Can't Let you cut me Sakurai, Wolf for DLC

[Frostwraith]

My two cents: Melee was in 2001, Smash 4 in 2014. People change in years, Sakurai and none of us are any exception.

Remember that Melee's roster was half of Smash 4's roster, so better focus in variety was more important back then, given the more limited number of characters.

What people fail to grasp is that Dark Pit, along with the other two clones, were already fully functional in the game, albeit as aesthetic differences rather than having slight moveset differences. They're less clones, but more like glorified costumes.

Whereas in Melee, the clones were added with a bit more premeditation (given they had to make new models), in Smash 4, they seem more of a side thing that was thrown in as a bonus. Both are last minute additions made late into development, but the clones in Melee and the clones in Smash 4 are result of different situations.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

These guys are clones of already existing characters that were guaranteed to be in the game. They also took little developing time. So why do people think they replaced cut veterans and newcomers alike? Toon Link is a clone...ish... and I don't see anyone hating on him. Honestly I think people needed a scapegoat, and being new clones, Dark Pit, Lucina, and Dr. Mario (I know he isn't new) were the perfect and undeserving scapegoats.

 

[Mike Voss-Trikstar]

Well, honestly I think that some clones only deserve to be costumes (EX: Lucina, Dark Pit, Pichu, Lucas(this would open more opportunities such as Chrom and Ninten) but others are too different in their fighting styles and bone structure to be costumes(EX: Toon Link, Falco, Roy and Dr. Mario because of their fire and pills) And although Ganondorf's moveset fits him well, it's about time they create a unique one for him.

 

[AlphaSSB]

[quote="And although Ganondorf's moveset fits him well, it's about time they create a unique one for him.[/quote]

I don't think that Sakurai would do that because they'd probably feel like they'd be alienating current Ganondorf players. If they changed it from Melee to Brawl, it'd probably be a lot more understandable, but after three installments with current Ganondorf, they wouldn't. I like him how he is, although it would've been cool if he were unique from the start.

 

[Mike Voss-Trikstar]

[quote="And although Ganondorf's moveset fits him well, it's about time they create a unique one for him.

I don't think that Sakurai would do that because they'd probably feel like they'd be alienating current Ganondorf players. If they changed it from Melee to Brawl, it'd probably be a lot more understandable, but after three installments with current Ganondorf, they wouldn't. I like him how he is, although it would've been cool if he were unique from the start.[/quote]

They could put in Black Shadow or Blood Falcon, and give him Ganondorf's current moveset. Then they could make him a new one. It would make more sense.

Also, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that I am a Ganondorf player as well.

 

[CannonStreak]

You know, it is nice that we are getting Mewtwo soon, but it would be really nice if Sakurai would say something now about whether or not there will be more DLC, even if what he says is rather small. The wait for any more news is killing me. Plus, it has made things boring lately.

 

[AlphaSSB]

To think that Melee's roster could have been this if Sakurai went against clones.

 

[Megadoomer]

As far as Ganondorf goes, I feel like even changing his default neutral special to Warlock Blade would go a long way. I get that they don't want to alienate the people who play as Ganondorf, but would it kill them to give him a sword and make it so his neutral B attack isn't almost exactly the same as Captain Falcon's?

 

[Wintropy]

To be fair, I think if players can distinguish Pit and Dark Pit on 3DS, they probably could distinguish Fox and Wolf on an early 2000's TV.

Oh, I'm sure they could.

I was playing devil's advocate in an effort to approximate Sakurai's thought process.

To think that Melee's roster could have been this if Sakurai went against clones.

That's either terrifyingly endearing or endearingly terrifying, and I can't tell which it is.

Being honest, I would be okay with this roster. I'd miss Doc, of course, but I'm sure Dedede would rise to fill the Mario-shaped hole in my heart.

That render looks perfect for the game.

dededelee~

 

[Mike Voss-Trikstar]

Oh, I'm sure they could.

I was playing devil's advocate in an effort to approximate Sakurai's thought process.



That's either terrifyingly endearing or endearingly terrifying, and I can't tell which it is.

Being honest, I would be okay with this roster. I'd miss Doc, of course, but I'm sure Dedede would rise to fill the Mario-shaped hole in my heart.

That render looks perfect for the game.

dededelee~

But, my Boy...

 

[Mellos]

You know, it is nice that we are getting Mewtwo soon, but it would be really nice if Sakurai would say something now about whether or not there will be more DLC, even if what he says is rather small. The wait for any more news is killing me. Plus, it has made things boring lately.

I guess Sakurai and Nintendo are waiting for the Mewtwo sale feedback, to see if there is enough demand to go through the struggle makeing more DlC chars.

Better chances for more DLC with every purchased Mewtwo
I guess

 

[CannonStreak]

I guess Sakurai and Nintendo are waiting for the Mewtwo sale feedback, to see if there is enough demand to go through the struggle makeing more DlC chars.

Better chances for more DLC with every purchased Mewtwo
I guess

Which is exactly why we must try to get as many people we know as we can to buy the DLC to increase the chances of more DLC happening. Who's with me?

 

[CannonStreak]

I know I could use the edit button, but I felt that it would be better to make a separate post to gain more attention, so I hope you don't mind.

Also, I say we should get other people who do NOT like the Mewtwo DLC to be more constructive and not so whiny, overly negative and man-childish when giving feedback. I have a feeling that negative, rage-filled feedback may discourage Sakurai from making more DLC.

 

[Tino]

Thought I'd like to share this for my fellow Wolf supporters here just for fun.

Rosalina: Wolf...? Are you in there...?
Wolf: I'm heading to Sakurai's. You saw nothing, Rosalina!
Rosalina: Oh...? Is there a reason why you're going over there...?
Wolf: I'm going over there to see if he's going to make me a DLC fighter and I've waited long enough for this! I want answers and I want it now!
Rosalina: I...see. Sakurai did give Mewtwo another opportunity to join us... Surely he will do the same for you...
Wolf: First of all, as touching as that sounds, I don't need your pity! Second of all, you are not to tell anyone about this, or else you will pay!
Rosalina: Don't worry... I will not mention to no one about our encounter between us... You have my word...
Wolf: Good. Glad we have an understanding. Now if you don't mind, I have work to do!
Rosalina: I wish you nothing but the best...and may the stars shine down on you...
Wolf: Hmph!

Not the best I've got, I will say, but it'll have to do.

 

[CannonStreak]

Thought I'd like to share this for my fellow Wolf supporters here just for fun.

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Rosalina: Wolf...? Are you in there...?
Wolf: I'm heading to Sakurai's. You saw nothing, Rosalina!
Rosalina: Oh...? Is there a reason why you're going over there...?
Wolf: I'm going over there to see if he's going to make me a DLC fighter and I've waited long enough for this! I want answers and I want it now!
Rosalina: I...see. Sakurai did give Mewtwo another opportunity to join us... Surely he will do the same for you...
Wolf: First of all, as touching as that sounds, I don't need your pity! Second of all, you are not to tell anyone about this, or else you will pay!
Rosalina: Don't worry... I will not mention to no one about our encounter between us... You have my word...
Wolf: Good. Glad we have an understanding. Now if you don't mind, I have work to do!
Rosalina: I wish you nothing but the best...and may the stars shine down on you...
Wolf: Hmph!

Not the best I've got, I will say, but it'll have to do.

Not bad. I like it.

 

[Mike Voss-Trikstar]

Which is exactly why we must try to get as many people we know as we can to buy the DLC to increase the chances of more DLC happening. Who's with me?

Well, I'm getting it for free... so...

 

[CannonStreak]

Well, I'm getting it for free... so...

So am I. Still, you know anyone else who owns either or both games that you could try to convince into buying the DLC?

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

So am I. Still, you know anyone else who owns either or both games that you could try to convince into buying the DLC?

Nintendo knows that DLC sells well. They will release more DLC, it's just a matter of time.

 

[CannonStreak]

Nintendo knows that DLC sells well. They will release more DLC, it's just a matter of time.

If you say so. But just in case, we should try to get others to buy the DLC anyway. Just saying.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

So am I. Still, you know anyone else who owns either or both games that you could try to convince into buying the DLC?

Getting it for free means you need both versions, that's worth 100 bucks, Nintendo profits either way

 

[CannonStreak]

Getting it for free means you need both versions, that's worth 100 bucks, Nintendo profits either way

I see. So I take it the DLC is part of the profit Nintendo gets here with the both versions thing?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I see. So I take it the DLC is part of the profit Nintendo gets here with the both versions thing?

Mewtwo is likely going to be a total of 5 bucks, 3DS version 45 and Wii U 60, what is more profitable, people getting both versions but free Mewtwo or paying for Mewtwo?

 

[Twin Shot]

I see it happening in packs with Stages, Music, Items and Characters - like they have done with MK8 and Hyrule Warriors.

I know Sakurai whines about DLC and working a lot and such, but if Nintendo passed up on DLC they are missing out on a huge opportunity to make extra money for one of their flagship wii u titles. Don't really see it NOT happening, if anything they could add DLC without Sakurai involved.

Wolf is a no brainer as a DLC character, honestly. If they do more DLC, he will likely get in. They would only have to rework him vs starting from scratch...and the fact that Star Fox Wii U is coming out this year is also a big push. I can see him being released around that time.

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

I'm going to pay for Mewtwo, since I don't currently have a Club Nintendo account I might create one though just so I can get Flipnote studio 3D, since I'm not sure if that will be available to the public. Only then would I do the Mewtwo for free promo.

 

[CannonStreak]

Mewtwo is likely going to be a total of 5 bucks, 3DS version 45 and Wii U 60, what is more profitable, people getting both versions but free Mewtwo or paying for Mewtwo?

The latter, I suppose?

 

[Mike Voss-Trikstar]

So am I. Still, you know anyone else who owns either or both games that you could try to convince into buying the DLC?

@ CannonStreak ,He never said it would be for purchase.

@ Twin Shot , It also costs a lot to make new characters.

 

[Sakuraichu]

@ CannonStreak ,He never said it would be for purchase.

@ Twin Shot , It also costs a lot to make new characters.

Nintendo UK said he would be rereleased on the eShop.

 

[Mike Voss-Trikstar]

Nintendo UK said he would be rereleased on the eShop.

Oops...

@ NonSpecificGuy , Why are you liking everything?

 

[CannonStreak]

Oops...

Yeah, shame on you! Nah, just kidding.

I wonder how much longer it will be before the Mewtwo DLC is released?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

The latter, I suppose?

you are telling me that it's better for Nintendo to have 60/45+5 of our money than 60+45

 

[Wintropy]

Oops...

@ NonSpecificGuy , Why are you liking everything?

It's his thing. :3

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Oops...

@ NonSpecificGuy , Why are you liking everything?

It's his thing. :3

What @ Wintropy said.

Welcome to one of my many domains rookie.

 

[CannonStreak]

you are telling me that it's better for Nintendo to have 60/45+5 of our money than 60+45

I'm sorry, did I make some sort of mistake here?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I'm sorry, did I make some sort of mistake here?

Yes and no, forgot to add 'only one version' on the latter choice

 

[CannonStreak]

Yes and no, forgot to add 'only one version' on the latter choice

If you say so. My bad.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

If you say so. My bad.

Eez akay brah

 

[DoodleDuck97]

Nintendo UK said he would be rereleased on the eShop.

Surely there has to be a shop icon if this is the case.
...........

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Surely there has to be a shop icon if this is the case.
...........

He meant that Mewtwo is available by purchase

 

[DoodleDuck97]

He meant that Mewtwo is available by purchase

Yeah I know but how would you get to said purchase screen.
Through a shop icon.
And my two most wanted to be in said shop is Lucas and Wolf. ( Next to IC who I unsure of at this time)

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Yeah I know but how would you get to said purchase screen.
Through a shop icon.
And my two most wanted to be in said shop is Lucas and Wolf. ( Next to IC who I unsure of at this time)

Wasn't a shop thing found in the 3DS coding?