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Brawl Triple Winter Tournament
- Thread starter Zatchiel
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global-wolf
Smash Champion
I don't think the problems would happen outside an established group, and they would only happen in a live tourney. The main problem for most OTL tournies isn't salt, it's people not doing their matches.
That's another thing I mentioned earlier. Everyone that enters should make a serious promise to commit to the tourny. If said person causes the tourny to majorly delay than that person should not only be disqualified but be punished by not being allowed to enter the next few tourneys.
This would ensure that tourneys run smoothly and become popular again.
This would ensure that tourneys run smoothly and become popular again.
global-wolf
Smash Champion
If we can find a way to do that, it'd be great. I'm think of a sort of guidelines for conduct?
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Alberto1866
Smash Journeyman
It was a really close game zmx, I was off stage he went for a fair I saw him going for the recovery and I got to the ledge first so yeah... That's how I won, also I signe up with three characters so I used all three Idc if I won with lucario I didn't wanna win the third match like that...
Did better than you thought huh? ;D
Obv. I know Alberto's progressing fast. I'm the one who helped train his Lucario the most.Did you have high expectations for me? Or are you doubting alberto? He's progressing fast and he won with lucario by strategy and well timed attacks
All the same if my Ike can beat his Lucario (not to mention nearly all of my secondaries/tertiary) and your Ike happens to be >>>>>>>than my Ike, then clearly something's up here if you lost. I guess you aren't used to how he plays then if you legitimately weren't sandbagging.
Either way, that still doesn't explain why he switched after winning. He practically threw away the set victory then. Because I was playing and beating his Pika with my Ike like two days ago so I have no idea what his thought process was. I specifically told him he wouldn't win with Pika and that Luca was his best option lol.
Still don't get why you switched to Pika after winning, especially when I advised you not to and to stick with your main.It was a really close game zmx, I was off stage he went for a fair I saw him going for the recovery and I got to the ledge first so yeah... That's how I won, also I signe up with three characters so I used all three Idc if I won with lucario I didn't wanna win the third match like that...
Did better than you thought huh? ;D
Assuming he wasn't sandbagging (which I'm still not entirely convinced about), you could have very likely taken the set then if you just used nothing but Lucario. It doesn't matter what you sign up as, it doesn't mean you have to use all 3.......
Especially when you knew your sonic/pika is nowhere near as good.
I don't sandbag. He won fairly. But it shouldn't be such a surprise. He won by a hair (no john) as he stated it was just a simple match ask about the details if you'd like. I personally hoped to play his lucario again to help him through his nervous tendencies.
Alberto1866
Smash Journeyman
Come on zmx I was playing not to win but to have fun and hopefully win .-. Besides it's his first time facing my lucario and playing you, you know what to expect from lucario, and either I do try but not determined to win, in this case I was, and believe me I've played him before he didn't sand bag (I hope)
Zatchiel
a little slice of heaven 🍰
zmx, can it not just be preference? He apparently enjoyed the set thoroughly, and having fun is quite feasibly the most important aspect of playing, next to sportsmanship. He also has a chance to redeem himself if he is dissatisfied with his loss of the set; the tourney is double elimination.
So you weren't playing to win but you were playing to win?Come on zmx I was playing not to win but to have fun and hopefully win .-. Besides it's his first time facing my lucario and playing you, you know what to expect from lucario, and either I do try but not determined to win, in this case I was, and believe me I've played him before he didn't sand bag (I hope)
You do try but are not determined to win?
make sense plz
I'm just not following the logic and you've played him as much as I have you'd understand my confusion.zmx, can it not just be preference? He apparently enjoyed the set thoroughly, and having fun is quite feasibly the most important aspect of the playing, next to sportsmanship. He also has a chance to redeem himself if he is dissatisfied with his loss of the set; the tourney is double elimination.
His Lucario>>>>>>than anything else he has.
So game 1: He uses a far worse secondary and loses.
Game 2: Goes lucario, very close game and clutches it out.
Game 3: Decides to revert back to a far worse secondary.
I agree that having fun is the most important thing. What I don't agree with is that you can't have fun, you know, using your best character. If he beat me with Lucario and decided to use troll characters the next two games, I'd be fairly annoyed because I knew I wouldn't have earned the win. I don't know about DTKL.
Winning is never my motive. I've said this many times, I prefer to play with people that are much better than me because I feel I learn the fastest that way.
But this is a tourny, it's supposed to TEST how much you've learned, it's not a wise time to be taking huge risks with crazy experimenting.
Otherwise the whole point of Tourneys is useless as Friendlies already accomplish the above.
So you're saying DTKL, if I faced you in tourny, won convincingly game 1 with snake/falco and then game's 2 and 3 I decided to go exclusively Ganondorf, you'd feel you've earned the set win?
But this is a tourny, it's supposed to TEST how much you've learned, it's not a wise time to be taking huge risks with crazy experimenting.
Otherwise the whole point of Tourneys is useless as Friendlies already accomplish the above.
So you're saying DTKL, if I faced you in tourny, won convincingly game 1 with snake/falco and then game's 2 and 3 I decided to go exclusively Ganondorf, you'd feel you've earned the set win?
Alberto1866
Smash Journeyman
I was playing to have fun and win with having fun being my first priority, and sorry you misunderstood I always try but this time I was determined to win because it's my lucario, my main, my favorite character I can't lose that just wouldn't work for me, I wanted play sonic first to get an idea of his gameplay and I did lucario my main so I can tie it up and I did, I was thinking of going lucario again but I was like hey I don't care if I lose it's my first tournament there will be more so I took a chance and went pikachu and I wasn't doing bad I took his first stock before he took mine but killed me right away and took my second and I sd my third and yeah...
My good sir, I didn't ask if you took them seriously. I explained their purpose as a tool for you to get better (which you agreed with).
Plus there being no prize doesn't make it invalid at all. Are you aware in Japan no prize money is offered in tournys? Yet players still try their best for the fun of it and when analyzing the best Japan players no one says "well they don't offer prize money so let's not consider who places well in them".
And please don't John about not taking it seriously when you already stated you don't sandbag for these are contradictory statements.
Plus there being no prize doesn't make it invalid at all. Are you aware in Japan no prize money is offered in tournys? Yet players still try their best for the fun of it and when analyzing the best Japan players no one says "well they don't offer prize money so let's not consider who places well in them".
And please don't John about not taking it seriously when you already stated you don't sandbag for these are contradictory statements.
Zatchiel
a little slice of heaven 🍰
Having fun with my main online is a rarity, honestly, hence why I seldom rely on Ike when I play, and my discrepant character choice and comprehension. It can be more tedious than you think going one character throughout a whole tourney, zmx, regardless of whether or not you've won with a single character more than the rest. It's inexplicably arduous for me to play constant Ike for many matches, and try to keep my head up while playing. It's tiring and the play feels too monotonous for me.
I answered your question, z. I wouldn't take it seriously thus i wouldn't mind what you do or who you choose. I'm careless about how japan operates i'm not into the offline smash scene i just play brawl cause i enjoy it. I don't sandbag as a of carelessness i play in whatever way or form.
I don't want to come off as a person that disregards the skills of others i play just to either improve myself or others i can't get better and better just from wifi it only gets you so far. So i don't take it seriously. Sandbagging isn't fun at all either it's like being sarcastic.
I can enjoy playing as my main because i never get bored of playing as ike he's fun to play as imo and i don't get tired of it
We're kinda spamming this tourney thread with personal opinions and difference statements. Shouldn't we take this to somewhere else just saiyan.
I don't want to come off as a person that disregards the skills of others i play just to either improve myself or others i can't get better and better just from wifi it only gets you so far. So i don't take it seriously. Sandbagging isn't fun at all either it's like being sarcastic.
I can enjoy playing as my main because i never get bored of playing as ike he's fun to play as imo and i don't get tired of it
We're kinda spamming this tourney thread with personal opinions and difference statements. Shouldn't we take this to somewhere else just saiyan.
Fair enough.
Still kind of baffled how my Ike can beat his Luca when yours is far superior. I didn't think knowing how a particular person plays and their habits mattered that much but I guess I was wrong.
Oh and DTK it's not like you don't have secondaries. Your Diddy and Samus are pretty decent. In fact I think you have done better against his Lucario with them. He hates diddy lol.
ATT: Zatch
You don't need Ike to do well. You can use pretty much anyone at at least mid level (though it's often high level). It's to the point where you can just pick your foes worst MU and go from there. I actually think your Wario might be better than your Ike.
Still kind of baffled how my Ike can beat his Luca when yours is far superior. I didn't think knowing how a particular person plays and their habits mattered that much but I guess I was wrong.
Oh and DTK it's not like you don't have secondaries. Your Diddy and Samus are pretty decent. In fact I think you have done better against his Lucario with them. He hates diddy lol.
ATT: Zatch
You don't need Ike to do well. You can use pretty much anyone at at least mid level (though it's often high level). It's to the point where you can just pick your foes worst MU and go from there. I actually think your Wario might be better than your Ike.
My ike was at it's worst today i've been having a terrible day so my impatient attitude affected my gameplay you've seen how reckless i am when i'm like that, z. I rest there i don't want to litter irrelevant nonsense here.
Zatchiel
a little slice of heaven 🍰
This came to be due to my persistent experimentation and practice, in and out of tourney. Tourneys help to see how you fair against others under precarious circumstances, but that should not irrationalize the thought of variance.
My Wario? Maybe online, but absolutely not when it comes to offline.
My Wario? Maybe online, but absolutely not when it comes to offline.
If you have any no-shows I'd be happy to serve as a replacement :-)Any luck with the remaining matches, guys?
Zatchiel
a little slice of heaven 🍰
I'll give people until Wednesday, but that's the only leniency I'll give. After that, I'll issue DQs accordingly. You can substitute, PJGLZ, I'll PM you on Wednesday if we have any byes that are available to be occupied.
Alrighty. Thanks!I'll give people until Wednesday, but that's the only leniency I'll give. After that, I'll issue DQs accordingly. You can substitute, PJGLZ, I'll PM you on Wednesday if we have any byes that are available to be occupied.
Yazz
Smash Apprentice
my opponent wont respond to me. o.o
global-wolf
Smash Champion
If he doesn't respond by Wednesday, you get to move on to the next round.
Knubs.
ナブ Paquito.
I'll be more than glad to be a replacement too if needed. : D
Zatchiel
a little slice of heaven 🍰
Hectic update completed.
Knubs shall replace Cezz, PJGLZ shall replace timjn. By means of coin-flip, I determined who would advance in winners, between you two. This is procedure to ensure that each bracket side has minimal byes, for optimal circumstances.
Participants who advanced due to inactivity/lack of reply from their opponents: global-wolf and Yazz.
Contemporary bracket(s):
Winner's Bracket
Loser's Bracket:
Deadline for the current round is Wednesday, January 18th. Good luck, everyone!
Now, I can eat.
Knubs shall replace Cezz, PJGLZ shall replace timjn. By means of coin-flip, I determined who would advance in winners, between you two. This is procedure to ensure that each bracket side has minimal byes, for optimal circumstances.
Participants who advanced due to inactivity/lack of reply from their opponents: global-wolf and Yazz.
Contemporary bracket(s):
Winner's Bracket
Loser's Bracket:
Deadline for the current round is Wednesday, January 18th. Good luck, everyone!
Now, I can eat.
Ruinn
Smash Ace
Aw, was just about to register. :/
Zatchiel
a little slice of heaven 🍰
MFZSonic500 appears to be inactive within the range of approaching two weeks. If you'd like to take his place in loser's, I'd be ecstatic to add you. Would love as few byes in the tourney as possible, so if you'd like, feel free to sign up.
Ruinn
Smash Ace
Sure, I'll hope for the best. 
Ruinn/Derek/1935-9362-4057/:dkbrawl:
how do you code the character? :x
Ruinn/Derek/1935-9362-4057/:dkbrawl:
how do you code the character? :x
Zatchiel
a little slice of heaven 🍰
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13919696&postcount=114Sure, I'll hope for the best.
Ruinn/Derek/1935-9362-4057/:Donkey Kong:
Added you. Refer to this post for current brackets and such. Good luck!
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13811890&postcount=1
Refer to this for rules and the likes.
http://www.smashboards.com/misc.php?do=getsmilies&editorid=vB_Editor_001
Here's a list of them all. It isn't mandatory for them to be included in your sign-up, but there's the link for future reference, whenever you may feel the desire to use them.