Q&A Captain Falcon FAQ and Training Guide

[mers]

"how to smash DI out of waveshines"
Which direction?

I believe they can catch you even with full away DI and full away smash DI. I think its all about throwing them off. I like DIing the first shine as far away as I can, then holding down and hoping they overshoot the next one. That probly wouldnt work on a more experienced player though, so full away + smash DI might be more likely to make them mess up.

 

[killmaster]

list of stages really help me thanks a lot !!

 

[Republican0fHeaven]

How do falcons typically setup knees for JIggs other than grab combos???

 

[4 Aces]

My friend wants to start learning Falcon. Do you guys know a good guide and/or video to put him on the right path?

 

[Faithkeeper]

My friend wants to start learning Falcon. Do you guys know a good guide and/or video to put him on the right path?

Does he have competitive melee experience or is he new to that as well?

 

[4 Aces]

Does he have competitive melee experience or is he new to that as well?

He's relatively new; he knows what wavedashing and shffl'ing, double-stick DI and all that is. He's known it for a while and sorta understands some concept, but he can't really apply it that well. If at all.

As for opponents, mostly casual players and me. I am pretty experienced with AT's (like 4-5 years now), but I have never been to a tourney, so not the same kind of competitive that you're thinking.

I think he needs a crutch to lean on; some kind of bread and butter (combos) to start off with. Some do's and don'ts or rules of thumbs, if you will.

 

[Faithkeeper]

He's relatively new; he knows what wavedashing and shffl'ing, double-stick DI and all that is. He's known it for a while and sorta understands some concept, but he can't really apply it that well. If at all.

As for opponents, mostly casual players and me. I am pretty experienced with AT's (like 4-5 years now), but I have never been to a tourney, so not the same kind of competitive that you're thinking.

mmk.


I don't know that there is a real guide that will go through all this, but I'll give a quick starter.


Well, shuffling is definitely where he should start. It is super important as falcon. If he understands how to do it, it is really just about drilling the muscle memory until he has it down. It's not much fun, but it pays huge dividends. If he's having trouble with that have him check out Wak's how to play vids, they are very good. Then maybe learning how to dash dance correctly, you could show him vids of just about any top falcon and they'll be doing it. I've always admired Hax's dash dancing, but that could just be personal preference. Wavedashing can also be good, especially out of shield.

Idk, I'm not the best one to say these things, as I'm a pretty bad falcon, but definitely shuffling first.

 

[4 Aces]

mmk.


I don't know that there is a real guide that will go through all this, but I'll give a quick starter.


Well, shuffling is definitely where he should start. It is super important as falcon. If he understands how to do it, it is really just about drilling the muscle memory until he has it down. It's not much fun, but it pays huge dividends. If he's having trouble with that have him check out Wak's how to play vids, they are very good. Then maybe learning how to dash dance correctly, you could show him vids of just about any top falcon and they'll be doing it. I've always admired Hax's dash dancing, but that could just be personal preference. Wavedashing can also be good, especially out of shield.

Idk, I'm not the best one to say these things, as I'm a pretty bad falcon, but definitely shuffling first.

Thanks. I've been thinking and telling him the same things. I'm guessing Wavedashing would be a good bit after shffl'ing, and dash dancing?

IMO, the biggest thing with him is that he's unwilling to practice it by himself in training mode/vs level one cpu's. Understandable since it can be boring and time-taxing. Do you think it's applicable to train him in real matches?

Also, he wanted to learn some basic combos with Falcon. Is there any guide videos on that?

 

[Faithkeeper]

Thanks. I've been thinking and telling him the same things. I'm guessing Wavedashing would be a good bit after shffl'ing, and dash dancing?

I don't have enough retrospect to really see which should be when, but I'd say if you were to learn them in order of importance, that'd probably be the order.

IMO, the biggest thing with him is that he's unwilling to practice it by himself in training mode/vs level one cpu's. Understandable since it can be boring and time-taxing. Do you think it's applicable to train him in real matches?

Not really. you can train him in how to apply techniques, but it would be way way way easier for him to just sit down for two hours and work on shuffling. then sit down for 30 mins for DDing and maybe another hour or so for wavedashing. I think that would give him a much better base to improve on. I suppose learning all that in-match is technically possible, but needlessly difficult.

Also, he wanted to learn some basic combos with Falcon. Is there any guide videos on that?

Most basic falcon combos will require shuffling. Falcon can do a lot with tech chasing, but that isn't very easy to learn imo. I guess combos involving raptor boost would be easiest, but raptor boost is generally an unsafe move. Try watching some combo vids to get a idea what falcon's combos look like and then try to find some you think you could do. A lot of his combos are based on reading DI (or techs) on the fly though.

 

[4 Aces]

I don't have enough retrospect to really see which should be when, but I'd say if you were to learn them in order of importance, that'd probably be the order.


Not really. you can train him in how to apply techniques, but it would be way way way easier for him to just sit down for two hours and work on shuffling. then sit down for 30 mins for DDing and maybe another hour or so for wavedashing. I think that would give him a much better base to improve on. I suppose learning all that in-match is technically possible, but needlessly difficult.

Most basic falcon combos will require shuffling. Falcon can do a lot with tech chasing, but that isn't very easy to learn imo. I guess combos involving raptor boost would be easiest, but raptor boost is generally an unsafe move. Try watching some combo vids to get a idea what falcon's combos look like and then try to find some you think you could do. A lot of his combos are based on reading DI (or techs) on the fly though.

Yeah, I thought so too about the "Practice on your own" thing. Thanks for the tips. I'm gonna see if these will help him.

 

[Bamesy]

Falcon taught me how to SFFL...
Luigi doesn't jump much, he's ****ed up. :/

Everybody should play Falcon.

 

[4 Aces]

Falcon taught me how to SFFL...
Luigi doesn't jump much, he's ****ed up. :/

Everybody should play Falcon.

I tried picking up Falcon once. But I didn't try hard enough. Mostly just spammed nairs, fairs, and dairs all dai.

 

[Bamesy]

What else do you need? o.O
Gentleman for extra $ would be good I guess.
And grabs for Visa points.

 

[4 Aces]

I kneed to watch more Falcon vids. lol Would Scar Jumping win me the lottery?

 

[Bamesy]

Not even close, it's just a bit better than Dropzone, a little worse than Quadripple Knee.

Lottery would be... blowing everyones mind...at once.
It happens often as Falcons know, but ALL AT ONCE has yet to happen. (Falcon ditto tournament with SS, Scar, Hax and Darkrain was the closest ever, with a total of 1 Billion minds blown in seccession)

 

[Scar]

dawg yesterday i did run-off bair to walljump knee COMBO vs a peach

****IN ****

powerball son

 

[Bamesy]

dayummmmmmm....
Sexy

Everything is sexy with Falcon it seems.

 

[xXx-NoobKing-xXx]

Yesterday I attended an AA meeting...

 

[Bamesy]

GOOD **** ADAM BROWN!!!
You own it too?

 

[4 Aces]

Not even close, it's just a bit better than Dropzone, a little worse than Quadripple Knee.

Lottery would be... blowing everyones mind...at once.
It happens often as Falcons know, but ALL AT ONCE has yet to happen. (Falcon ditto tournament with SS, Scar, Hax and Darkrain was the closest ever, with a total of 1 Billion minds blown in seccession)

**** son...I gotta step up my game.

 

[DuckPimp]

powerball son

i kind of have to start saying this

 

[BSeeD]

dude, nice start guide ty.

What about the training part?

 

[Wschl]

yeah scar go for it u had enough time

 

[Windrose]

When is this thread going to be finished =( I could really use that training regimen and the completed matchup list.

 

[JonnyW]

When is this thread going to be finished =( I could really use that training regimen and the completed matchup list.

There are soooo many unfinished threads

 

[Pi]

how come when i upair people they don't get knee'd afterwards

 

[ETWIST51294]

Because Samus sucks.

 

[A New England Winter]

I was wondering about some safe ways to apply pressure on a more defensive opponent. Normally when I play someone I like to move around a lot to try and confuse their approach, but on people who don't like to come at me I'm kinda stuck. What are some good ways to force an opponent to make an offensive decision while still keeping myself safe (ie baiting)?

 

[ETWIST51294]

DD. DD is the best at that.

 

[Mokumo]

empty short hops are good too

 

[Kanelol]

pivot jabs

 

[reactor]

How do you get good with captain falcon? I don't know how you are able to win with him. I think fox is much better, and I stink with fox.

 

[_Rocky_]

How do you get good with captain falcon? I don't know how you are able to win with him. I think fox is much better, and I stink with fox.

feeling comfortable with the character is a pretty big factor in winning with anyone

 

[Twinkles]

Anyone got any on-hand combos? I know most combos are pure situation and adaptation, but I'm wondering there are any small ones that you can just throw out when you feel necessary.

 

[Walt]

a lot of uairs. anything into grab. wisdom.

 

[ryankam10]

Anyone got any on-hand combos? I know most combos are pure situation and adaptation, but I'm wondering there are any small ones that you can just throw out when you feel necessary.

lots of guaranteed combos against fox if they DI an upthrow in
for example
uthrow => forward or downsmash
uthrow => dtilt =>forward/downsmash/knee/any other finisher
uthrow => dtilt => dtilt again => or grab

basically you have lots of guaranteed hits if they DI an upthrow in

 

[Wizzrobe]

Thanks this is very helpful.

 

[AceDudeyeah]

Anyone recognize the falcon in this combo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63j_b-5GQgQ#t=6m23s

So dirrtyy

 

[BigD!!!]

seems chilean

edit: ghost, from arica, chile

just asked him, he said yeah

 

[0Room]

Ghost is one of my favorite smashers ever
Give him a shoutout for me