Celebrity Mafia: The Revenge of Elin Nordegren (GAME OVER! Did Elin get her revenge?)

[Purple]

Okay, so i'm sitting here thinking of what I can do to pull some scum reads out of my ***; not just off the wall scum reads, but -legitimate- scum reads.

While I was reading, I found some threads that Joey gave me in the beginning of this game; I read them pretty slow, but noticed in the player list that a lot of players that played in this game, also played in that one. In fact a -very- large group of you are in that game. (joey, nabe, july, dourin) in the second game , kuz in there as well.

SO yeah! Meta-trip! Then I noticed July was scum in the KSSU game.

After skimming the thread, I noticed a habit that July had as scum; she'd, while having 'reads' on her scumbuddy, would distance herself heavily from her scumbuddy otherwise.

Then it hit me, I need to check for distance just as much as I need to check for connections. So, I decided to go into read mode and checking each person and seeing how they look.

The first person I checked, I happened to have a distancing act with.
1. Axel (J/Zen) - After reading into Axel, I noticed something. He commented into everyone

except Delvro.

He has talked and asked legitimate questions to the entire -town-, however conversation with Delvro has been minimal, very minimal. The only thing i saw them discuss with something in relation to Joey. Delvro also, for a SPLIT second voted Axel during his wagon, however after about 10 posts or so, Delvro took the high way off and unvoted, talking casually with Axel ever since.

Also, Axel specifically said

"Regardless of Cello's flip, we kill Roxy next"

Now he's playing the dumb game? "Oh, who do we lynch now?"

This might very well be Zen/J each talking in two seperate posts, but shouldn't they have something like this discussed?

He also has a 'strong' town read on Kuz, with that being said, I never liked people overly confident in town reads, especially after only one day (when Axel made this claim, yesterDay was no where near over), what gave thsi assumption that Kuz was town? Why was he so confident? Because chances are, he KNEW he was town.

If Axel flipped scum, I'd look towards Delvro and vice versa.

More distancing reads from D1 coming up.

 

[Purple]

Also, if everyone's wondering why I referenced the other games, it's because I checked consistencies in gameplay and alignment, Kuz looked town, as did Joey, July posts a lot like her scum game, which makes me wary; she will probably be the next person i look.


I'm not voting obviously, because i'm not done reading.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@Zen: Clown is town.
@Roxy: July is town.

 

[July]

Okay, so i'm sitting here thinking of what I can do to pull some scum reads out of my ***; not just off the wall scum reads, but -legitimate- scum reads.

This is not instilling me with confidence, but continue.

While I was reading, I found some threads that Joey gave me in the beginning of this game; I read them pretty slow, but noticed in the player list that a lot of players that played in this game, also played in that one. In fact a -very- large group of you are in that game. (joey, nabe, july, dourin) in the second game , kuz in there as well.

True, although kuz was only there for commentary at the beginning and the end of the game.

SO yeah! Meta-trip! Then I noticed July was scum in the KSSU game.

After skimming the thread, I noticed a habit that July had as scum; she'd, while having 'reads' on her scumbuddy, would distance herself heavily from her scumbuddy otherwise.

Very true as well.

Then it hit me, I need to check for distance just as much as I need to check for connections. So, I decided to go into read mode and checking each person and seeing how they look.

The first person I checked, I happened to have a distancing act with.
1. Axel (J/Zen) - After reading into Axel, I noticed something. He commented into everyone

except Delvro.

He has talked and asked legitimate questions to the entire -town-, however conversation with Delvro has been minimal, very minimal. The only thing i saw them discuss with something in relation to Joey. Delvro also, for a SPLIT second voted Axel during his wagon, however after about 10 posts or so, Delvro took the high way off and unvoted, talking casually with Axel ever since.

Interesting, the fact that there is a lack of connection between Delvro and Axel is definitely suspicious, and Axel's refusal to vote anyone but Nabe or Clownbot makes the likelihood of Axel being scum even higher.

Also, Axel specifically said

"Regardless of Cello's flip, we kill Roxy next"

Now he's playing the dumb game? "Oh, who do we lynch now?"

This might very well be Zen/J each talking in two seperate posts, but shouldn't they have something like this discussed?

He also has a 'strong' town read on Kuz, with that being said, I never liked people overly confident in town reads, especially after only one day (when Axel made this claim, yesterDay was no where near over), what gave thsi assumption that Kuz was town? Why was he so confident? Because chances are, he KNEW he was town.

If Axel flipped scum, I'd look towards Delvro and vice versa.

If you can, could you tell me which post that was where he said that regardless of Cello's flip, you are next?

Once again, I want to put Axel off until toMorrow because of his #956. Delvro, on the other hand is not out of the question for me toDay.

@Kuz- what do you think about Axel's #1035 and Roxy's #1041? Would you rather have a Roxy or a Delvro lynch?

@Clownbot, same question.

 

[July]

((note to other head and another persob, think ya can do it before i get back?))

Also, what exactly does this mean? Axel, we only have two days until deadline, we need answers from you now, starting with why not to kill Roxy.

 

[Xivii]

I don't know J's thoughts at all. Not sure why he thinks Nabe. I'm just following whatever he you and Swiss do July.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Axel what made you go against your main D1 scum read?

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12142212&postcount=803

Or was that just Zen who thought that?

@Kuz- what do you think about Axel's #1035 and Roxy's #1041? Would you rather have a Roxy or a Delvro lynch?

I think him coming in here with two days left to the deadline and giving us a different lynch target just as I had my made up my mind on the decision is annoying as ****. He did not even attach a case with his vote, which does bother me because hes been coasting through the entire day. Same with Nabe. Coasting is fine to some extent if you're busy, but I expect to see content asap when they return. I normally would not have a problem with waiting, but we have a short amount of time until the deadline and I am skeptical as to the quality of this content.

Roxy's post was better in a sense that it was an improvement from his other scum hunting attempts, which were atrocious. Lack of connections can be a tell if one of them flips scum. I don't like how Zen responded after Roxy brought up that point against him, but he did not address it.

Roxy > Delvro. We will not get enough info out of a Delvro flip at this point and leaving both Roxy and Clownbot alive will be WIFOM city tomorrow. We need one of em's flip. At the current moment I am comfortable with Roxy and don't plan to switch over to Clown unless Axel's content is spectacular.

 

[Purple]

It's also interesting that neither Delvro and Axel think I shouldn't die today as well.

Alright guys, I just did a read of Dourin(-X)

The reason I checked dourin was because of something July said earlier about him

Dourin D1 came out, acted scummy, got heat for it, recovered and focused on figuring out the Swiss/Cello interaction, which is where a lot of the focus was. The fact that he recovered from that, had helpful input on the nk and has been scum-hunting Day 2 while active makes him of the active players more prone to believe he is town.

I have a problem with this. He literally did the -exact- same thing as me in the beginning of D2; cling onto Cello's comments

Funny thing though, he never brought up Delvro after voting Kuz, just went immediately from Kuz and switched to me; guess it makes sense considering he saw me get blasted for it, and he accordingly jumped on my lynch afterwards.

But didn't he pretty give the same reasoning for his votes? Why would my reasoning for being town be any different?

July I think you're off thinking that he's doing a good job as town, he's merely following along with everyone else about my lynch, and before the Day ended, he had little to no say whatsoever on the Cello lynch, voted him merely because Swiss said so (not demanding him or anything, just said that everyone was on the Cello lynch therefore he should be lynched). And then dropping Swiss entirely today.

I didn't notice though, that Cello said Kuz/Delvro for lynching later; interesting, I guess that's partially why Dourin dropped it?

Changing it to Delvro/Dourin/Axel team

 

[Fried Ice Cream]

I realized it was silly to trust a dead person's suspicions more than my own, so I put Cello's read in the back seat. Your read on Axel makes a lot of sense though.

 

[Purple]

I dislike the previous post, I think this player is scummy and I'll lay an FoS on them. This shows a complete lack of effort and willingness to play, emphasising this players willingness to stay in the background and not be lynched.

I'll make a complete case when I come back, but want to see this player at L-1 when I get back. I won't quickhammer. Honest.

 

[Fried Ice Cream]

I'll make a complete case when I come back, but want to see this player at L-1 when I get back. I won't quickhammer. Honest.

Why don't you vote now then?

 

[th3kuzinator]

LMFAO!!!

freaking Swiss.

 

[Fried Ice Cream]

I dislike the previous post, I think this player is scummy and I'll lay an FoS on them. This shows a complete lack of effort and willingness to play, emphasising this players willingness to stay in the background and not be lynched.

I'll make a complete case when I come back, but want to see this player at L-1 when I get back. I won't quickhammer. Honest.

After thinking about this, this post is getting more ridiculous. Why do you want other people to put me at L-1, while you haven't even made your complete case yet? You should be asking for votes until AFTER you make your case, you know. That's how it usually works. You just want it so you only have to convince one person with your case to get me lynched and not even having to vote me at all.
No, how about you make a complete case on me, then try to convince people at L-1 and hammer me yourself?

 

[th3kuzinator]

Dourin, look at the social thread.

Roxy can still go regardless.

/waits for Axel

 

[Fried Ice Cream]

Bah.

Bah, what a stupid thing to do.

 

[Swiss]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Roxy can go to LyLo.

 

[Fried Ice Cream]

Man, screw Dgames, I'm out.

 

[th3kuzinator]

ETA on that content, Swissaii?

 

[Purple]

I realized it was silly to trust a dead person's suspicions more than my own, so I put Cello's read in the back seat. Your read on Axel makes a lot of sense though.

What made you suddenly realize this? When did you realize this?

 

[Swiss]

ETA on that content, Swissaii?

Soz proski. I have that 'final' stage job interview tomorrow so what time I do have on a comp I'm using for that. And lurking here

Be back by 2mo evening, set up laptop, get on internet, skim the thread, post pseudo content, lynch Clown regardless of what tells I find.

^ Plan

That's 26 hrs 'till content max.

Problem, town?

 

[Purple]

Problem, town?

 

[Clownbot]

Swiss you said Axel could go if he didn't step his **** up. Let's go with him toDay. Unless voting me with no given reason qualifies as him stepping his **** up.

 

[Fried Ice Cream]

Swiss you said Axel could go if he didn't step his **** up. Let's go with him toDay. Unless voting me with no given reason qualifies as him stepping his **** up.

That's not true, because the reason you're being voted is because you hammered Cello before he could come back and say his last things. Pretty damn suspicious, and it would be enough reason for to vote you as well.

 

[Clownbot]

Swiss has actually never said why he was voting me. It's also stupid that he's allegedly going to lynch me regardless of anything that might change his views, and to make an assumption, if you're right about why he's voting me I doubt he'd be doing it if Cello had flipped scum.

 

[Purple]

Dourin defends axel. This team is lookin soooo good.

 

[July]

So yeah, it's Valentine's Day so I'm not going to be able to post until later tonight, I would prefer sticking to a Roxy lynch, if not Roxy then Delvro. And a Roxy vote would also be preferable because of this:

Roxy > Delvro. We will not get enough info out of a Delvro flip at this point and leaving both Roxy and Clownbot alive will be WIFOM city tomorrow. We need one of em's flip. At the current moment I am comfortable with Roxy and don't plan to switch over to Clown unless Axel's content is spectacular.

Just as a precaution:

Vote: Dourin

However, I'm hoping there is not a lynch while I'm gone; I would like to catch up and give my opinion tonight when I can.

 

[Purple]

But, is Delvro dies first wouldn't we be able to further those connections I posted? ='/

 

[TigerWoods]

Votecount
​

1. Axel (J/Zen) (0)
2. Swiss (2) Joey, Delvro
4. Roxy (3) Dourin, Kuz, Nabe
5. -Dourin-X- (1) July
6. Nabe (1) Clownbot
7. -Joey- (0)
8. July (0)
10. Kuz (0)
11. Delvro (0)
12. Clownbot(2) Swiss, Axel

Not voting: Roxy

With 10 alive it takes 6 to Lynch!

Deadline will be FEBURARY 16th at 11:59 PM

 

[Purple]

12. Clownbot(3) Swiss, Axel

got explaining to do? :|

vote: Delvro

 

[TigerWoods]

got explaining to do? :|

vote: Delvro

Foolish mortal. . .


How dare you tell me, the game mod that I of all people could have made a mistake. I SEE NONE AT ALL!

You obviously edited that error into your quote.

 

[Purple]

What can I say, I'm just a little jokester

 

[th3kuzinator]

But here is the thing. Although you have both been playing scummy, we will gain more info off your flip than Delvro's. Delvro has not said much and has not left us much to work with except a theory of yours. Plus, just because you finally gave three scum picks, you are still very very scummy and I have made my decision on the topic. I cannot fully trust your reads. If we hypothetically misylnched Delvro because of your "case" we would move into D3 with two mislynches and a scum read on you so large that it would be very difficult to sway it off. If you are scum, this is less detrimental, but if town that next mislynch will cost us the game. Even if Delvro were to flip scum, we would only have your plan to work off of (which is shoddy at best <_<) while the scumRoxy scumClown wifom would just distract us.

At this point I am just split on whether to go with Clown or Rox toDay, as those two seem to be what everyone is divided on. We really need one of your flips. Swiss and Axel seem to be stuck on clownbot, which is a fine alternative, if someone can actually post some ****ing content. Roxy, if you want to live through the Day, I suggest you convince others why Clown is the lynch because, unless they slip, I am not okay with Dourin and Axel going yet (and I already explained why no to Delvro).

 

[Purple]

Show me where you said no to delvro :|. (I promise I'm not skimming lol; you post a **** load)

I've only really being playing scummy at one point which just started today after my comment about rPSI. That is it. You're making it seem as if I've been playing this way the past two mafia days; I have not.

I'm willing to read into Clownbot to see if something's there, but I'm not willing to push into Clownbot; I want delvro/axel/dourin, to see if my leads go anywhere. I can see why you wouldn't want to pursue any of those considering my d2 play, but i explained the connections or lack thereof to the best of my ability, and I'm confident in it. If you guys end up lynching me so be it, however I really want to see those three dead.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Another thing, you just made posts analyzing Dourin and Axel yet you end up putting your vote on Delvro. Just looks like your scapegoating your vote onto the scummiest looking player of your three scum picks so you can survive toDay. The only thing you have said about Delvro is that he has not been mentioned a lot by Dourin and Axel, but we don't know if either Dourin or Axel is scum.

From your POV, you should either be attacking Axel or Dourin yet you are concentrating on a Delvro lynch out of no-where.

Can we please lynch Roxy? I am in favor of a claim so we can move to Clown if necessary.

 

[Purple]

The theory isn't just a theory, that's a natural habit dude. These are new players, and assuming their new to the scum game, the idea of them distancing themselves like this makes perfect sense from a scum perspective >: (

 

[th3kuzinator]

Show me where you said no to delvro

<_<

But here is the thing. Although you have both been playing scummy, we will gain more info off your flip than Delvro's. Delvro has not said much and has not left us much to work with except a theory of yours. Plus, just because you finally gave three scum picks, you are still very very scummy and I have made my decision on the topic. I cannot fully trust your reads. If we hypothetically misylnched Delvro because of your "case" we would move into D3 with two mislynches and a scum read on you so large that it would be very difficult to sway it off. If you are scum, this is less detrimental, but if town that next mislynch will cost us the game. Even if Delvro were to flip scum, we would only have your plan to work off of (which is shoddy at best <_<) while the scumRoxy scumClown wifom would just distract us.

This entire paragraph lol

Roxy > Delvro. We will not get enough info out of a Delvro flip at this point and leaving both Roxy and Clownbot alive will be WIFOM city tomorrow. We need one of em's flip. At the current moment I am comfortable with Roxy and don't plan to switch over to Clown unless Axel's content is spectacular.

and this

 

[Purple]

The reason I'm attacking Delvro is because people are saying it's between me and Roxy/Delvro (or at least I've read people saying this). They are all even when it comes to scumminess to me, Generally speaking Dourin would be the best choice considering July is pressed to lynch him. -_-; if i have three scumpicks and all of them I want dead, why would it matter which I choose?

 

[Purple]

Oh, that doesn't make much sense to me, that's pulling away from lynches just because they don't talk.

So what? I should just -not- talk ever and try to get reads because that makes me less likely to die?

cool.

:|.

There -are- things to go off of, you're just going off of things people say, not what things people don't say.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Oh, idk why it matters who you choose out of your three scum picks, maybe its because you say stuff like this.

The reason I'm attacking Delvro is because people are saying it's between me and Roxy/Delvro

You just made posts on why Axel was scum and why Dourin was scum, yet do not heavily tie that into Delvro. Now, instead of going after the people you actually though were scummy, you went after Delvro because "people are saying it's between me and Roxy/Delvro." Goddam Roxy. Lets not push for the people I think are scum and have commented on, but lets just go for the guy that is most likely next in line if people don't choose me. 100% self-preservation and it shows that you don't truly believe in your other scum picks enough to go after them. Just because I said I will only be content with you or Clownbot toDay does not mean someone else wont take your points and possibly follow you. Yet it seems you have already given up.

You attack them (Dourin & Axel), then, after feeling you have scum-hunted enough, go with another crowd favorite to save yourself from being lynched.

My vote stays.

 

[Purple]

I do tie that into Delvro dude, The axel post was practically BASED on Delvro and Axel's seperation dude; are you serious?