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Breaking the Ice - Ice Climbers DLC Discussion Thread - Under New Ownership!

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I'm so mad. I just had this amazing dream...

There was this special Nintendo Direct called "Final Smash DLC Special". Iwata appears (:cry:) and says that more alternate customes are coming, two DLC stages: Butter Building from Kirby and Fourside from Melee are also coming. He said something very interesting after: all characters were getting secondary movesets. Not custom moves, but brand new movesets. As an example he used Kirby, who got a new moveset based on Needle Kirby, and Rosalina, who got a brand new moveset for her own without using Luma at all. After those two were shown, Iwata said: "And to further showcase what this new feature can do, please take a look at this..."

*Smash logo in fire slashes in black background"

There's a really strong blizzard, the camera zooms and there's a mountain full of snow. Then, a pickaxe hits the ground and it zooms out to see the Ice Climbers, to the tagline "Ice Climbers Hike In!". We see that they had a slight redesign: their parka is a little bit looser in the head and not as tight as before, Nana is wearing pigtails and Popo has longer hair.

Then, we can see they're being pulled by a rope (tied to who knows where) and that they're struggling because the rope got stuck and can't keep climbing. Then, we see a hand in a white glove appear, when the Ice Climbers look up, it appears to be Mario offering them his help. Popo smiles and gives him his hand, but Nana looks even further, surprised. Then, the camera heads quickly to the top of the mountain, where all the other 52 characters are pulling the rope with their best efforts. After they help the Ice Climbers and help them reach the top, they smile at everyone and some gameplay footage begins. They have the same moveset as Melee and Brawl, but now they can also be chosen individually, with a completely new moveset especially designed for this feature. This is the mandatory option in the 3DS version; they can't fight as a duo in that version. If you chose this option, the announcer would say "Popo" or "Nana" given the case, instead of "Ice Climbers", and they shared their spot on the character selection screen. You would choose them like you would choose male of female Robin.

Then the trailer ends and Iwata says that they'll cost 6$ like Ryu because they include the Summit stage from Brawl with them.

Something funny was that in the trailer, each character had a specific way of pulling the rope when helping Popo and Nana climb to the top. Mewtwo wouldn't even touch the rope: one hand was near the rope emanating a purple aure while his other hand was in his forehead, with eyes closed. Kirby and Jigglypuff were just hanging from the rope and couldn't help pull it because they're too little. Those are the only ones I remember.

It was so cool :'( Then I got a phone call and I woke up -__- But it was nice while it lasted! :)

*Proceeds to vote for the Ice Climbers in the Ballot for the millionth time*
This right here. Vote for Ice Climbers!!
 

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This right here. Vote for Ice Climbers!!
Totally agree. And because I've got EarthBound bias, I'd LOVE for the Fourside stage to return. Never played on it, since I've never played Melee, but I've heard the Fourside remix that played on the stage, which was AMAZING. In the case that it doesn't return, I've made my own version in the stage builder. Other than the lack of obvious things to recreate it fully, it actually functions almost exactly like it did in Melee.
 

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I just re-read my post and realized how many typos I had -__- I guess that's what I get for not having English as my mother tongue, haha.

I want a Direct soon :(
 

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I just re-read my post and realized how many typos I had -__- I guess that's what I get for not having English as my mother tongue, haha.

I want a Direct soon :(
I think we all do. Even if we don't get any Smash Bros. news, I'd just like to get some more information on games like Star Fox Zero, or get some new announcements to be excited about.
 

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I just re-read my post and realized how many typos I had -__- I guess that's what I get for not having English as my mother tongue, haha.

I want a Direct soon :(
Lol, it's alright. I misspell spanish words all the time, yet I can speak it fairly well.

And ya, we need a Direct soon...
 

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Anything related to a Direct would make sense since it's now after the launch of Super Mario Maker. Speaking of, I plan to create an Ice Climber themed level, but I hope there's not too much of a limit to the vertical scrolling. We'll see. I suppose Iwata's passing may still have some lingering impact on the lack of new Nintendo updates. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I only recall Pokémon GO as the only "In loving memory of Satoru Iwata" public piece so far. But I only saw that message on GameXplain's video, not the official one, so I may be wrong about that as well.

It would be nice to get legitimate info. Some of these Smash news articles are laughably bad.
 

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You're telling me...lol. Some of them are just outright horrible!!!
 

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In my headcanons I have one current Smasher, Rosalina, as a big fan of Frozen as one character from that movie, Elsa, looks like Rosalina. If the Climbers were to come back (whether it be this game or the next) I'd also make them Frozen fans. Maybe the Ice Climber-stage can have instrumental versions of songs from Frozen.
 

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While I get the feeling most of this thread's regulars hate the idea of movie chars in smash (I am certainly 1000000000% against it happening myself), someone talking about Elsa in a headcannon of Smash made me wonder: if one movie character absolutely had to become a smash character, what would everyone say?

I'd probably say either Elsa (ice powers could create an interesting character, and ice castle construction could be her final smash similar to the Iceberg), Wall-E (would be cute as hell, could have moves involving malfunctional Axiom robots and EVE, could put opponents inside of him for his grab and pummel with his crushing ability and/or have a command grab utilising said function, could reduce into his box when he ducks, peeking out from over the top edge every second or two, the EVE dance from the movie could be his final smash and could function similar to Lati@s or Kat and Ana) or Po (ok... this is just because it'd be funny as hell to have the Kung Fu Panda fighting... but his final smash could be him bouncing his enemies off of his belly in a one-hit KO, like Critical Hit except off the top, and he could sit on his enemy's face as a command grab in place of his footstool)
 
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While I get the feeling most of this thread's regulars hate the idea of movie chars in smash (I am certainly 1000000000% against it happening myself), someone talking about Elsa in a headcannon of Smash made me wonder: if one movie character absolutely had to become a smash character, what would everyone say?

I'd probably say either Elsa (ice powers could create an interesting character, and ice castle construction could be her final smash similar to the Iceberg), Wall-E (would be cute as hell, could have moves involving malfunctional Axiom robots and EVE, could put opponents inside of him for his grab and pummel with his crushing ability and/or have a command grab utilising said function, could reduce into his box when he ducks, peeking out from over the top edge every second or two, the EVE dance from the movie could be his final smash and could function similar to Lati@s or Kat and Ana) or Po (ok... this is just because it'd be funny as hell to have the Kung Fu Panda fighting... but his final smash could be him bouncing his enemies off of his belly in a one-hit KO, like Critical Hit except off the top, and he could sit on his enemy's face as a command grab in place of his footstool)
Just to get this out of the way: If Elsa got into Smash, I'd be done. No probably/maybe, I wouldn't formally announce my being done on this website; nope I'd just be done. I hate Frozen, perpetually the most overrated movie I've ever seen, and if it got ANY representation in Smash (if Ice Climbers were Frozen fans in Palutena's Guidance's) I'd just nope myself out of the franchise. That B.S. movie is everywhere, and if my one "safe" haven got involved I'd have to find a new one.

If we're talking about what 4th parties are the best fit, I think some can be interesting choices. My bias tells me Finn and/or Jake from Adventure Time, but even I don't want that (but I really do want a stretchy character in the game). Mickey Mouse is probably the go-to, but I think the best choice from Disney would be Darkwing Duck. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles could be fun. Comic book characters could bring us Spiderman, Batman, Wolverine, etc... I think Spiderman is easily the best choice out of them. Or we can go into J Stars and other popular anime like Goku, Naruto, Ichigo, and even Astroboy. Personally I'm not a fan of seeing any of these though(Darkwing Duck is probably my favorite one though), I don't know why but it just seems like too much to deal with.
 

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Of your guys' ideas, I like WALL-E (more robots the better) and Spider Man (favorite super hero).

But if we ever HAD to have a movie/TV character in Smash, we need some Star Wars representation.
 

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I would think that if the 3DS can support a Super Mario Maker stage that NEVER has the same design in any match, it can handle the ICies...

It also said the stage was coming Sept. 30, which may mean we'll be getting more Smash news by then!!!
 
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I would think that if the 3DS can support a Super Mario Maker stage that NEVER has the same design in any match, it can handle the ICies...

It also said the stage was coming Sept. 30, which may mean we'll be getting more Smash news by then!!!
DANG IT YOU BEAT ME TO IT! But yeah, I have feeling we'll get a veteran with it *cough cough*IceClimbersorWolf*cough cough*
 

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DANG IT YOU BEAT ME TO IT! But yeah, I have feeling we'll get a veteran with it *cough cough*IceClimbersorWolf*cough cough*
Ha ha! You're all too slow for me on this thread!!!

Honestly, any Smash news would be great right now. Be it more DLC stages, or characters. This drought has gone on for too long and I'm running out of wet towels (corny EarthBound reference).
 

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Ha ha! You're all too slow for me on this thread!!!

Honestly, any Smash news would be great right now. Be it more DLC stages, or characters. This drought has gone on for too long and I'm running out of wet towels (corny EarthBound reference).
Ha ha! YOU'RE ALL TOO SLOW for me on this thread!!!
 

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Too bad Doc died...

Anyways, now that we have a small bit of DLC again, when will the next Smash themed Direct be? Or will we get more info. in a normal Direct?
 

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I don't think they'll wait THAT long. September/October sounds about right to me. I think they'll have a Direct before or when the Smash Ballot ends, at the very least. I think they got some more stuff to reveal then just the stage.
 

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Just to get this out of the way: If Elsa got into Smash, I'd be done. No probably/maybe, I wouldn't formally announce my being done on this website; nope I'd just be done. I hate Frozen, perpetually the most overrated movie I've ever seen, and if it got ANY representation in Smash (if Ice Climbers were Frozen fans in Palutena's Guidance's) I'd just nope myself out of the franchise. That B.S. movie is everywhere, and if my one "safe" haven got involved I'd have to find a new one.

If we're talking about what 4th parties are the best fit, I think some can be interesting choices. My bias tells me Finn and/or Jake from Adventure Time, but even I don't want that (but I really do want a stretchy character in the game). Mickey Mouse is probably the go-to, but I think the best choice from Disney would be Darkwing Duck. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles could be fun. Comic book characters could bring us Spiderman, Batman, Wolverine, etc... I think Spiderman is easily the best choice out of them. Or we can go into J Stars and other popular anime like Goku, Naruto, Ichigo, and even Astroboy. Personally I'm not a fan of seeing any of these though(Darkwing Duck is probably my favorite one though), I don't know why but it just seems like too much to deal with.
Agree with you on Frozen except I like it but it isn't the "BESTGREATUNRIVALED" movie it gets made out to be. As to your other suggestions I could see Astroboy but that's about it. And please no Goku DBZ is quite possibly one of the worst animes/franchises to exist even though it was one of the first I saw. It had its time but looking back it wasn't really good and now it is dumb. /putsonflamesuit

@ ROBnWatch ROBnWatch that is great news. Hopefully we get a "chilling" announcement. Also they really need to add more stages. I want IC back and their stage it was fun and unique.
 

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All I need from DLC stages is an ICies stage and Fourside.
 

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All I need from DLC stages is an ICies stage and Fourside.
The DS had some amazing ones. If they just gave us a quick option to disable hazards, then we may not even need added stages although I would want more because it could help certain characters and of course spice up matches.. Seriously though Mega Man's stage would be perfect for a hazards disable button.
 

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Just to get this out of the way: If Elsa got into Smash, I'd be done. No probably/maybe, I wouldn't formally announce my being done on this website; nope I'd just be done. I hate Frozen, perpetually the most overrated movie I've ever seen, and if it got ANY representation in Smash (if Ice Climbers were Frozen fans in Palutena's Guidance's) I'd just nope myself out of the franchise. That B.S. movie is everywhere, and if my one "safe" haven got involved I'd have to find a new one.
I also agree that Frozen is overrated AF. It was just from a thematic standpoint, as she could have an interesting moveset. In hindsight the Ice Queen that she is based off of would be a better fit tho, as it isn't Disney and is actually a character from a traditional story.
 

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I come in here expecting Ice Climbers... And you all are discussing... Movie characters in Smash.

K.
 

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I come in here expecting Ice Climbers... And you all are discussing... Movie characters in Smash.

K.
This keeps coming up. We've covered pretty much anything IC related, so the regulars here aren't going to do much more than interject at this point. If you want to talk IC's, start a topic, I'm sure everyone here will be more than willing to discuss whatever it is you want to discuss, just don't expect 100+ pages of discussion solely be for a character that's already in the game with no hypotheticals left to discuss.
 

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This keeps coming up. We've covered pretty much anything IC related, so the regulars here aren't going to do much more than interject at this point. If you want to talk IC's, start a topic, I'm sure everyone here will be more than willing to discuss whatever it is you want to discuss, just don't expect 100+ pages of discussion solely be for a character that's already in the game with no hypotheticals left to discuss.
Fair enough.

Ice Climbers... What about them do you all love?
 

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Let me answer your question with another question.

What's not to love about them?!?!?!
 

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Fair enough.

Ice Climbers... What about them do you all love?
Personally, I fell in love with their playstyle during that whole EVO 2013 fiasco. Watching Wobbles make that god-like run, and seeing what the IC's were capable of just blew my mind at the time. I'd never thought they were capable of all that when I had been casually playing for 10+ years, so I decided to pick them up. After that, I started playing them a lot in Melee and Brawl. They became the first character that my friend couldn't beat me with, and I think that's how they became so endearing to me. Dthrow chain grab to Fsmash in Brawl with Sopo is just so demoralizing, I love it.

After that, I just started to fall in love with them. I drew pictures, came up with game ideas, and eventually I realized, despite their limited actual appearances, they were my favorite characters. It really hit me when the ESRB leak came out, and the IC's (plus Mewtwo and Wolf) were nowhere to be found. I say "plus Mewtwo and Wolf", because they were my favorite characters before the IC's (yeah that leak hit me hard), and in that moment, even with all the disappointment, all I cared about were the Ice Climbers.

So honestly, I love everything about them, even though it doesn't always make sense. I romanticize the idea of them a bit sure, and I really hope one day they do get a revival, but I think characters this cool:troll: deserve it.

Agree with you on Frozen except I like it but it isn't the "BESTGREATUNRIVALED" movie it gets made out to be. As to your other suggestions I could see Astroboy but that's about it. And please no Goku DBZ is quite possibly one of the worst animes/franchises to exist even though it was one of the first I saw. It had its time but looking back it wasn't really good and now it is dumb. /putsonflamesuit
I didn't hate it when I first saw it. I thought it was poorly written, and the songs were excessive, but the cinematography was god-like, so it had that going for it. Next thing I know, everyone's saying it's better than Tangled (it's ****ing not), and the leader of the new Disney "renaissance". I've just become worn out on it, at first it was just meh, then, because no one would shut up about it, I became infuriated at even the thought. I'm not even going to get into the misplaced symbolism people keep finding in it, the movie just bugs me.

I don't want Goku either, but I actually kinda like DB and DBZ. That being said, I'm not like a hardcore fan of it, and don't see why there's such an obsession with getting them in the game. Their playstyle definitely doesn't fit in the series, and their designs are terrible imo, so I personally don't have any reason to want them.
 
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Before I explain all the reasons why I love the Ice Climbers (because right now I have an essay due tomorrow and need to finish it quickly), I'll say one last thing as a result of the announcements of the SMM stage DLC and Tatsumi Kimishima being appointed as Nintendo's president, I must say: Isn't it great to finally see a significant decline in "My uncle who works at Nintendo" type articles recently?
 

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Before I explain all the reasons why I love the Ice Climbers (because right now I have an essay due tomorrow and need to finish it quickly), I'll say one last thing as a result of the announcements of the SMM stage DLC and Tatsumi Kimishima being appointed as Nintendo's president, I must say: Isn't it great to finally see a significant decline in "My uncle who works at Nintendo" type articles recently?
Honestly I never really minded the rumors. They're fun speculation, something that can bring awareness to a character or a franchise that they never got before. The Rayman "leak" got Japan to learn about him, while the Shovel Knight one may do the same as well, and that only increases their chances in my opinion. The thing I hate is the trend of a rumor popping up, and the creator coming out quickly saying "Yeah I made this. Shower me with your compliments." I was fine with it the first time, but the massive amount of impostors have started to bother me.
 

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More speculation:


Again...please be ICies themed or Fourside! PLEASE BE ICIES THEMED OR FOURSIDE!!!
 
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More speculation:


Again...please be ICies themed or Fourside! PLEASE BE ICIES THEMED OR FOURSIDE!!!
At the 44 second mark of the actual reveal video for the Mario Maker stage, the video goes to a 4 player stage on the 3DS. There's a character on the left who's a smaller version of Link. Now in the same match, there's also a small Mario, so it could be just Link poison mushroomed, but it also could be a sneaky way to reveal Young Link. Note that they did this on the 3DS version, which just so happens to be the only time where they don't show the character icons at the bottom. Coincidence!? Probably, at least I hope so, I freakin' HATE Young Link.
 

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At the 44 second mark of the actual reveal video for the Mario Maker stage, the video goes to a 4 player stage on the 3DS. There's a character on the left who's a smaller version of Link. Now in the same match, there's also a small Mario, so it could be just Link poison mushroomed, but it also could be a sneaky way to reveal Young Link. Note that they did this on the 3DS version, which just so happens to be the only time where they don't show the character icons at the bottom. Coincidence!? Probably, at least I hope so, I freakin' HATE Young Link.
It's definitely just Link. I can see the colors of the Hylian Shield.
 
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