Can't Let you cut me Sakurai, Wolf for DLC

[StormC]

As the article says, Wario was the next in line, actually.

Which makes sense to me. In my mind, Wario, Diddy and Dedede are the biggest characters in terms of missing inclusions.

Arguably Banjo-Kazooie too, but y'know.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

So I made some minor changes (I had nothing to do today so I felt like fixing some things)

EDIT: Just fixed tail

You got a Twitter I can tag?

 

[SuperNintendoKid]

I started to play brawl and my first reaction to how different the controls were (warning pic is seziure inducing)

Spoiler

and now i know what i want changed with Wolf:

• fix animations for throws, they look unfinished
  
• Make Wolf Flash not ledge snap when its above the ledge
  
• make the blaster a bit more powerful instead of doing 6%
• allow him to crawl
• have Nair connect better
• I hope they remember to get rid of Wolf's detachable arm
  
• this is a complaint for a few characters, when making a new idle animation that's taken off of an already existing model, get rid of the old animation completely. If you don't know what I mean, for a split second Wolf does Fox's idle animation in SSBB, this also applies to Sheik and Yoshi and other characters who take the base model off already existing characters in ssb4, prime example is when picking up small items.
  here a list of them:
  Yoshi
  Sheik
  Dr. Mario
  Lucas
  Roy
  
• make F-tilt a shield breaker like Ryu's (i'm really not sure on this one)

 

[Tino]

It felt weird playing Brawl again after Sm4sh came out, especially when I couldn't figure out the controls with the Classic Controller, but I had to do it for Wolf. I would do it again if I want to.

 

[candyissweet]

Wolf's neon purple attacks are going to look soooo colorful on the WiiU. XD

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

Wolf's neon purple attacks are going to look soooo colorful on the WiiU. XD

I do hope they'll keep them as just purple though, maybe a little blue in there too. Fox's effects are honestly a visual mess that completely clash with each other, Falco's a little better though.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

@ RadR99

Check out this super awesome HD-ified Wolf Model! Shout outs to @Smashboards user RadR99 for his awesome work! pic.twitter.com/1XVHvmfUCF

— WOLF IS FREE (@Wolf_SSB) July 11, 2015

 

[shane3x]

To Mr Im trolling and havent been banned yet. The point of highlighting Doctor Mario is that if someone as nonsense as him can come back after like a decade then Wolf has a much greater chance of coming back.

There's no hard evidence that Dedede was ever on the table in Melee.

http://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/04/13/the-definitive-unused-fighters-list-in-smash/

I'm pretty sure Sakurai has wanted Dedede along with Melee in since 64, its on one of the smash wiki's

 

[StormC]

I'm pretty sure Sakurai has wanted Dedede along with Melee in since 64, its on one of the smash wiki's

Everything I linked in that article is valid and sourced. Smash wikis aren't valid sources.

The article mentions that he wanted Dedede in 64, but there's no evidence that was the case for Melee.

 

[CannonStreak]

Man, it is quite boring waiting for the next Nintendo Direct, though I am sure you all feel the same way. If you all don't mind, I'd like to share how I feel about waiting for the next Direct in the form of a video.

 

[Skyfox2000]

I think it would be so ignorant not to include Wolf in Super Smash Brothers! He's the main villain of the Star Fox series cutting him is stupid. #FreeWolf

 

[shane3x]

Everything I linked in that article is valid and sourced. Smash wikis aren't valid sources.

The article mentions that he wanted Dedede in 64, but there's no evidence that was the case for Melee.

While there might not be any evidence for it since we know he was at least in mind for 64 and then included in Brawl does suggest he probably was at some point. He did make the Kirby series so its unlikely the thought didnt cross his mind even if it didnt say so publicly.

I think it would be so ignorant not to include Wolf in Super Smash Brothers! He's the main villain of the Star Fox series cutting him is stupid. #FreeWolf

For the purposes of Smash he is the Villian Rep among other roles, although he isn't really the Main Villian of the series overall.

 

[Chico2099]

To Mr Im trolling and havent been banned yet. The point of highlighting Doctor Mario is that if someone as nonsense as him can come back after like a decade then Wolf has a much greater chance of coming back.



I'm pretty sure Sakurai has wanted Dedede along with Melee in since 64, its on one of the smash wiki's

and dark pit?

 

[PurpleSoda]

I started to play brawl and my first reaction to how different the controls were (warning pic is seziure inducing)

Spoiler

and now i know what i want changed with Wolf:

• fix animations for throws, they look unfinished
  
• Make Wolf Flash not ledge snap when its above the ledge
  
• make the blaster a bit more powerful instead of doing 6%
• allow him to crawl
• have Nair connect better
• I hope they remember to get rid of Wolf's detachable arm
  
• this is a complaint for a few characters, when making a new idle animation that's taken off of an already existing model, get rid of the old animation completely. If you don't know what I mean, for a split second Wolf does Fox's idle animation in SSBB, this also applies to Sheik and Yoshi and other characters who take the base model off already existing characters in ssb4, prime example is when picking up small items.
  here a list of them:
  Yoshi
  Sheik
  Dr. Mario
  Lucas
  Roy
  
• make F-tilt a shield breaker like Ryu's (i'm really not sure on this one)

Make Side-B meteor smash

and dark pit?

He is an actual clone,literally

 

[shane3x]

and dark pit?

If characters designed as skins can rise up the rank because of minute differences in properties...

 

[Tino]

Man, it is quite boring waiting for the next Nintendo Direct, though I am sure you all feel the same way. If you all don't mind, I'd like to share how I feel about waiting for the next Direct in the form of a video.

I'm a patient man. Besides, I've got a lot of **** to keep me busy between now and the next Direct.
I feel ya, though.

 

[shane3x]

Some new "vote for X" thread:

http://smashboards.com/threads/top-10-most-wanted-characters-for-dlc-in-smash-4.398956/

If you haven't posted in here with Wolf as your #1 pick do so already. Feel free to copy/paste my sig if you can't be bothered typing reasons.

 

[RadR99]

You got a Twitter I can tag?

Yeah, It's MoonMedic99.
EDIT: Don't worry about tagging me, I rarely use my twitter anyway.

 

[SuperNintendoKid]

Make Side-B meteor smash

He is an actual clone,literally

you do know it does meteor smash.

 

[POKEMANSPIKA]

Some new "vote for X" thread:

http://smashboards.com/threads/top-10-most-wanted-characters-for-dlc-in-smash-4.398956/

If you haven't posted in here with Wolf as your #1 pick do so already. Feel free to copy/paste my sig if you can't be bothered typing reasons.

This thread isn't new...

You can't tell me who to make my number 1 pick. Wolf is like my ninth mainly because he's probably coming back anyway.

 

[shane3x]

This thread isn't new...

You can't tell me who to make my number 1 pick. Wolf is like my ninth mainly because he's probably coming back anyway.

Bit much to the end but fair enough on the age, havent seen it on the front page in a while.

you do know it does meteor smash.

 

[themasterofcircuits]

Me at Gamestop the other day:

Employee: Are you interested in preordering Star Fox Zero of Xenoblade Chronicles X?

Me: If I preorder Star Fox do I get free Wolf DLC for Smash Bros?

Employee: I don't think Wolf is coming back.

Me: ...

Eh, it was worth a try xDD

 

[StormC]

Employee: I don't think Wolf is coming back.

Harsh.

 

[themasterofcircuits]

Harsh.

Haters gonna hate, I suppose.

 

[Sakuraichu]

You guys might know this already, but...

#

You can sorta see Wolf on this box art.
Wolf confirmed.

 

[shane3x]

You guys might know this already, but...

#

You can sorta see Wolf on this box art.
Wolf confirmed.

Wolf's already been confirmed to come back by Platinum and you also see him in some of the footage from E3, well his ship and the W letter anyway havent seen any of him directly yet.

 

[SuperNintendoKid]

I think you might've thought that I said I don't know, but i do know that it meteor smashes.

 

[SimonBarSinister]

I started to play brawl and my first reaction to how different the controls were (warning pic is seziure inducing)

Spoiler

and now i know what i want changed with Wolf:

• fix animations for throws, they look unfinished
  
• Make Wolf Flash not ledge snap when its above the ledge
  
• make the blaster a bit more powerful instead of doing 6%
• allow him to crawl
• have Nair connect better
• I hope they remember to get rid of Wolf's detachable arm
  
• this is a complaint for a few characters, when making a new idle animation that's taken off of an already existing model, get rid of the old animation completely. If you don't know what I mean, for a split second Wolf does Fox's idle animation in SSBB, this also applies to Sheik and Yoshi and other characters who take the base model off already existing characters in ssb4, prime example is when picking up small items.
  here a list of them:
  Yoshi
  Sheik
  Dr. Mario
  Lucas
  Roy
  
• make F-tilt a shield breaker like Ryu's (i'm really not sure on this one)

A few points:

• Wolf's throw animations look unfinished? You need to explain this one a bit, because they looked very polished. At least my memory is telling me so.
• I don't know if Wolf crawling is really warranted, but ok.
• His Nair should be changed entirely, to something along the lines of Falco.
• I don't remember seeing anything like Wolf having Fox's idle animations, but I never really took the time to examine it.
• Eh, I like his current Ftilt. Not saying it can't have that change, though. Any slight buffs are welcome.

In his current form, Wolf is pretty much good to go. Just a few slight modifications are needed and he'll be ready to make the transition to Smash 4.

 

[PushDustIn]

To Mr Im trolling and havent been banned yet. The point of highlighting Doctor Mario is that if someone as nonsense as him can come back after like a decade then Wolf has a much greater chance of coming back.



I'm pretty sure Sakurai has wanted Dedede along with Melee in since 64, its on one of the smash wiki's

They are sourcing a post that was BS. I tracked down and talked to the source of that information, and they told me it's not true. There's no direct proof that he was strongly considered or planned. It would make sense, but Sakurai's never said it AFAIK.

 

[shane3x]

I think you might've thought that I said I don't know, but i do know that it meteor smashes.

I know, just reinforcing what was stated. I can read.

 

[PurpleSoda]

@ SuperNintendoKid @ shane3x
Oh it does,I havent played Brawl/Project M in a while

 

[shane3x]

@ SuperNintendoKid @ shane3x
Oh it does,I havent played Brawl/Project M in a while

I assume Smash 4 Wolf Flash will no longer make Wolf helpless after which would improive his recovery and being able to attempt to use it for MS and other potential uses.

Does Fox go into helpless using Wolf Flash Custom or no? If not wouldnt see any reason why Wolf's would when he comes back.

 

[swordofacorn]

I assume Smash 4 Wolf Flash will no longer make Wolf helpless after which would improive his recovery and being able to attempt to use it for MS and other potential uses.

Does Fox go into helpless using Wolf Flash Custom or no? If not wouldnt see any reason why Wolf's would when he comes back.

Did fox and Falco's side Bs leave them helpless in brawl? Fox's wolf flash leaves you helpless for about half a second and than you can do whatever you want (Airiels and specials) besides another wolf flash.

 

[themasterofcircuits]

Did fox and Falco's side Bs leave them helpless in brawl? Fox's wolf flash leaves you helpless for about half a second and than you can do whatever you want (Airiels and specials) besides another wolf flash.

Yup. Fox Illusion and Falco Phantasm caused helplessness in Brawl.

 

[Sakuraichu]

This was too funny.

 

[Dragoncharystary]

Me at Gamestop the other day:

Employee: Are you interested in preordering Star Fox Zero of Xenoblade Chronicles X?

Me: If I preorder Star Fox do I get free Wolf DLC for Smash Bros?

Employee: I don't think Wolf is coming back.

Me: ...

Eh, it was worth a try xDD

An employee at gamestop literally said this?

 

[SuperNintendoKid]

A few points:

• Wolf's throw animations look unfinished? You need to explain this one a bit, because they looked very polished. At least my memory is telling me so.
• I don't know if Wolf crawling is really warranted, but ok.
• His Nair should be changed entirely, to something along the lines of Falco.
• I don't remember seeing anything like Wolf having Fox's idle animations, but I never really took the time to examine it.
• Eh, I like his current Ftilt. Not saying it can't have that change, though. Any slight buffs are welcome.

In his current form, Wolf is pretty much good to go. Just a few slight modifications are needed and he'll be ready to make the transition to Smash 4.

Some thing about Wolf's throws, once he's done a throw he just snaps back to his idle animation, looks really bad, he laso seems to defy gravity a bit too much (the F- throw is the only one that looks okay).

Also yes his idle animation is Fox's for a second, a way to tell this is by ducking in rapid succesion or landing after jumping and you'll see what i mean.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Some thing about Wolf's throws, once he's done a throw he just snaps back to his idle animation, looks really bad, he laso seems to defy gravity a bit too much (the F- throw is the only one that looks okay).

Also yes his idle animation is Fox's for a second, a way to tell this is by ducking in rapid succesion or landing after jumping and you'll see what i mean.

He was the last character that got made iirc. Makes sense really

 

[themasterofcircuits]

An employee at gamestop literally said this?

Yup. When I was checking out.

It was more like "I don't think Wolf is coming back to be honest". But still..

 

[MeleeMario64]

Employee: I don't think Wolf is coming back.

No.
They are wrong and should feel bad.
One day at Six Flags and all this happens.