reasons to feel that I am scum, through legitimately reading my posts.
So before I had viable reason to be voting you, but now I am simply tunneling. Pretty convenient way to flip flop your stance on the person who is pushing you the hardest when your head is on the chopping block. What caused the transition from "viable reason" to "hard-headed?"
 

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You're tunneling right now Kuz, yes you are.
What caused the transition from "viable reason" to "hard-headed?"
Serious question. I am playing the same way as how I did when you told me I had viable reasoning. YOU decided that my playstyle changed. I want to know why its convenient for you to say that now, when it was not tunneling before.
 

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Clown lynch toMorrow most likely after your flip sadly.

*waves at rPSI viewing*

Wait we have over 24 hours in a game full of active people and you say it is too late to switch the lynch to someone like Clown who is purposefully scummy? Zen, can I please put our vote on Clown?

Grr this is annoying.
 

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Pot calling the kettle black? Where you not the one who doctored my quote earlier toDay to try and throw it back in my face with the same argument?
 

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Ffff,

Lynch Clown. Clown Clown Clown needs to die. Roxy is town.

Zen and other person, you disappointed me.
Why can you not give us legitimate reasons? Why depend on someone else to tell why Clown is scummy and why Roxy is apparently town?

Team lookin MAD CLOSE YO

Dourin needs to die too. stop ignoring him
Dourin is not going to be ignored, Dourin needs to post more legit content because right now I admit he hasn't provided anything useful lately.

@Dourin, I would like your thoughts on Axel.

Well then can we even expect that post at all? Will you give us enough time to react to it before the deadine? If you truly believed Roxy was obvTown where have you been for the past 6 days? Why come to his aid now, when time is running out, just to get your final thoughts in before he is lynch? Why are you posting one liners in this thread when you know that you have promised us a larger one full of content?

Are all questions that come to mind.

To me, it sounds like you know he is town and just want to look good for supporting him before he dies, but not push hard enough to actually sway the lynch off him.
This. If that second part isn't the case, why be so cryptic about everything? You seem to know that Roxy is town while none of the rest do, we can't be sure about his intentions, and we can't be sure about your intentions and refusing to provide information only makes that more true.

Why ask me questions about someone else? I really have no idea why Delvro's agreeing with me, and out of all the times Zen AND J separately have viewed this thread, they haven't said anything. One thing I could imagine is that perhaps they know that I will end up dying after this huge hole I've been stuck in, and don't see any information I give as a threat becuase of that. After all, I'm a scummy looking Vanilla Townie, they've seen how information from past town members have been thrown away to the wind (read: rPSI, Cello), and feel by instead of arguing it, just letting me die and the Day blow over that things went go alright that way.
Sorry, those were late night hypothetical questions more than legit questions, just these were the things that came into my head as I read that part of your post. And that's not going to happen; we considered Cello's information and the hammer but nothing scummy other than Axel's lack of content has persisted from that, and rPSI's information was considered and his lynch was considered in how it would benefit scum, and it pointed back to you, and then your reaction only exacerbated that.

And the reason we are lynching you is because your lynch will give us information about Axel, as well as Dourin and Delvro. Also, we had to force content out of you, you gave us scum picks eventually but whether or not they are genuine is up in the air. Your lynch will tell us what your intent was and what we can do with your predictions about Axel/Dourin/Delvro, that's a lot more information than anyone else's lynch could provide toDay, including Clown.

Much more suspicious? In what way am I much more suspicious than say, Dourin right now? Because of my constant talking? Or because of the initial d2 conversation? Everyone is ignorant of D1 now that D2 is happened; seems silly to me.
Your d2 activity has a lot to do with it, your connections to everyone in town and the fact that you've AtE'd and twisted people's words also doesn't make me feel better about you. You have given us information, but once again it was almost coerced, so we can't even consider whether or not its legitimate until we know what your alignment is. Thus far toDay Dourin has been quiet and stayed in the background, and I agree that is something that has been taken for granted and needs considered toMorrow but toDay that doesn't provide us with much to go off of and in fact makes a case against Joey even more convincing than Dourin.

Which reminds me, where is Joey? His opinion d2 has been pretty much non-existent, if I'm right he is still voting Swiss which isn't a viable lynch option toDay.

Unnecessary connections perhaps?
Perhaps, it is definitely something to be considered.

Incase Kuz doesn't answer, July what information would I give? Just curious
Addressed this earlier in post.

People naturally distance themselves to some extent, this doesn't mean it will be blatant distancing like you did in KSSU, but it might be distancing such as putting a read on a person, and then turning away from it when something else arises; it's good to keep that in mind.
I understand, but people can consciously overcome that natural tendency and if we start looking for not only distancing but what could possibly be distancing and scummy behavior and bussing at this point we are going to get overwhelmed, distancing needs to be considered but right now we can't go looking for things that might or might prove anything other than one person really hasn't come into conflict with another person yet.

Why aren't swiss and nabe lynch options? Not saying I want them lynched, but just out of curiousity.
They are not viable lynch options for toDay. Someone can make a case against Nabe toMorrow, but toDay there is literally no time for someone to build a case and convince a majority of the players that Nabe is scum based on the content we have on him when we have other viable lynch options with actual scummy content. Swiss is having computer problems and regardless of his d1 activity lynching him toDay would be a really *****y move. Furthermore, a Nabe lynch or a Dourin lynch, even if they flipped scum, at this point would leave us with very little information to go off of, and if they flipped town we'd be realllly screwed for information.

So does this mean we're lynching me toMorrow? :|

Unvote, Vote Roxy

Still think Naxelvro would be better candidates. At least I think I think that.
I agree that Axel and Delvro are reaallly scummy and are good candidates to look at toMorrow, but if you only think that you think that you are still going to be a candidate to. We need stronger opinions from you or else your stances are unreliable.

Glad I got that spectacular content I was looking for, now I can plainly see why Clownbot is now scum.

THAT was the post you promised us with content? THAT was the post you planned to use to convince us clown was scum?

No, J, YOU disappoint me.

Add Axel to the people I would be okay with lynching tomorrow. Axel/Delvro/Clown.

This is getting ****ing ridiculous. We have one more day and freaking Roxy is giving me more content then you everyone else is. ****ty town effort so far, at least act like you care about this game.
WHY IS THIS SUCH A TOWNIE POST :MAD:

*slams face into table*

Must. Stay strong. On reads.
Add Nabe to that list for tomorrow too.

SO MUCH FREAKING SCUM THIS GAME.
Alright, right now Roxy is the best lynch option we have toDay. His flip will provide us with a lot of information, and then toMorrow we just need to look at...pretty much everyone.

That's why Roxy's lynch is so important, we get more information and more of a direction to go in toMorrow with his flip than with any other action toDay. ToMorrow we all have people we want to look at and we will have time for that then, but for now we have to commit to a lynch and go through with it.
 

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Okay. Now im ****ing pissed. Did you not just give an entire schpeal about how self-voting is one of the most anti-town things possible?

I am going to be SHOCKED if you flip town. That and pretty mad.
 

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Okay. Now im ****ing pissed. Did you not just give an entire schpeal about how self-voting is one of the most anti-town things possible?

I am going to be SHOCKED if you flip town. That and pretty mad.
I'm not going to get away from L-1 or lynching, you're being hard-headed and making everything I say turn to ****. You need to try to step back and stop pushing for something. You're ignoring EVERYTHING I say and making it sound like scum.

Are you seriously going to push everything I say against me makign me look like the lynch choice NO MATTER WHAT, and THEN get pissed off?

Yeah **** you.

And Guess what, I am Vanilla Townie legitimately. rPSI had a solid read on me, and this just shows you're completely ignorant of obvious things and push way to hard on bull****. Stop overthinking, stop being hardheaded.
 

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Roxy, scum picks and town reads before flip?

Again, if I remember it's Delvro/Axel/Clown but who is your town reads or who is more leading null?
 

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I don't even know anymore J. No one's talking worth a damn, Swiss promised some content and ignored it, Kuz is being hardheaded and i'm not sure if this is just being ignorant or being scum, July is parroting, Delvro isn't saying **** except "SAVE ROXY", Nabe isn't saying **** except the exact opposite as Delvro, You're AtE'ing to me, Clownbot playing dense, Dourin's parroting.

W/E, this game is just really dumb right now, and i don't see it changing.

Sorry that wasn't of much help, just stick with the information I gave earlier.
 

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I understand you're pissed, but there was no reason to self-hammer at all. Swiss could have brought new insight to the table when he woke up tomorrow morning, Axel could have tried to push for clown. What you did was anti-town and I suppose apologies are needed at endgame if you are telling the truth, but there was no reason for you to end the Day for us.
 
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