Way to refute my points...
I refuted your points in my earlier post. Way to say the same thing over and over though.
Here, I'll simplify it for you.
Tell me this.
If you take away from something, you must add equal or, more, for it to be the same or greater then it was before, right?
Quantitatively, yes. But that's not what we're talking about here. Wave-dashing and L-cancel are gone, boohoo. You lost a couple game mechanics, and instead of
adapting and playing Brawl for what it is, some Melee vets would rather complain about what they think it's lacking.
Well since Brawl lost all of the noted above and, seemingly nothing was discovered to be added yet, then isn't it foolish to say that Brawl "will" be greater competitively, correct?
Nope, not at all. There is no sufficient evidence to point in either direction, so both viewpoints are completely valid. "We can't wave-dash mindgaems r gone BAAAWWWW!" is not a valid argument. STFU about your lost game mechanics, and develop Brawl's meta-game based on
Brawl's strengths and weaknesses.
That's my point.
The people that say Brawl will be less then Melee competitively have reasons to believe so at this time (one month into the game).
While, the people that say that it will be just as good or, greater have absolutely no reasons to believe so (except a sense of faith) at this time.
That's why this tread is completely wrong. Not only does no one have any reason to believe that Brawl will be more competitive but, there's actually reason to believe in the exact opposite.
No one is right, seeing as how it’s only been one month.
However, the pessimist have more reason to believe in their view as opposed to the optimist.
Hence, where the thread fails.
Get the point now?
As I said above, the pessimists have no more backing their opinions than the optimists.
That doesn't mean it's worth playing. Dead or Alive 4 is competitive AND has online, but people ignore it because there are way better fighters out there.
So many people around here are unwilling to even accept the possibility that Brawl could end up less competitive than Melee.
So many people around here are unwilling to even accept the possibility that Brawl could end up more competitive than Melee. =O
I hear so many morons spouting this crap about how the Melee competitive community is going to be "left behind" and how this new group is going to appear and pick up the reigns of Smash.
If the Melee community is unwilling to accept Brawl, then they
will be left behind. It's that simple, and you're a moron if you don't get it. The Melee vets will not be the only people developing Brawl's meta-game, I don't get what's so hard to understand here.
Guess what, n00bs. It's the experienced Melee vets like Gimpyfish and Ryoko that will shape the competitive Brawl scene.
Out of their great love and devotion to Smash, they will rip the game apart, analyzing every character, every stage and every frame of every attack. They will decide, through their discoveries, how Competitive Brawl turns out, not some overzealous n00bs.
Who is Gimpyfish? Is he a competitive Brawl player? Has he placed high in a lot of tournaments? What about Ryoko? How do these people have any more bearing on Brawl's meta-game than anyone else? Stop being an ***-kisser, it's disgusting. The "overzealous n00bsLOL" will have just as much to do with the new tournament scene, so you've just demonstrated how ignorant you are.
EDIT: I'll leave all the above garbage posted for posterity's sake, but this is the last I'm gonna say on this issue.
You can't tell me that Brawl won't be competitive, based on the
opinions of a bunch of Brawl noobs who happened to play Melee competitively. With a month of play time and no significant tournament experience under their belts, they're no more qualified to tell people how Brawl will be played than anyone else. We don't need advanced techs to play the game, according to what most Melee players will tell you, they're only used to
enhance the mind-game options you have. Take them away and, *gasp*, you'll just have to rely on something else.
Brawl will be competitive, if only because of WiFi. You can make the argument of DoA4, but even that game is played in the WCG, so it kinda destroys your point. Look at Halo vs Halo 2. Halo 1 is the superior game in almost all regards, but MLG still picked up Halo 2 instead. Know why? Because it was more popular, due to it's online component. This thread isn't fail because some people are optimistic over Brawl's future. This thread is fail because some people can't get their heads out of the Melee pro's ***** and accept the future. That is all.