Can Mario spin Wario around with the cape when he's on his bike?

[qmann28]

I've tried it a few times, but I don't know if I'm just timing it badly or if it can't happen.

 

[Kanzaki]

I've done it a few times.

 

[hippiedude92]

eh I don't remember doing it or not. I know you can do it when he does his upb. It's probably when he jumps off the bike

 

[mario brawler]

In not sure,I think I've done it but I dont remeber wether I caped wario or the bike itself

 

[Mario_ 101]

I think it does. When you do it, it REALLY hurts him when he's recovering.

 

[Oblique]

i Have no idea i just cape him not the bike. I'll do some tests with that.

 

[Popertop]

why would it hurt his recovery?
I can still jump off...

 

[mario brawler]

why would it hurt his recovery?
I can still jump off...

his momentum is already heading in an opposite direction, that + fludd + another cape really messes him up
of course this is all theoretical I dont even know if you can cape his bike in the first place

 

[Popertop]

Does it reverse the direction of my bike jump?
I'm pretty sure once I jump off i'm back in control.

And I still have Waft.
Plus, if I'm Wario, I won't let myself be put into a position to be gimped, and will be gimping you.

 

[HeroMystic]

Does it reverse the direction of my bike jump?
I'm pretty sure once I jump off i'm back in control.

It doesn't unless you're about to jump off.

Reversing the bike kills your recovery because you're farther away from the edge. The farther you are, the more danger you're in of not getting back on the edge. Wario's up+b is very easy to gimp, and the waft doesn't always work from what I've seen.

 

[Popertop]

My recovery is so good that I can play around off the edge way more than a Mario could.
And if you keep trying to come out and gimp me then I'm gonna bait you into something deadly.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Yes, you can cape Wario while he's on the bike and it's fairly easy to set up another cape when he jumps off. Because of Wario's aerial mobility, it basically becomes a battle for the edge if you decide to go off the stage to try to gimp him. Either way, in this situation, someone's usually going to wind up dead.

 

[mario brawler]

play around the edge maro than mario!? your up-B has no vertical distance ,you most likely would've used your bike already and the waft is situiational
im not saying mario could be any better but I don't think wario outranks him either

 

[boss8]

yes................

 

[mario brawler]

?_? 10char

 

[Gringleman]

his momentum is already heading in an opposite direction, that + fludd + another cape really messes him up
of course this is all theoretical I dont even know if you can cape his bike in the first place

I don't think a simple cape can really mess up Wario's "momentum" because Wario's DI is just way too good.

 

[Matador]

I don't think a simple cape can really mess up Wario's "momentum" because Wario's DI is just way too good.

That's what's so good about the cape. The better your opponent's aerial mobility, the better the cape works. It reverses their speed and direction at whatever speed and direction they're going when they're hit. That's why it's so terrible for characters like Wario and Yoshi.

Still, their DI makes up for most of it. It certainly doesn't make the cape less useful against them, however.